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  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,037
    Looks like @cazo has taken up the CL allocation!! Well done mate 👏🏻👏🏻

    Worst month for me in a long time. £25 on a full holding. 
  • cazo
    cazo Posts: 1,483
    edited April 2024

  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,591
    Well done Cazo, nice to see a few £5k's recently.

  • cafctom
    cafctom Posts: 11,357
    £150 for me.

  • Jon_CAFC_
    Jon_CAFC_ Posts: 563
    £200 for me. Well done Cazo epic result 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,239
    Nothing for me, wife pulled in another oner
  • superclive98
    superclive98 Posts: 4,766
    Only £50 for me and £125 for the wife. Been a relatively quiet few months after a really good 2023.
  • £175 for both me and the missus. Friend won £1,150. 
  • Re premium bonds if you have the maximum holding when you win do you have to take your winnings or are you allowed to revest
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,591
    Re premium bonds if you have the maximum holding when you win do you have to take your winnings or are you allowed to revest
    If you have the maximum £50k you can only take the winnings.
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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    edited April 2024
    Again... wish this didn't bother me... posting winnings amounts without stating amount held makes it impossible to understand significance of data

    It's great some people have started stating if it's a full holding.... thanks for mellowing my discomfort :)

    Looks like £125 a month is the least you'd expect on average with that for it to be competitive with an above average easy access account 

    Deffo well done cazo,  eh!
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    Again... wish this didn't bother me... posting winnings amounts without stating amount held makes it impossible to understand significance of data

    It's great some people have started stating if it's a full holding.... thanks for mellowing my discomfort :)

    Looks like £125 a month is the least you'd expect on average with that for it to be competitive with an above average easy access account 

    Deffo well done cazo,  eh!
    £0 for me and Margaret despite £75k holding
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 51,958
    (Without checking) the equivalent rate of return has dropped a bit in recent months, but the majority of our winnings (me included) has fallen off a cliff.
    It doesn't seem right to me.
  • Buglehorn
    Buglehorn Posts: 1,002
    £25 for me this month 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,604
    Seems like PB winnings have really taken a dive this month. I cashed mine in late last year when I moved so I now have no skin in the game, but if they continue this poor return I might have to be recommending a better home for this money 😉. 
  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,561
    (Without checking) the equivalent rate of return has dropped a bit in recent months, but the majority of our winnings (me included) has fallen off a cliff.
    It doesn't seem right to me.
    It does look suspicious when we all seem to be having less than ‘average’ luck!
  • hmmoore
    hmmoore Posts: 125
    £125 here, full holding.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,037
    The average interest rate used to calculate the Premium Bond prize pot dropped from a high of 4.65% (from September) to 4.40% in March. The odds of a win, per £1 bond remained the same at 21,000-1.  

    The number of prizes went up in March, but these were all at the £25 level with every other level reducing. 
  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,591
    FWIW:

    Mrs R7L max holding and has for a number of years, since Jan 22 has won £3,950
    Me, started dropping down holding over the last 18 months, now about £25k, since Jan 22 £2,050
    Daughter, about £26k, since Jan 22 has won £7,350 (that includes one big win of £5k).

    Some people are more lucky than others!
  • Rob7Lee said:
    FWIW:

    Mrs R7L max holding and has for a number of years, since Jan 22 has won £3,950
    Me, started dropping down holding over the last 18 months, now about £25k, since Jan 22 £2,050
    Daughter, about £26k, since Jan 22 has won £7,350 (that includes one big win of £5k).

    Some people are more lucky than others!
    To be fair, you guys are pretty lucky to have that king of money to invest in anything other than a house! The wins are a lovely bonus. Enjoy. 


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  • Rob7Lee
    Rob7Lee Posts: 9,591
    Rob7Lee said:
    FWIW:

    Mrs R7L max holding and has for a number of years, since Jan 22 has won £3,950
    Me, started dropping down holding over the last 18 months, now about £25k, since Jan 22 £2,050
    Daughter, about £26k, since Jan 22 has won £7,350 (that includes one big win of £5k).

