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Zach Mitchell - Sept 2025 on a season long loan to Hibernian (p22)
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Watching him come through he has usually played at the right hand side of things, or as centre half.
I have a fantasy that he could be a tall rangy deep lying defensive midfielder eventually, a sort of cross between Tydeman and Dobson.
Early days for Zach, the most important thing is he isn’t undermined by overplaying.2 -
be helpful if admin could change the thread title please1
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reminds me of Beilek & Konsa, such a talent
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killerandflash said:In a back 3 you do need a CB who's comfortable on the ball, and can move into midfield, as otherwise you can end up with 3 CBs marking one centre forward.0
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I've been the Secretary of his Fan Club for several seasons....4
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Bit unfortunate that the best place to play him is where we've just brought in a quality RCB. Probably doesn't bode well for REG though if Jones really does decide he likes ZMitchell as the season goes on0
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Into the last year of his contract just like Leaburn and Small. Lots of potential selling on value in those 3. Need all of them signed up and have done all summer.
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Fanny Fanackapan said:I've been the Secretary of his Fan Club for several seasons....
If you have been Secretary I am President, first saw in in The FA Youth Cup against Brighton, along with TC, Kanu & Leaburn and thought he was outstanding.
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Zach is a rounded, intelligent lad. My younger son was sandwiched between him and Billy, in terms of age, at the same private junior school and then grammar school. The former school would have taught him how to hold himself in public because they do that at a very young age there as well as a decent introduction to sport and the latter would have offered him other competitive sports (football is not allowed at the school) such as rugby and hockey, albeit for a very limited period of time given his commitments to CAFC and a good education.
Providing the footballing side of things develops as many of us believe it will, he is a future Charlton captain in the making. Let's not forget this is someone who was skipper of the U21s at the ripe old age of 17. And of course assuming that someone else doesn't come in for him which is why I was so concerned last season at how the loan situation at Colchester was developing especially if his contract with us does end this season. He already said, prior to the friendly against Millwall, how great it would be if one day he was to play with his brother and the last thing we need to do is to invite them to make an offer (or any other club for that matter) especially if we are in no position of strength to turn that down.3 -
Addick Addict said:Zach is a rounded, intelligent lad. My younger son was sandwiched between him and Billy, in terms of age, at the same private junior school and then grammar school. The former school would have taught him how to hold himself in public because they do that at a very young age there as well as a decent introduction to sport and the latter would have offered him other competitive sports (football is not allowed at the school) such as rugby and hockey, albeit for a very limited period of time given his commitments to CAFC and a good education.
Providing the footballing side of things develops as many of us believe it will, he is a future Charlton captain in the making. Let's not forget this is someone who was skipper of the U21s at the ripe old age of 17. And of course assuming that someone else doesn't come in for him which is why I was so concerned last season at how the loan situation at Colchester was developing especially if his contract with us does end this season. He already said, prior to the friendly against Millwall, how great it would be if one day he was to play with his brother and the last thing we need to do is to invite them to make an offer (or any other club for that matter) especially if we are in no position of strength to turn that down.
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Addick Addict said:Zach is a rounded, intelligent lad. My younger son was sandwiched between him and Billy, in terms of age, at the same private junior school and then grammar school. The former school would have taught him how to hold himself in public because they do that at a very young age there as well as a decent introduction to sport and the latter would have offered him other competitive sports (football is not allowed at the school) such as rugby and hockey, albeit for a very limited period of time given his commitments to CAFC and a good education.
Providing the footballing side of things develops as many of us believe it will, he is a future Charlton captain in the making. Let's not forget this is someone who was skipper of the U21s at the ripe old age of 17. And of course assuming that someone else doesn't come in for him which is why I was so concerned last season at how the loan situation at Colchester was developing especially if his contract with us does end this season. He already said, prior to the friendly against Millwall, how great it would be if one day he was to play with his brother and the last thing we need to do is to invite them to make an offer (or any other club for that matter) especially if we are in no position of strength to turn that down.
I wouldn't worry about Millwall, Arsenal were sniffing around last season
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I think I was one if the first (at least a year ago) to tout him as a potential CDM, although I'm not sure NJ sees him there. Can I be first to suggest he might be an excellent CAM with his ability to carry the ball forward at pace.4
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northstandsteve said:Addick Addict said:Zach is a rounded, intelligent lad. My younger son was sandwiched between him and Billy, in terms of age, at the same private junior school and then grammar school. The former school would have taught him how to hold himself in public because they do that at a very young age there as well as a decent introduction to sport and the latter would have offered him other competitive sports (football is not allowed at the school) such as rugby and hockey, albeit for a very limited period of time given his commitments to CAFC and a good education.
Providing the footballing side of things develops as many of us believe it will, he is a future Charlton captain in the making. Let's not forget this is someone who was skipper of the U21s at the ripe old age of 17. And of course assuming that someone else doesn't come in for him which is why I was so concerned last season at how the loan situation at Colchester was developing especially if his contract with us does end this season. He already said, prior to the friendly against Millwall, how great it would be if one day he was to play with his brother and the last thing we need to do is to invite them to make an offer (or any other club for that matter) especially if we are in no position of strength to turn that down.
