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The Chief Constable and His Medals

Lincsaddick
Lincsaddick Posts: 32,385
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Nick Adderley has been sacked from his role as Northamptonshire's Chief Constable.
A 'you couldn't make it up story', amongst other Walter Mittyisms, he lied about his military career and claimed that a medal he wore had been given to him and was worn in tribute to his brother when in fact the medal was a fake

Question is, who vetted and employed this lying idiot ?. No wonder old bill is going through a serious period of doubtful trust and credibility.
This joker's behaviour is a slap in the face to all the decent cops who go about their increasingly difficult jobs with good manners and good intentions 

Northamptonshire chief constable who lied about naval rank dismissed - BBC News
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  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,258

  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,681
    Phoenix nights?
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,681
    Being awarded a medal at 15 is some achievement 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,630
    R0TW said:
    Being awarded a medal at 15 is some achievement 
    Unless it’s a Jim’ll fix it one 
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Absolute scumbag 
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,630
    edited June 2024
    cafcdave123 said:
    Absolute scumbag 
    Sorry, too poor taste?
  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,494
    You would be surprised by how bad HR departments are in the public sector in checking qualifications etc.  In the private sector there is far more accountability.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,385
    cfgs said:
    You would be surprised by how bad HR departments are in the public sector in checking qualifications etc.  In the private sector there is far more accountability.
    I worked in the NHS for a while. During that shortish time, three 'doctors' were uncovered as fakes, no medical qualifications at all !! 
    This was a while ago, I really hope that initial screening of new staff has vastly improved
  • Lordflashheart
    Lordflashheart Posts: 5,626
    Disgusting - my Dad, Grandad, Great Grandad, Great Great Grandad all served in the British Army, incl both World Wars (Dad Cold War but also Northern Ireland) - on Remembrance Sunday I wear my Dad’s medal with pride, on the right hand side of my chest of course

    Quite simply, how dare you, you fucking helmet, do what you have done, yet millions of others wear / wore their medals, which were fully deserved, with pride, for their service to our country

    I fucking hate this sort of Walter Mitty type, and a Copper as well !!!

    Some people in this world, and their brazen behaviour, simply amaze me - he was gonna get found out, but still did it - I hate narcissist's - they will quite simply do anything, and damn all others 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,197
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

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  • cfgs
    cfgs Posts: 11,494
    Lincsaddick said:
    cfgs said:
    You would be surprised by how bad HR departments are in the public sector in checking qualifications etc.  In the private sector there is far more accountability.
    I worked in the NHS for a while. During that shortish time, three 'doctors' were uncovered as fakes, no medical qualifications at all !! 
    This was a while ago, I really hope that initial screening of new staff has vastly improved
    Doesn't surprise me at all.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Lordflashheart said:
    Disgusting - my Dad, Grandad, Great Grandad, Great Great Grandad all served in the British Army, incl both World Wars (Dad Cold War but also Northern Ireland) - on Remembrance Sunday I wear my Dad’s medal with pride, on the right hand side of my chest of course

    Quite simply, how dare you, you fucking helmet, do what you have done, yet millions of others wear / wore their medals, which were fully deserved, with pride, for their service to our country

    I fucking hate this sort of Walter Mitty type, and a Copper as well !!!

    Some people in this world, and their brazen behaviour, simply amaze me - he was gonna get found out, but still did it - I hate narcissist's - they will quite simply do anything, and damn all others 
    I would have thought you would have a load of Royal Flying Corps medals of your own!
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,592
    cfgs said:
    You would be surprised by how bad HR departments are in the public sector in checking qualifications etc.  In the private sector there is far more accountability.
    Having worked in both it is pretty inconsistent between the two and is more about the HR team than actually public v private.

    At NHS I had to wait weeks for all the checks to be done including safeguarding even though it was a non public facing office role (safeguarding was about patient care).

    Understandably it was similar for being a Trustee of a special needs school in Kent.


  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,522
    57????

    He also lied about the length of his paper round
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,522
    DaveMehmet said:
    R0TW said:
    Being awarded a medal at 15 is some achievement 
    Unless it’s a Jim’ll fix it one 
    I got a Jim'll Fix It badge at 14, when Jim fixed it for me to milk a cow while blindfold 🏅 🐄 🥛 
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,621
    usetobunkin said:
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

