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Alfie May - signed for Birmingham (p68 - Now Huddersfield )

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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,543
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    My son has only really got into football in the last year and the worst thing for me in this is trying to explain tohim why his first Charlton hero no longer plays for us.

    Knew I made the right decision by getting his own name on his shirt rather than May's like he'd wanted!
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 
    I think you’re right, it’s a final contract on more money and don’t blame him
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,543
    My son has only really got into football in the last year and the worst thing for me in this is trying to explain tohim why his first Charlton hero no longer plays for us.

    Knew I made the right decision by getting his own name on his shirt rather than May's like he'd wanted!
    It’s character building and don’t forget to tell him to expect it to happen on a regular basis.
  • LargeAddick said: 
    My son has only really got into football in the last year and the worst thing for me in this is trying to explain tohim why his first Charlton hero no longer plays for us.

    Knew I made the right decision by getting his own name on his shirt rather than May's like he'd wanted!
    It’s character building and don’t forget to tell him to expect it to happen on a regular basis.
    Supporting Charlton, feels like one day you wake up, and feel like you’ve been misold a pension!
  • Marriott110
    Marriott110 Posts: 1,528
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 

    I think so too, he didn't (and rightly IMO) feel he should be on the bench as a bit part player and the club would be more than happy to get an extra 1M back on our outgoings to use on players who Jones wants 
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,063
    My son has only really got into football in the last year and the worst thing for me in this is trying to explain tohim why his first Charlton hero no longer plays for us.

    Knew I made the right decision by getting his own name on his shirt rather than May's like he'd wanted!
    It’s character building and don’t forget to tell him to expect it to happen on a regular basis.
    Oh god yeah. He only needs to look at his dad to see what a lifetime of supporting Charlton does to a man. He's gonna have to get used to crushing disappointment quickly. 
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,275
    Leuth said:
    Carter said:
    NabySarr said:
    Carter said:
    Birmingham have just made the signing of the season, a guy who scores for fun at this level, works his nuts off and antagonises the opposition. They have signed a ready made cult hero. 

    We are now back to less forwards than we had for the last couple of seasons and only one of them stays fit. Triffic
    I’m not sure he will actually do that amazingly there. If it was Huddersfield he’d probably score loads but it remains to be seen how Birmingham will play/set up and whether that will suit May
    He scored tons for a truly shit Charlton team and even more for a less shit, but still limited Cheltenham Town. He will dip his bread there and their fans will love him
    He scored tons for two sides who set themselves up entirely to feed him and basically him alone, with the result that other forward players were cast as support act. He may have scored 20 but he probably should have scored 30 given some of the chances he wasted. But here's the thing - are Birmingham going to do that? Will his pace hold up? Will Birmingham have a better penalty taker (probably)? Or is this more of the worst football takes you've all ever seen, blah blah 
    Must have missed us setting up entirely to feed him, spent most of the season playing out of position. To get the best out of May you play a 3-5-2 and pair him with a big target man. How many times did we see that? 
  • _MrDick
    _MrDick Posts: 13,101
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 
    I agree. I was told by a friend of his that Jones and May didn’t get along. But if he’s been offered £11k a week - probably double what he’s on at Charlton - then surely, his head has been turned
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,451
    edited July 2024
    Shame.
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  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,543
    JaShea99 said:
    This is getting embarrassing. You’d never see Messi show such desperation.
    Wrong thread?
  • Braziliance
    Braziliance Posts: 8,325
    Fair play to Alfie £25k per week is not to be sniffed at , especially at his age 



    I heard £40k pw and £90k per goal bonus
    Can confirm I've also heard this but there's allegedly a 'passion' bonus worth approx 5k per gesture as well.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,156
    Apparently this has not appeared to have wound me up as much as selling Killer or Sven not taking Darren Bent to the World Cup must be mellowing with age.
    In the end it's a third division player moving on. How upset can we honestly get compared to some of what we've lost? The last time I was truly apoplectic was when we sold Yann. The season before with next to no investment we'd finished 3 points off the Championship Play-Offs. A bloke came in with a bit of money the following January and you felt like we could seriously challenge if Powell just got given some proper backing. Instead we chucked our truly Premier League level player and brought in someone's nephew or whatever to replace him. 
    Now we're trading off players who shuffle us around between midtable third division and slightly lower midtable third divison, I can't be bothered to get wound up about it. Wake me up when the squad's been put together, I've only got so many more existential crises in me before my head bursts and I'd like to save them for some higher level stuff.
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,512
    This is so much better than the George Dobson hissy fit fall out.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Don’t give a shit about losing may, he scored goals in a meaningless wanky season.

    I’d put money on it now that the team scores more goals next season than we did last.

    absolutely nothing against him but let’s not pretend he’s something that he wasn’t 
    Let’s see how you feel about that at the end of the season.
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Apparently this has not appeared to have wound me up as much as selling Killer or Sven not taking Darren Bent to the World Cup must be mellowing with age.
    Or just used to it by now. 
  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,408
    You wait ages and ages for a consistent Goalscorer to come along, and then……
    one arrives and we sell him for a £1m profit when we supposedly have plenty of transfer funds. 

