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Conor Gallagher - Going to Athletico (p81)
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Surely loan clubs don’t get a development fee? I thought we had got a fee for one (or more) of the players who played in the Qatar World Cup because they’d been on loan with us during the qualifying process of something, not sure if people have misconstrued that.0
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Two possible scenarios:
Connor Gallagher Goes to Madrid and similar to Bale, when at Real, takes members of his family with him and his Golf clubs.
Stay at the odious Chelsea and walks away at the end of his contract( I assume June 2025?) and signs for a possible London Club.
Risky as Pro footballer's can be one poor tackle from a career ending in tears.
Plus football is so political that when a club wants a player to move on for various reasons and if Connor isn't happy with the new contract terms, then he could be benched or in some extreme cases will be banished from the 1st team squad.
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This was brought up in the last few months, I thought it was in the Maatsen thread but I can’t find it. Someone shared a link which showed loan clubs do get a small %. It’s not an amount that would drastically increase our budget though.se9addick said:Surely loan clubs don’t get a development fee? I thought we had got a fee for one (or more) of the players who played in the Qatar World Cup because they’d been on loan with us during the qualifying process of something, not sure if people have misconstrued that.2 -
I'm pretty sure they do and it would make sense In a modern world of big clubs hoovering up talent and loaning them out forever.se9addick said:Surely loan clubs don’t get a development fee? I thought we had got a fee for one (or more) of the players who played in the Qatar World Cup because they’d been on loan with us during the qualifying process of something, not sure if people have misconstrued that.1 -
Didnt we strangely miss out because Ian Maatsen stayed here in England (with Aston Villa)shine166 said:
I thought we got a cut of someone recently for the same reason, loan clubs are part of the development process now I'm sure.MrOneLung said:
Had he gone abroad (Borussia Dortmund), we'd have got the development fee8 -
Chelsea are a mess. Sign 40 kids and hope they turn out good but sell your homegrown players who've actually made it.
Mount, Loftus-Cheek, Guehi, Tomori, Gallagher. How many of the tons of random kids they've signed have made them any better than if they'd just kept their own kids?
Their current first team squad according to wiki is 53 players.1 -
Possibly, which means if CG goes Spain we get a small feeForeverAddickted said:
Didnt we strangely miss out because Ian Maatsen stayed here in England (with Aston Villa)shine166 said:
I thought we got a cut of someone recently for the same reason, loan clubs are part of the development process now I'm sure.MrOneLung said:
Had he gone abroad (Borussia Dortmund), we'd have got the development fee1 -
Can't find the link either but this is @Swisdom's comment on the rumours thread re Maatsen:Scoham said:
This was brought up in the last few months, I thought it was in the Maatsen thread but I can’t find it. Someone shared a link which showed loan clubs do get a small %. It’s not an amount that would drastically increase our budget though.se9addick said:Surely loan clubs don’t get a development fee? I thought we had got a fee for one (or more) of the players who played in the Qatar World Cup because they’d been on loan with us during the qualifying process of something, not sure if people have misconstrued that.
Solidarity payments are made to any club that played a part in the players' development between the ages of 12 and 23 I believe. We had him when he was 19 so are entitled to a percentage of the fee. This only applies if a player moves to another country. Same applies to Joe Gomez if he goes to Bayern - and we would get a lot more as he was with us for many years so he would be more like a million if he goes for £40m
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With Gallagher he was here for such a short period of time it would be minimal0
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Isn’t there something in the FFP rules that mean it’s better for them to sell their own academy players and sign others from elsewhere such as Cole Palmer?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Chelsea are a mess. Sign 40 kids and hope they turn out good but sell your homegrown players who've actually made it.
Mount, Loftus-Cheek, Guehi, Tomori, Gallagher. How many of the tons of random kids they've signed have made them any better than if they'd just kept their own kids?