I wouldn't worry about Millwall, Arsenal were sniffing around last season
Last season he went out on loan, people were saying when he became a victim of the situation he found himself in, that all is good and that we were monitoring the situation and in constant dialogue. So where is that new contract if he is valued as much as we believe he is?3 -
northstandsteve said:Fanny Fanackapan said:I've been the Secretary of his Fan Club for several seasons....
If you have been Secretary I am President, first saw in in The FA Youth Cup against Brighton, along with TC, Kanu & Leaburn and thought he was outstanding.0 -
We need to get Zach on a new contract B4 we play him.1
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https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/sport/i-really-like-him-charlton-athletic-boss-jones-pleased-with-centre-back-prospects-showing/
He is out of contract next summer but the Addicks are thought to be keen to secure him on new terms.Need to get it done soon, before he has a run in the team and before January to avoid and Aribo or Grant situation. I would think players like him with contracts expiring next summer will be the priority after any signings we’re working on.6 -
You have to wonder what a specialist director of football does when reflecting on CBT, Dobson, Leaburn, Small and Mitchell all running contracts down.
That’s before you get to the time wasted on signing useless loan players.
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Valley11 said:You have to wonder what a specialist director of football does when reflecting on CBT, Dobson, Leaburn, Small and Mitchell all running contracts down.
That’s before you get to the time wasted on signing useless loan players.1 -
you have to offer him one first !!!
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stoneroses19 said:Valley11 said:You have to wonder what a specialist director of football does when reflecting on CBT, Dobson, Leaburn, Small and Mitchell all running contracts down.
That’s before you get to the time wasted on signing useless loan players.1 - Sponsored links:
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What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
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killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.2 -
Addick Addict said:killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.1 -
For a young player learning the game, adapting to being out of the team is nearly as important to learn as how to perform when in it.2
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Addick Addict said:killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.
I very much doubt that he would be expecting to get regular games here and if he did then going out on loan instead would have been a very illustrative lesson in where he stands.
By all accounts he seems to have his head firmly screwed on and I'm hopeful that a new deal is/can be discussed as things progress.0 -
Covered_End_Lad said:For a young player learning the game, adapting to being out of the team is nearly as important to learn as how to perform when in it.0
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thenewbie said:Addick Addict said:killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.
I very much doubt that he would be expecting to get regular games here and if he did then going out on loan instead would have been a very illustrative lesson in where he stands.
By all accounts he seems to have his head firmly screwed on and I'm hopeful that a new deal is/can be discussed as things progress.
This I disagree with, each player should be played on his performances, if Zach is performing better than Jones, A.Mitchell, Gillesphy then he should be in the team, but no player should be held back because of his age.
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northstandsteve said:thenewbie said:Addick Addict said:killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.
I very much doubt that he would be expecting to get regular games here and if he did then going out on loan instead would have been a very illustrative lesson in where he stands.
By all accounts he seems to have his head firmly screwed on and I'm hopeful that a new deal is/can be discussed as things progress.
This I disagree with, each player should be played on his performances, if Zach is performing better than Jones, A.Mitchell, Gillesphy then he should be in the team, but no player should be held back because of his age.
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Covered_End_Lad said:Addick Addict said:killerandflash said:What we don't know with the likes of Zach and Miles, is whether the club hasn't done anything yet, or whether talks have been going on for a while already, but the player/agent has turned down the offers (for financial or other reasons).
I said at the time that I really wasn't sure that the best idea was to send Zach on loan for the whole season but let's hope that we haven't compounded that by trying to agree a contract following him being sent into the wilderness of watching from the stands rather than during that period. He hasn't suddenly become the player he is and to have done so would have been a demonstration of our belief in him.
Let's hope that negotiations are well in hand for both and it is just a question of signing on the dotted line.
Cowley took over on 3rd January and the window didn't close for another 4 weeks and it was clear, very early on, that he was signing his own players on loan. Was there any conversation with Cowley about Zach's role for the rest of the season prior to the window closing? If so, why did we not recall him at that point and if we weren't going to use him then send him out somewhere to get game time? Yes being out of the team and fighting for your place is part and parcel of a footballer's life but not kicking a ball for anyone, not even at U21 level, for half a season can create doubt in the mind of a young player isn't good for his development - whether that doubt is the player in his own ability or in the club and their value of him. Bringing him back to train is one thing but it is absolutely no substitute for playing. Having your brother come home from playing probably doesn't help the tea time discussions either.
Let's accept, though, that he was just a victim of circumstances and there was absolutely nothing the Club could have done about him playing. That does not change the situation that it isn't usual for clubs to allow their potentially biggest assets in the form of Zach and Miles to have just 10 months of a contract to go. Chelsea have their young players on 10 year contracts which is ridiculous and we certainly can't afford to do that but surely we have to be as pro-active as possible? As I say, this could be, potentially, a Karlan Grant (and others with contracts running down) type issue where we have very little leverage or bargaining power. If that happens, will that be the Club's fault, Zach's fault or would we just accept, like his period on loan, how things developed? Or question whether we could/should have done more and last season when Zach wasn't playing?
Again, I hope that everything is in hand and there will be an announcement in the next few weeks that both have signed. That really would be fantastic because I want to see the lad who I have seen pick up trophies since the age of about six play for us for many years to come. But if he does decide to leave soon that we get a meaningful fee for him. Doing that is, or possibly was, within our control.3 -
Amen to that, AA.1