    Without NJ we would be in L2 and May would have gone anyway, but Nathan, you have used up your extra life and the clock starts ticking in a few weeks time, that sale was a needless own goal by you. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,955
    Scoham said:
    In January I couldn’t see how May would leave, I thought he was worth more than anyone would pay.

    Shows how much money there is in football when there are one or two L1 clubs who will pay £1m or close to it for a striker in his 30s with no Championship experience. 

    I have doubts about him at Championship level but he is as close as we can get to guaranteed goals in a player at this level, Birmingham will do what I hoped we’d do and worry about that when they get there.

    We need to replace him with two good strikers that leave us stronger overall. Big ask but we’ll see.
    He doesn’t need to be Championship level. He’s a proven League One goalscorer. I’d also bet anyone that can score 23 league goals in the third tier could probably do a half decent job in The Championship. 
    You might bet on that but not a single Championship side bet on it and I know who would be the better judge.
  • I'll sound like a broken record but will say again anyway - 

    Jones doesn't fancy Alfie for the system he wants to play and as a manager he has to live and die by these decisions, if we go up no one will even be speaking about Alfie May. 

    If however we have midtable mediocrity again he will be getting questioned and quite rightly so. Its a huge gamble but if im the manager id rather fail trying to do things my way as oppose to fail playing a way i dont to shoehorn a player i dont like to appease fans.

    Also if May has engineered this i really dont blame him 31 this will be his last big contract spent a lot of time in non-league so sure he didnt earn good money until later in his career, doing whats best for his family.
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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    You wait ages and ages for a consistent Goalscorer to come along, and then……
    one arrives and we sell him for a £1m profit when we supposedly have plenty of transfer funds. 

    Without NJ we would be in L2 and May would have gone anyway, but Nathan, you have used up your extra life and the clock starts ticking in a few weeks time, that sale was a needless own goal by you. 
    thing is IF a player (in this case May) is determined to go, i m o, let him go .. we don't want anyone on good money downing tools and taking the mick, all it does is cause dressing room unrest as will as cheesing off the fans .. take the money and look around for another striker who will fit into Jones's plans 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,955
    If we don't sign 1 or 2 good forwards it will be a terrible decision.
    If we do sign 1 or 2 good forwards it may be a decent or very good decision.

    Not one person knows how this will pan out and the window doesn't close tomorrow.
    So is there any chance of us being sensible and waiting to see what transpires?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,619
    You wait ages and ages for a consistent Goalscorer to come along, and then……
    one arrives and we sell him for a £1m profit when we supposedly have plenty of transfer funds. 

    Without NJ we would be in L2 and May would have gone anyway, but Nathan, you have used up your extra life and the clock starts ticking in a few weeks time, that sale was a needless own goal by you. 
    thing is IF a player (in this case May) is determined to go, i m o, let him go .. we don't want anyone on good money downing tools and taking the mick, all it does is cause dressing room unrest as will as cheesing off the fans .. take the money and look around for another striker who will fit into Jones's plans 
    I have it on good authority, Alfie wanted to stay at Charlton and see out his professional career with us - but, very shortly after Jones was appointed, he realised that Jones didn’t fancy him, and in reality Alfie didn’t ‘fit’ into what Jones wanted 

    This is something - IMO - Alfie has had to put up with all his career - his height - even today, English football has a dislike of short players, especially as CF’s

    It’s idiotic - what he lacks in height, he makes up for in so many other areas - and yes, I’m short as well, not much taller than Alfie - and whilst I was nowhere near his standard, I still did a shift as a CF in amateur footballer (an annoying wasp of a player I was)

    So, if he knows he is not wanted in reality, and he is just over 30 years old, but still fit as a butchers dog, rapid, scores goals by the bucket load - yes Alfie, get that move - earn a shedload of money for your family, because they matter more than anything for Alfie, and rightly so

    As for Charlton Athletic, our loss in my opinion 

    If Jones has called this wrong, and season starts badly, and Alfie’s replacement is dog eggs, it’s gonna be toxic, and we are back to square root of fuck all ……
  • Fumbluff
    Fumbluff Posts: 10,116
    Doesn’t fit the system that Nathan wants to play. 
    That will be a system of not scoring goals, not winning games and probably playing three mostly shit wingers “up-front”.

    But they will work hard and have great stats at passing backwards. 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    You wait ages and ages for a consistent Goalscorer to come along, and then……
    one arrives and we sell him for a £1m profit when we supposedly have plenty of transfer funds. 