Their current first team squad according to wiki is 53 players.2 - Sponsored links:
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Yes, it counts as pure profit on the books as academy spending doesn't count towards FFP/PSRScoham said:
Isn’t there something in the FFP rules that mean it’s better for them to sell their own academy players and sign others from elsewhere such as Cole Palmer?Chris_from_Sidcup said:Chelsea are a mess. Sign 40 kids and hope they turn out good but sell your homegrown players who've actually made it.
Mount, Loftus-Cheek, Guehi, Tomori, Gallagher. How many of the tons of random kids they've signed have made them any better than if they'd just kept their own kids?
Their current first team squad according to wiki is 53 players.3 -
If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?15 -
Think they’re just desperate to shift him because of their bonkers transfer strategy so they’re trying to freeze him out. Completely nuts.Callumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?2 -
team captain last year, seems unwanted now, Maresca says he is not guaranteed to be a starter .. Dewsbury-Hall is the new blue eyed boy it seems and i m o could become an international prospect at Chelsea, Maresca of course knows all about him from their Leicester daysCallumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?0 -
I think la liga would be a good move for him2
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agreed it would certainly develop his all round gameBigRedEvil said:I think la liga would be a good move for him1 -
Call me old fashioned, but aren’t players expected to earn the right to start and then earn the right to keep starting, anymore?
Surely no one is guaranteed to start games. Sounds like media bull shit to me trying to drum up a story.If he’s been frozen out of the first team squad completely, then that’s a different story altogether.0 -
I think being captain of a sensible Chelsea would be a good non-move for him, but thus is life. I do agree though that if he’s going to be forced out of the madhouse then Simeone & Athletico are a great outcome for him. Insane that it’s come to this though.BigRedEvil said:I think la liga would be a good move for him0 -
Maresca will be gone by JanuaryLincsaddick said:
team captain last year, seems unwanted now, Maresca says he is not guaranteed to be a starter .. Dewsbury-Hall is the new blue eyed boy it seems and i m o could become an international prospect at Chelsea, Maresca of course knows all about him from their Leicester daysCallumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?0 -
A lot of Chelsea fans are really angry at shipping Gallagher out. He stood for a lot because of his longevity there, he's English and was a bit of a totem for them. He's being sold off just so they can carry on playing football manager and skirt around various profit and sustainability rules.
I'd love it if he went somewhere and knocked them out of a European tournament and gave it big licks to Maresca.
I never liked Chelsea when I was young, I hated them under Abramovich and this new guy is making them even more unlikeable! I hope it all comes crashing down around them24 - Sponsored links:
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I can understand a club not wanting a player for financial, tactical reasons but the treatment of Gallagher just lacks class and I hope that he does stick it out and does a bosman next year, although probably would not do much for him not playing for a year.
Chelsea have obviously pissed off their fans with treatment of one of their own, but I also wonder how the men he played with, captained, last season are feeling about his treatment4 -
I’m not so sure he will last that long.wmcf123 said:
Maresca will be gone by JanuaryLincsaddick said:
team captain last year, seems unwanted now, Maresca says he is not guaranteed to be a starter .. Dewsbury-Hall is the new blue eyed boy it seems and i m o could become an international prospect at Chelsea, Maresca of course knows all about him from their Leicester daysCallumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?2 -
nothing the Chelsea owners do is a surprise nowadays, as you perhaps suggest, IF Chelsea are not soon up with the pace then Maresca could well be another manager dropped through the Stamford Bridge trap doorwmcf123 said:
Maresca will be gone by JanuaryLincsaddick said:
team captain last year, seems unwanted now, Maresca says he is not guaranteed to be a starter .. Dewsbury-Hall is the new blue eyed boy it seems and i m o could become an international prospect at Chelsea, Maresca of course knows all about him from their Leicester daysCallumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?
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Hope he sits for a year on a free wage and leaves on a free next season.Callumcafc said:If you believe what’s on Twitter, he’s been told by Chelsea that he has no future there and will not be training with the first team moving forward.
Not a great way to treat a player who’s been at your club since the age of 8 and club captain last season. Typical Chelsea?
After how Chelsea have treated him, they don't deserve any better.1 -
Offer is for £34m, if Chelsea agree to sell0
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Bbc reporting he's agreed to the move. Think this will be good for him and take his game to another level.
