George Dobson - Gone to Wrexham p136, farewell message p142

SoundAsa£ said:

I have a funny feeling that George’s wife may yet play a part in this saga.

If that were the case surely the time for her to say “no” (presuming that’s what you meant) would have been some point before he signed a pre-contract agreement. 

AberystwythAddick said:

SoundAsa£ said:

I have a funny feeling that George’s wife may yet play a part in this saga.

Is she a specialist in contract law? 

Yes

se9addick said:

SoundAsa£ said:

I have a funny feeling that George’s wife may yet play a part in this saga.

If that were the case surely the time for her to say “no” (presuming that’s what you meant) would have been some point before he signed a pre-contract agreement. 

I agree it would have been preferable had she done so….but she could easily dig her heels in some way or another.
I’m not suggesting that a ‘no way Jose’ from her will make any difference to the legalities, however it might underline Dobs reluctance to go out there to the point of it being impossible for him to do so.

At the end of the day IF Dobbo wants to stay we need the Hungarian club to play ball, or another English club does, otherwise he’s gone.

LargeAddick said:

Chunes said:

Let's not forget we had a Coach & Director of Football setup. Andy Scott was in charge of retention/recruitment and he told Dobbo that he didn't rate him. As far as Dobbo was concerned, the guy in charge didn't want him and that was the end of it.

How was George supposed to know that they'd bring in Jones as manager and want him to stay? He didn't have a crystal ball 

Didn’t need a crystal ball. Appleton was on very thin ice at the time and it wouldn’t be long until he was replaced and then under a new manager, who knows? Plus I still don’t understand why he didn’t wait until the summer and see what was on offer then? 

You'd need a crystal ball to predict that the next incoming person was going to supplant Andy Scott's authority, and that they wouldn't just be another head coach working under the DoF

In fact, if we'd not managed to get Jones, there's every chance we'd probably still be following that model

SELR_addicks said:

DamoNorthStand said:

He’s going imo, so I will just say this about Dobson. He’s been consistently our best and hardest working player over the last few years. He deserves immense credit for that.

But put him in the Powell or Bowyer promotion squads and he wouldn’t have been in either starting eleven in my view.

So if we want promotion - maybe this can still work out for the best for everyone. It will all come down to who me manage to bring in. If we can’t bring in better - than my bigger concern would be we ain’t gonna be going up.

Lets not forget our midfielders in our last promotion squads included Josh Cullen, Dale Stephens, Joe Aribo, Danny Hollands, Bielik, Jacko etc.

I would say Dobson is on par with Danny Hollands. 

Difference is that Hollands had Stephens alongside him. Dobson had Morgan. 

Hollands also scored a lot more goals!

If I’ve got the timeline right, Jones killed the permanent transfer, and still Dobson signed the pre contract regardless, with Jones as manager, and not Appleton. 

Are they any good? If not, let’s offer to play them
for his registration. The equivalent of racing for slips. 

Whoever at Charlton let this situation develop is an absolute joke. Probably explains why we were in such a dire state before NJ arrived. At last a proper football person at the club !

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vff said:

DubaiCAFC said:

Also, if he really wanted to stay, he had two contact offers, and he could have come out in press and put his side of the story out, but he hasn’t, which suggests to me, he also hasn’t played ball in this as well.. this isn’t to say he hasn’t been our most committed player still.. 

It is sad he is going on, and hopefully we can bring in a more forward thinking midfielder to play alongside Coventry. Sad to see him go, but not as said as losing someone like Aribo a couple of years back.

We move on, and hope we are sitting here this time next year celebrating promotion 

You are seriously proposing that having that George Dobson, should have personally played out contract negotiations via the SLP ? That is never a good look for any professional footballer and is a red flag for future employers. 

I know muddying the water is your thing but that is not sensible / realistic at all. Especially for a good character such as George Dobson. 

It is apparent that 'technical director', Andy Scott didn't rate him and the money to keep him was not made available by the SMT. Not as yet anyway. Nathan Jones wants to keep him, and for any potential promotion push, Charlton supporters have to hope that Nathan Jones choices are at the top of the list and money is available to back him.

Why wouldn’t he, if he really wanted to stay, and has a manager that trusts him and believes in him, I’ve could easily come out and said I wanted to stay, but it was difficult for me to do so.. also not once has Jones actually said Dobson wants to stay. More he wants to keep him.. and the comment of they need to find common ground suggests a lot of work, from Charlton, the other club and Dobson.
For me Dobson is a good player, but if we want to get out of this division, we need better.

And for the record, Dobson 2nd offer was basically what he wanted, but chose not to sign it. 

Henry Irving said:

DubaiCAFC said:

And for the record, Dobson 2nd offer was basically what he wanted, but chose not to sign it. 

So says Andy Scott.

What does Dobson say about it?

But the narrative that the offer was only as good as Tennai Watson's just comes from some rando on here... 

The issue is our fanbase, and in particular many posters on here, need a pantomime villain to point and scream at. Scott is now that person and nothing people will say or do will sway that for them now. Similar to when we had Steve Gallen, every good signing was his and every bad one was Driesen's, when in reality it was a bit of both, because that's what happens at clubs across the world, some signings work and some don't. And when Driesen was no longer here and it all fell to Gallen the narrative shifted to "but he has no money to work with" when the reality is we never really had money to work with.

No doubt if we build a squad next season that challenges for promotion, it will all be down to Jones, and any bad eggs will be dumped upon Scott's head, and if it looks anything like this season Scott will be blamed for it all. 

Look at Arsenal for instance, close to winning the league and with standout players like Rice, Odegaard and Martinelli, but they've signed some dross along the way too like Pepe (who cost close to £70m more than Martinelli) but it wasn't that long ago that they weren't even playing European football

Dobbo is very well educated and well brought up. I know he loves playing for Charlton and would expect this situation to be sorted in our favour.