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Addicks Players - The Valiant 1016 - V1015 James BREE, V1016 Reece BURKE (p44)

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  • Brownie12
    Brownie12 Posts: 1,525
    aliwibble said:
    Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:
    V989
    Alex MITCHELL
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V990
    Ghassan AHADME
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V991
    Greg DOCHERTY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V992
    Josh EDWARDS
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    Don’t forget mannion !
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,273
    Whoops! Ta, done now
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    sam3110 said:
    So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?
    Position on team sheet  
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    Stig said:
    sam3110 said:
    So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?
    Position on team sheet  
    Is the correct answer
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    Brownie12 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:
    V989
    Alex MITCHELL
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V990
    Ghassan AHADME
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V991
    Greg DOCHERTY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V992
    Josh EDWARDS
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    Don’t forget mannion !
    Stewards enquiry on this.

    Mannion is 989.

    Berry also played.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,218
    edited August 2024
    Henry Irving said:
    Brownie12 said:
    aliwibble said:
    Last season we went number order by the looks of it, which would make it:
    V989
    Alex MITCHELL
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V990
    Ghassan AHADME
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V991
    Greg DOCHERTY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V992
    Josh EDWARDS
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    Don’t forget mannion !
    Stewards enquiry on this.

    Mannion is 989.

    Berry also played.
    Keeper first then Squad Numbers if more than on debut in the starting eleven
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,252
    Mannion is 989
    Mitchell 990
    Ahadme 991
    Docherty 992
    Edwards 993
    Berry 994

    Right?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,218
    Stig said:
    sam3110 said:
    So how do we determine who's the first when there's multiple debutants? Number order, alphabetical order, order in which they step onto the turf when coming out of the tunnel, or order in which they touch the ball in the game?
    Position on team sheet  
    If position on team sheet is the way to go, then I then I would suggest having a look through the list as there would be an issue with the numbers allocated for the Bristol Rovers back in August 2017.

    Amos, Fosu and Clarke would need amending

    There possibly could be more hence why best to take a look
  • Masterbrew
    Masterbrew Posts: 263
    edited August 2024
    LenGlover said:
    My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.

    Same for me! First game April 1964
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  • Alex Wright
    Alex Wright Posts: 8,214
    So, I'm V0161 😁
  • Stuart_the_Red
    Stuart_the_Red Posts: 1,850
    Absolutely mental that Keith Peacock first played for the Addicks 3 months after I was born!
    I first saw him play on the ‘69-‘70 and he’s still atnthe club today!
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,333
    LenGlover said:
    My earliest is V245, John Hewie, but he'd been playing a good few years before I saw him play.
    I have a feeling Gordon Hurst (v219) turned out in a testimonial game. I’m sure someone will know.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,273
    edited August 2024
    Have we confirmed which order we're using yet? If we're going team sheet order it's:
    V0989
    Will MANNION
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0990
    Alex MITCHELL
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0991
    Greg DOCHERTY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0992
    Josh EDWARDS
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0993
    Ghassan AHADME
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0994
    Luke BERRY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    Substitute for Greg Docherty (90 mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones

    If we're going keeper then numerical order it's
    V0989
    Will MANNION
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0990
    Alex MITCHELL
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0991
    Ghassan AHADME
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0992
    Greg DOCHERTY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0993
    Josh EDWARDS
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
    V0994
    Luke BERRY
    10/08/2024 v Wigan Athletic (A)
    Substitute for Greg Docherty (90 mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones

  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 50,974
    I may be a killjoy, but does it matter which order as long as we have their name and details for future records 🤔
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,252
    edited August 2024
    Aren't numerical order and team sheet order one and the same? On official team sheets players are listed by squad number and not position are they not? 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,273
    I can't speak for previous seasons, but this season it's been positional, which is why Ahadme is lower down the list on the first one than the second one.
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,252
    I meant what one do we base it on? For instance, last season against Port Vale the official teamsheet was this:

    Which is in numerical order, whereas the one posted on social media was this:

    Which is positional order. So which one is correct? And does it actually matter?
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited August 2024
    I assume it’s done by teamsheet order for consistency’s sake.

    You can’t always find a teamsheet, especially from back in the day, where the players are given positions or even shirt numbers.

    So by moving forward with assigning V-numbers in team sheet order, it means the process of numbering stays consistent across the ~120 year history of the football club.


    I am not 100% certain about any of the above so some confirmation from the people that know what they’re doing would be helpful. :-)
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,408
    Colin Cameron will be looking down having a laugh at this discussion.

    Never had this problem back in 1990 when the 500 came into being.
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  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,218
    OK, I'm going with 

    V989 Will Mannion
    V990 Alex Mitchell
    V991 Greg Docherty
    V992 Josh Edwards
    V993 Gassan Ahadme
    V994 Luke Berry  
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,331
    Whoever is granted position number 1,000 on the V-list should be presented (perhaps by @LoOkOuT?) with the Saxman Trophy.  Especially if they disappear without trace soon after taking their place on the list. 
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    I know next to nothing about the V numbers but given that Ian Wallis has completed two volumes up to and including the 2023/2024 season of the Valley 1000 surely those numbers are set in stone?
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    I'd expect 1000 to be an academy player off the bench in a BSM Trophy game. Can't see it being a first team signing unless we get an unexpected amount of signings :) 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,273
    V0995
    Matt GODDEN
    17/08/2024 v Leyton Orient (H)
    Substitute for Gassan Ahadme (76 mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,841
    MarcusH26 said:
    I'd expect 1000 to be an academy player off the bench in a BSM Trophy game. Can't see it being a first team signing unless we get an unexpected amount of signings :) 

    We should hold back on giving debuts in the BSM once we reach 999, so that 1000 can be our star January signing. Mbappe, Messi or Darren Purse.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    Chance for a couple more today with Allan Campbell and Dan Potts both named on the bench.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,273
    edited September 2024
    V0996
    Allan CAMPBELL
    07/09/2024 v Rotherham (H)
    Substitute for  Luke Berry (59 mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    The next four debuts could be crucial. The 1000th could be an u21 off the bench in the pizza cup in the 88th minute who never plays for us again.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited September 2024
    Think we are looking at 1000 being in the Pizza Paint Motors Cup for sure now.

    Potts and maybe Hylton still to debut would take us to 998.

    Got to pull up a list of youth players who are yet to make their bow. Maybe if Dixon plays in the U21s comp he’ll be 1000…

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