    Some people are more lucky than others!
    To be fair, you guys are pretty lucky to have that king of money to invest in anything other than a house! The wins are a lovely bonus. Enjoy. 


    35+ years at work and a lot of saving! But yes, appreciate I am fortunate.
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    Is this right? I have just received a letter from Virgin returning money to me as I had opened a 2nd cash ISA in the tax year. I had opened a fixed rate ISA in January for £5k. I then opened a 2nd with them in March. They have returned this latter money.
    I had always been under the impression that you can only use one provider but CAN do it in stages. Seems I'm wrong. 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,604
    redman said:
    Is this right? I have just received a letter from Virgin returning money to me as I had opened a 2nd cash ISA in the tax year. I had opened a fixed rate ISA in January for £5k. I then opened a 2nd with them in March. They have returned this latter money.
    I had always been under the impression that you can only use one provider but CAN do it in stages. Seems I'm wrong. 
    I would have to go into the one you originally opened. You can not have 2 ISA's of the same ilk in the same tax year. Even if it's with the same provider.
  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,266
    edited April 2024
    Rob7Lee said:
    jamescafc said:
    Early retirement soon @Rob7Lee

    I’m currently obsessed with the whole FIRE planning and spend a fair amount of time reading up on the various strategies people are using, but you are right, regular contributions plus compound interest is a game changer
    I always said mid 50's, but having changed jobs in 2020 and took a bit of a step back in responsibilities hours etc (although that seems to be creeping back upwards!) I'm enjoying work more than I have in probably 15-20 years. So no plans just yet, but I'll review at 55 and will likely do a more reduced hours at least. 

    FIRE is fine, just don't take it too far.

    My very simple financial advice has always been, if you can (as at the lower earnings end or at certain times in your life it's not always possible) live your life as if your salary is 80% of what it really is.

    So that means living to that, to include savings and pensions, everything. The extra 20% is your extra investments/savings. I've been doing that broadly since my early to mid 30's and is a large reason I am where I am.

    Conversely I have worked with people earning 3/4/5/10x what I do so some well into the millions who are literally cash and investment poor. All they do is spend to their limit and a bit more. £250k cars, £100k on holidays a year, mostly stuff that devalues.

    Imagine you earned £2m a year and couldn't live as if you earned £1.6m! With that extra £200k net invested after 10 years and growth at about 8% you'd have approaching £3m.

    Some people will always live to or beyond their means. I've literally know people earning £80k who have more investments and wealth than people earning £1m.

    Basically just be sensible, save what you can, watch what you spend, and let compound do it's job.

    Usually agree with much of what you say and whilst I appreciate that this is a thread on investments, to me a holiday never "devalues". Life is about memories, you can't take the cash with you.  I would spend £100K on holidays every year if I could afford it.  They are the best of times and best of memories.

    I took the family for 9 weeks to Asia last year with 2 young children. Memories that will last my life time and theirs.

    In monetary terms it cost a lot and meant I had to take unpaid leave but I was lucky enough that as a one off I could afford it (partially through one small "investment" with Paddy power)!  The holiday was undoubtedly the best investment decision I have ever made.

    One of my best friends from school has spent most of his adult life travelling the world and doing cash jobs to get along on a tiny budget.  He has lived in more countries than I care to remember and visited much of the planet, met tonnes of people and lived an incredible life.  He will never have a family (doesn't want one), and will likely die at a relatively young age given the life choices he makes (I'm surprised he has made it to 46!) but I know he wouldn't change a single piece of it and has accepted that if he lives to a good age he will be potless at the end of it but have spent his "good" years living his best life (sorry, awful phrase!).
  • bobmunro
    bobmunro Posts: 20,840
    edited April 2024
    Rob7Lee said:
    jamescafc said:
    Early retirement soon @Rob7Lee

    I’m currently obsessed with the whole FIRE planning and spend a fair amount of time reading up on the various strategies people are using, but you are right, regular contributions plus compound interest is a game changer
    I always said mid 50's, but having changed jobs in 2020 and took a bit of a step back in responsibilities hours etc (although that seems to be creeping back upwards!) I'm enjoying work more than I have in probably 15-20 years. So no plans just yet, but I'll review at 55 and will likely do a more reduced hours at least. 