    He's been dismissed, it's my understanding that happens automatically. I may be wrong.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,197
    Mind you some of the Royal Family medals don’t stand up to scrutiny 
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,522
    usetobunkin said:
    Mind you some of the Royal Family medals don’t stand up to scrutiny 
    Thought their medals were mostly ceremonial (for being a head of a certain branch or battalion of the Armed Forces for example) unless they were awarded for a particular operational reason, in which case, they probably would stand up to scrutiny. From recent history, I know he's now passed away, but pretty sure Prince Phillip, for example, was mentioned in dispatches during his time in the Royal Navy so it would follow that he might've physically earned a medal or two.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,287
    Gribbo said:
    DaveMehmet said:
    R0TW said:
    Being awarded a medal at 15 is some achievement 
    Unless it’s a Jim’ll fix it one 
    I got a Jim'll Fix It badge at 14, when Jim fixed it for me to milk a cow while blindfold 🏅 🐄 🥛 
    Did you get a drink of milk afterwards  :#
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,290
    Prince Philip's British War medals

    Africa Star
    Burma Star
    with "Pacific" clasp
    Italy Star
    1939-45 War Medal
    with Mention in Despatches

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  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,271
    He's lucky we haven't bought our own stolen valour act in yet. That said, we treat our veterans so appallingly it isn't like they get priority housing, medical care or money off anywhere like in the US to be making financial gain. 

    The rank he is at I imagine he would have been one of the morons making it so that all new starter PC's have to have a degree therefore cutting off the previously excellent talent pool of legit ex squaddies who often make very decent officers 

  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,394
    I have some sympathy with Nick Adderley. When I stormed Mt Longdon in my Bermuda shorts armed with only a potato peeler, taking out an Argie gun emplacement it wasn't for the medals, it was for the regiment and my mates. The fact that I lost my service medals in a house fire and had to fashion replacements from discarded Quality Street wrappers is besides the point, I still went on to a long career in public service resulting in my ennoblement and eventual seat in the House of Lords, where myself and colleagues successfully blocked the infamous attempt by the Tories to change the law on eating Brussel Sprouts on a Shrove Tuesday...
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,487
    Keeps his pension.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,660
    man_at_milletts said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

    He's been dismissed, it's my understanding that happens automatically. I may be wrong.
    You are wrong, unfortunately.
    And the vetting in the police (like everything else) has been dramatically downgraded. You used to have to wait ages for it all to come back clear before you got anywhere near being employed.
    Not so now.
    All of it makes my blood boil.
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,727
    man_at_milletts said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

    He's been dismissed, it's my understanding that happens automatically. I may be wrong.
    His pension will be frozen until he reaches the official retirement age of 67.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,522
    edited June 2024
    Can't be short of a few bob. Be nice, and go someway to show a bit of remorse, if he made a respectable donation to a Veteran's charity.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,915
    Not like the Old Bill to lie or try and cover things up, is it?
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,205
    KBslittlesis said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

    He's been dismissed, it's my understanding that happens automatically. I may be wrong.
    You are wrong, unfortunately.
    And the vetting in the police (like everything else) has been dramatically downgraded. You used to have to wait ages for it all to come back clear before you got anywhere near being employed.
    Not so now.
    All of it makes my blood boil.
    I find all this quite extraordinary. (In my old job I had to be positive vetted. I think this has now been replaced by something called an Enhanced Security Check. Same thing different name.) This was a stringent process involving amongst other things a MI5 check and an onerous interview with a specialist investigator from that organisation. 

    I would be stunned if an individual holding the rank of Chief Constable, who would be highly likely to be in receipt of material designated as top secret, had not been ESC'd.  But nothing wrong was found? Totally bizarre.
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,237
    Off_it said:
    Not like the Old Bill to lie or try and cover things up, is it?

    It's cobblers to think he made it to Chief Constable of Northampton while lying his way to the top job.
    He's just like the Small Dick that was in charge at the Met and who was involved in so many controversial actions while brown nosing her way to the top.
  • KBslittlesis
    KBslittlesis Posts: 8,660
    cafcfan said:
    KBslittlesis said:
    man_at_milletts said:
    usetobunkin said:
    Stolen valour is one of the most despicable things any man can do.
    Strip this lowlife of his pension 

    He's been dismissed, it's my understanding that happens automatically. I may be wrong.
    You are wrong, unfortunately.
    And the vetting in the police (like everything else) has been dramatically downgraded. You used to have to wait ages for it all to come back clear before you got anywhere near being employed.
    Not so now.
    All of it makes my blood boil.
    I find all this quite extraordinary. (In my old job I had to be positive vetted. I think this has now been replaced by something called an Enhanced Security Check. Same thing different name.) This was a stringent process involving amongst other things a MI5 check and an onerous interview with a specialist investigator from that organisation. 

    I would be stunned if an individual holding the rank of Chief Constable, who would be highly likely to be in receipt of material designated as top secret, had not been ESC'd.  But nothing wrong was found? Totally bizarre.
    Yep, I had the same in my last posting over 15yrs ago.
    But all while I was already in post as I had been working in the service for many years.
    I can well believe he slipped through the cracks these days, unfortunately.

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