    Without NJ we would be in L2 and May would have gone anyway, but Nathan, you have used up your extra life and the clock starts ticking in a few weeks time, that sale was a needless own goal by you. 
    thing is IF a player (in this case May) is determined to go, i m o, let him go .. we don't want anyone on good money downing tools and taking the mick, all it does is cause dressing room unrest as will as cheesing off the fans .. take the money and look around for another striker who will fit into Jones's plans 
    I have it on good authority, Alfie wanted to stay at Charlton and see out his professional career with us - but, very shortly after Jones was appointed, he realised that Jones didn’t fancy him, and in reality Alfie didn’t ‘fit’ into what Jones wanted 

    This is something - IMO - Alfie has had to put up with all his career - his height - even today, English football has a dislike of short players, especially as CF’s

    It’s idiotic - what he lacks in height, he makes up for in so many other areas - and yes, I’m short as well, not much taller than Alfie - and whilst I was nowhere near his standard, I still did a shift as a CF in amateur footballer (an annoying wasp of a player I was)

    So, if he knows he is not wanted in reality, and he is just over 30 years old, but still fit as a butchers dog, rapid, scores goals by the bucket load - yes Alfie, get that move - earn a shedload of money for your family, because they matter more than anything for Alfie, and rightly so

    As for Charlton Athletic, our loss in my opinion 

    If Jones has called this wrong, and season starts badly, and Alfie’s replacement is dog eggs, it’s gonna be toxic, and we are back to square root of fuck all ……
    So because Jones didn’t want to build the team/play around may he wanted to leave?
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,619
    You wait ages and ages for a consistent Goalscorer to come along, and then……
    one arrives and we sell him for a £1m profit when we supposedly have plenty of transfer funds. 

    Without NJ we would be in L2 and May would have gone anyway, but Nathan, you have used up your extra life and the clock starts ticking in a few weeks time, that sale was a needless own goal by you. 
    thing is IF a player (in this case May) is determined to go, i m o, let him go .. we don't want anyone on good money downing tools and taking the mick, all it does is cause dressing room unrest as will as cheesing off the fans .. take the money and look around for another striker who will fit into Jones's plans 
    I have it on good authority, Alfie wanted to stay at Charlton and see out his professional career with us - but, very shortly after Jones was appointed, he realised that Jones didn’t fancy him, and in reality Alfie didn’t ‘fit’ into what Jones wanted 

    This is something - IMO - Alfie has had to put up with all his career - his height - even today, English football has a dislike of short players, especially as CF’s

    It’s idiotic - what he lacks in height, he makes up for in so many other areas - and yes, I’m short as well, not much taller than Alfie - and whilst I was nowhere near his standard, I still did a shift as a CF in amateur footballer (an annoying wasp of a player I was)

    So, if he knows he is not wanted in reality, and he is just over 30 years old, but still fit as a butchers dog, rapid, scores goals by the bucket load - yes Alfie, get that move - earn a shedload of money for your family, because they matter more than anything for Alfie, and rightly so

    As for Charlton Athletic, our loss in my opinion 

    If Jones has called this wrong, and season starts badly, and Alfie’s replacement is dog eggs, it’s gonna be toxic, and we are back to square root of fuck all ……
    So because Jones didn’t want to build the team/play around may he wanted to leave?
    No - because Jones don’t want him 

    Why - well you will have to ask Jones 

    Me - if I was Alfie, I would get out and move on - and I would do the same, even though I am CAFC through and through - because, at the end of the day, my family come before CAFC - pro footballer career is short…

    He has landed on a very good deal aged over 30 - good for him

    Nathan - over to you…..
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,821
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 
    Based on what?

    Obviously you're entitled to an opinion, but I'd love to know what that's based on, because I've not heard or read anything of the sort. 

    If it's no more than a "hunch" then that's pretty poor form.
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,734
    As people have already said, unless we get in a suitable replacement and we aren't in the shake up at the end of the season this will be on Jones. All I would say is that the players bought into Jones ways (twice) at Luton where he was very successful and they blatantly didn't at Stoke (38 games) and Southampton (14). For that reason, the one thing Jones can't have is players who aren't totally committed to playing the way he wants to play hence Alfie's departure. We won't have to wait too long to find out who was right. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,955
    Off_it said:
    Scott was the most influential player I have seen at Charlton and was gutted that he left but it was a move he engineered so couldn’t blame the club 
    I’m of the opinion that Alfie has somewhat engineered this move. Just my opinion. 
    Based on what?

    Obviously you're entitled to an opinion, but I'd love to know what that's based on, because I've not heard or read anything of the sort. 

    If it's no more than a "hunch" then that's pretty poor form.
    Alfie had booked himself in for private leg extensions operation, to make him 6 foot tall.
    Once his agent got Brum willing to double his wages, he cancelled the op and signed on the dotted line.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,801
    Fumbluff said:
    Doesn’t fit the system that Nathan wants to play. 
    That will be a system of not scoring goals, not winning games and probably playing three mostly shit wingers “up-front”.

    But they will work hard and have great stats at passing backwards. 
    'Sir, permission to officially wet the bed, Sir'

    'Not granted Fumbluff.'

    'Sir, reporting an unofficial bed wetting incident.'