    FIRE is fine, just don't take it too far.

    My very simple financial advice has always been, if you can (as at the lower earnings end or at certain times in your life it's not always possible) live your life as if your salary is 80% of what it really is.

    So that means living to that, to include savings and pensions, everything. The extra 20% is your extra investments/savings. I've been doing that broadly since my early to mid 30's and is a large reason I am where I am.

    Conversely I have worked with people earning 3/4/5/10x what I do so some well into the millions who are literally cash and investment poor. All they do is spend to their limit and a bit more. £250k cars, £100k on holidays a year, mostly stuff that devalues.

    Imagine you earned £2m a year and couldn't live as if you earned £1.6m! With that extra £200k net invested after 10 years and growth at about 8% you'd have approaching £3m.

    Some people will always live to or beyond their means. I've literally know people earning £80k who have more investments and wealth than people earning £1m.

    Basically just be sensible, save what you can, watch what you spend, and let compound do it's job.

    Usually agree with much of what you say and whilst I appreciate that this is a thread on investments, to me a holiday never "devalues". Life is about memories, you can't take the cash with you.  I would spend £100K on holidays every year if I could afford it.  They are the best of times and best of memories.

    I took the family for 9 weeks to Asia last year with 2 young children. Memories that will last my life time and theirs.

    In monetary terms it cost a lot and meant I had to take unpaid leave but I was lucky enough that as a one off I could afford it (partially through one small "investment" with Paddy power)!  The holiday was undoubtedly the best investment decision I have ever made.

    One of my best friends from school has spent most of his adult life travelling the world and doing cash jobs to get along on a tiny budget.  He has lived in more countries than I care to remember and visited much of the planet, met tonnes of people and lived an incredible life.  He will never have a family (doesn't want one), and will likely die at a relatively young age given the life choices he makes (I'm surprised he has made it to 46!) but I know he wouldn't change a single piece of it and has accepted that if he lives to a good age he will be potless at the end of it but have spent his "good" years living his best life (sorry, awful phrase!).

    Absolutely spot on.

    Our boys get the property - my missus and I spend ALL the money!
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,216
    Anybody piling in on ‘Truth Social’ stock  ;)
  • red10
    red10 Posts: 833
    No kids, so leave the house in the will to the beneficiarys BUT want the last cheque I write to bounce.

  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,842
    Chaz Hill said:
    Anybody piling in on ‘Truth Social’ stock  ;)
    Wanted to short it but because it is structured through a SPAC (very clever), the short position is costing roughly 500% a year....

    The bubble will obviously burst but it will cost a tonne to get there! Shame
  • redman
    redman Posts: 5,285
    redman said:
    Is this right? I have just received a letter from Virgin returning money to me as I had opened a 2nd cash ISA in the tax year. I had opened a fixed rate ISA in January for £5k. I then opened a 2nd with them in March. They have returned this latter money.
    I had always been under the impression that you can only use one provider but CAN do it in stages. Seems I'm wrong. 
    I would have to go into the one you originally opened. You can not have 2 ISA's of the same ilk in the same tax year. Even if it's with the same provider.
    Thanks for the confirmation. My mistake. (cost me £30 in lost interest).
  • Chaz Hill
    Chaz Hill Posts: 5,216
    Huskaris said:
    Chaz Hill said:
    Anybody piling in on ‘Truth Social’ stock  ;)
    Wanted to short it but because it is structured through a SPAC (very clever), the short position is costing roughly 500% a year....

    The bubble will obviously burst but it will cost a tonne to get there! Shame
    Good try but need to get up very early to benefit from anything Trump is connected with.