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My mum has been a Chelsea fan since the [REDACTED]s and she is pretty horrified at the moment. Selling homegrown talent to fund purchases of 19 year old South Americans who will never play for the first team is crazy. They've always been bad with their academy, in all honesty Mount, James, Abraham and Tomori only really broke through because they had a transfer ban and Lampard liked using them. If Chelsea had ever cared about their academy right now they could have had a backline with James, Lamptey, Tomori, Guehi, Chalobah, Colwill and Lewis Hall but they've always let the players who need time to develop go.Swisdom said:A lot of Chelsea fans are really angry at shipping Gallagher out. He stood for a lot because of his longevity there, he's English and was a bit of a totem for them. He's being sold off just so they can carry on playing football manager and skirt around various profit and sustainability rules.
I'd love it if he went somewhere and knocked them out of a European tournament and gave it big licks to Maresca.
I never liked Chelsea when I was young, I hated them under Abramovich and this new guy is making them even more unlikeable! I hope it all comes crashing down around them
This current situation is so much worse though, because under Abramovich they might sell some kids off but they'd bring in some proper players in their place. If you look at their signings this season though they've brought in a bang average CB on a free, yet another goalkeeper to add to the pile of seven(!) goalkeepers they have available including, somehow, Kepa and Dewsbury-Hall, whose career so far has included being very good in the Championship and a Premier League relegation. There's talk of them spunking everything they've raised on Osimhen as well which will likely end in the appropriate amount of tears. It's an absolutely bizarre strategy and it's a shame that it will be short term when the owners realise finally they need to pivot, but the loss of players who have been at the club since they were 8 is permanent5 -
I just don't get the strategy under Boehly/Clearlake. Saw they've signed another 16yr old Brazilian that can't play for them for 2 years on a stupidly long contract. I don't get why they've signed the keeper from Villarreal when they have Petrovic who I thought looked pretty impressive for someone coming over from MLS. Still no natural striker and talk of some weird loan swap involving Lukaku and Oshimen.
This is all going to end in tears with the way they're structuring these deals and letting go of the likes of Gallagher isn't going to help.0 -
It won't be anything to do with Maresca, his title is 'head coach' so he has no real say in transfers. I read that the board deciding they were going to ship out Gallagher and Chalobah were the main reason Pochettino decided to leave.Swisdom said:A lot of Chelsea fans are really angry at shipping Gallagher out. He stood for a lot because of his longevity there, he's English and was a bit of a totem for them. He's being sold off just so they can carry on playing football manager and skirt around various profit and sustainability rules.
I'd love it if he went somewhere and knocked them out of a European tournament and gave it big licks to Maresca.
I never liked Chelsea when I was young, I hated them under Abramovich and this new guy is making them even more unlikeable! I hope it all comes crashing down around them
Bear in mind that Gallagher was the player who had the most minutes under him, and Chelsea didn't lose a game at the end of last season after Chalobah returned from injury.
Rumours are that Poch said you can't sell them, they're important to my plans, but the board said tough shit they're going. So Poch decided enough was enough.5 -
It's basically a player farm. Sign cheap youngsters, loan them out, if 2-3 turn out to be great and make the first team then you've done well, the rest will likely never play a single minute for them and they'll just hope to turn a profit on them.MarcusH26 said:I just don't get the strategy under Boehly/Clearlake. Saw they've signed another 16yr old Brazilian that can't play for them for 2 years on a stupidly long contract. I don't get why they've signed the keeper from Villarreal when they have Petrovic who I thought looked pretty impressive for someone coming over from MLS. Still no natural striker and talk of some weird loan swap involving Lukaku and Oshimen.
This is all going to end in tears with the way they're structuring these deals and letting go of the likes of Gallagher isn't going to help.
A couple of the South Americans they've signed, (Kendry Paez and Estevao) are the ones to look out for. Paez has been playing first team football since he was 15 and already has a dozen caps for Ecuador. Estevao is supposed to be Brazil's best young talent since Neymar.2
