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Dani Alves (must see)

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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    From Hero to Zero:

    No one is above the law and Alves has 4 years or however long he now has to serve to ponder how he has ruined his 20 year reputation as one of the most successful players to being remembered as a Rapist.

    I hope the young women can find strength in the verdict and has good family and friends to support her.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 5,970
    I think he’s going to appeal so could well do a Ched Evans.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    How do we know it was more than one woman? Story says one.
  • thenewbie
    thenewbie Posts: 11,000
    JaShea99 said:
    How do we know it was more than one woman? Story says one.
    I don't think anyone has said otherwise?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    Someone above did.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,330
    JaShea99 said:
    Someone above did.
    I think soapbox sam posted "women" instead of "woman", by mistake 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,555
    JaShea99 said:
    How do we know it was more than one woman? Story says one.
    Does it matter. One is one too many.
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    What a weird thing to say. Who on earth would ever dispute that one is too many?
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    soapboxsam said:
    From Hero to Zero:

    No one is above the law and Alves has 4 years or however long he now has to serve to ponder how he has ruined his 20 year reputation as one of the most successful players to being remembered as a Rapist.

    I hope the young woman can find strength in the verdict and has good family and friends to support her.


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  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    Chizz said:
    JaShea99 said:
    Someone above did.
    I think soapbox sam posted "women" instead of "woman", by mistake 

    Cheers Chizz.
    Now edited.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Be nice to remove the "must see" from the thread title!
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,330
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    I don't.

    I'm not wholly convinced in the validity of his convicton and he maintains his innocence to this day.
  • MrLargo
    MrLargo Posts: 7,989
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    He's had loads of tv and film appearances post conviction - The Hangover, Rocky Balboa, Law & Order, How I Met Your Mother, etc. Film and tv producers don't put people in films and on tv programmes when the public think of them primarily as a rapist. I doubt most people below the age of 35 even know he's got a rape conviction. 

    Compare that to, using an extreme example, Gary Glitter - he has effectively been deleted from history in relation to everything except being paedophile. His records will never be played again and he'll never be invited to appear on any television or radio programme ever again.
  • mendonca
    mendonca Posts: 9,405
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    Do you immediately think that when you hear the name Mike Tyson mentioned @Chizz?
  • Karim_myBagheri
    Karim_myBagheri Posts: 12,691
    edited February 2024
    Couldn't stand him as a player. He was good and a solid member of very good teams Barca and Brazil, but his antics made me really dislike him. However the most disturbing thing about this is that a few comments on here have suggested he's good looking?!. Bloke looks like a roughed up extra for a cartel member in a bad netflix series. 
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,330
    mendonca said:
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    Do you immediately think that when you hear the name Mike Tyson mentioned @Chizz?
    You mean the convicted rapist Mike Tyson? Yes, if someone mentions Mike Tyson, the convicted rapist, I usually think of the term 'rapist', before I think 'former boxer', 'actor' or 'subject of Tyson vs. Jaws: Rumble on the Reef - Sharkmania'.  

    In the same way that 'author' and 'competent artist' are way down the list of immediate thoughts when I think of 'Adolf Hitler'.  
  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,827
    edited February 2024
    .
  • cafcdave123
    cafcdave123 Posts: 11,491
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    That is exactly what I’m suggesting, same with 2pac
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  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,456
    Tupac’s charge wasn’t rape though and anyone with half a brain cell could see he was innocent.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    Michael Jackson and "nonce"?
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    edited February 2024
    Chizz said:
    mendonca said:
    Chizz said:
    cafcdave123 said:
    cafcfan said:
    One of the all-time greats. Now he will only be remembered for one thing.
    Doesn’t always work like that when you’re a rich and popular, just ask Mike Tyson 
    This has confused me a bit. Are you suggesting that most people don't immediately think 'rapist', when someone brings up the subject of Mike Tyson? 
    Do you immediately think that when you hear the name Mike Tyson mentioned @Chizz?
    You mean the convicted rapist Mike Tyson? Yes, if someone mentions Mike Tyson, the convicted rapist, I usually think of the term 'rapist', before I think 'former boxer', 'actor' or 'subject of Tyson vs. Jaws: Rumble on the Reef - Sharkmania'.  

    In the same way that 'author' and 'competent artist' are way down the list of immediate thoughts when I think of 'Adolf Hitler'.  
    I must admit, I (regretfully) forget about that with Tyson most times his name comes up. I do remember you saying you have no problem separating art from an artist a while back, does the same apply to Tyson's artistry as a boxer? 

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