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Dinosaurs and the bible
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This thread is fucking weird1
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Stegosurus/Stegosauri are the best dinosaurs, dont know much about the bible.1
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Velociraptor takes that award I'm afraidRopeYardRails said:Stegosurus/Stegosauri are the best dinosaurs, dont know much about the bible.
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Nahhhhh, Godzilla……..he ate chewits too………a beast!paulie8290 said:
Velociraptor takes that award I'm afraidRopeYardRails said:Stegosurus/Stegosauri are the best dinosaurs, dont know much about the bible.4 -
Currently on suspension, so don't bait him please.Big_Bad_World said:Where's @ValleyOfTears when you need him?
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Maybe there is a God.aliwibble said:
Currently on suspension, so don't bait him please.Big_Bad_World said:Where's @ValleyOfTears when you need him?11 -
Erm...golfaddick said:
Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ? Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue !Rizzo said:He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.
"God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."
Very next paragraph:
"A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."
So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then?
The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.
Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along.
Not quite 650 millions years ago. Late Triassic - so about 240 million years ago. 650 million years ago, in the Pre-Camrbrian, we were still at the very earliest stages of complex lifeforms - mainly jellyfish, coral and the extremely early predecessors of arthropods
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Leroy Ambrose said:
Erm...golfaddick said:
Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ? Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue !Rizzo said:He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.
"God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."
Very next paragraph:
"A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."
So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then?
The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.
Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along.
Not quite 650 millions years ago. Late Triassic - so about 240 million years ago. 650 million years ago, in the Pre-Camrbrian, we were still at the very earliest stages of complex lifeforms - mainly jellyfish, coral, palace fans and the extremely early predecessors of arthropods
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He’ll have to do it over the phone, he’s still stuck in PrestonClem_Snide said:I'll give £20 to the Upbeats if @LouisMend asks Nathan Jones for his view at Thursday's press conference.5 -
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I'll have a pop at it. I'm an equal-opportunity ridiculer of religion, although I do reserve my deepest scorn for the Mormons.soapy_jones said:Fascinated by the Bible, which I have concluded is a great history book where the key content can be got to by a robust disreguarding of all the religious stuff.
Quite why mouthpieces get their knickers in a twist over it's mere existance or the fact certain sections of society read more into it than sanity allows, is beyond me.
Move on and have a pop at the Qoran, oh what's that? Don't fancy it?
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Evolution could produce new species and sub species over time certainly but not in the 10,000 years these bible punchers claim is the age of the world.shine166 said:
Evolution?ShootersHillGuru said:We’re discovering new species of insects pretty much every week with estimated thousands if not millions still to discover. How does that square with the bible and the flood. They weren’t saved by Noah so are completely new since the great flood or they survived the deluge which means god fucked up. Quite why I’m engaging with this I have no idea apart from its ridiculousness, I really don’t know. The bible my arse.
Ah shit maybe not3 -
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
Is it, with who? How do they explain cosmic radiation background?ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/1 -
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
Not with the big bounce theory. Cyclic cosmology.Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/
The big bang happened, but over and over again.1 -
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
Without space or time there is no 'there'.Lincsaddick said:
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
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No need to brag mateValleyGary said:
Not with the big bounce theory. Cyclic cosmology.Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/
The big bang happened, but over and over again.14 -
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Crystal Palace claim an early football club of the same name were there and that they gave a connection to the one formed in 1905.Lincsaddick said:
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/3 -
The James Webb telescope is disproving or querying current theory all over the shop! The Big Bang was big BUT perhaps not the only bang. Where it all started, I cannot fathom. In the unlikely circumstance I speak to a Palarse supporter any time soon, i'll ask because no doubt it would of correspondended with their first game...0
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I think Big Bang is still the “established” view but there is increasingly physicists that are questioning it. The theory relies very much on Einstein and his theory of relativity but that alone doesn’t explain the singularity and everything from nothing. For example Michio Kaku theorises that the universe was created by energy in a vacuum.ValleyGary said:
Is it, with who? How do they explain cosmic radiation background?ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
Didn’t Stephen Hawking suggest that before the “big bang” and the creation of all matter and time meaning that time didn’t exist before the Big Bang that there was “imaginary time”Lincsaddick said:
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
Dream time1
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something Hawking imagined or dreamed up .. pure conjecture as is anything relating to before the 'big bang' .. as @ValleyGary says, there have conceivably been untold big bangs going back so far that the human brain is incapable of comprehending it .. as I posted up the page, black holes swallowing galaxies and spitting out new ones, possiblyShootersHillGuru said:
Didn’t Stephen Hawking suggest that before the “big bang” and the creation of all matter and time meaning that time didn’t exist before the Big Bang that there was “imaginary time”Lincsaddick said:
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/0 -
It isn't. There was some debate around the time the JWST started finding galaxies that were from so early on that it called into question long-held understanding of the universe in its early stages, but these have subsequently been explained. The popular press, predictably, picked up on this and ran with it under its usual thinly-veiled veneer of contempt for 'boffins' (because that sells papers and clicks), but were strangely far more reticent to print the explanations and contractions published subsequently.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/could-an-industrial-prehuman-civilization-have-existed-on-earth-before-ours/4 -
Imaginary time is a very serious theory and hardly “dreamed up”. The concept is used in mathematical equations although don’t ask me how.Lincsaddick said:
something Hawking imagined or dreamed up .. pure conjecture as is anything relating to before the 'big bang' .. as @ValleyGary says, there have conceivably been untold big bangs going back so far that the human brain is incapable of comprehending it .. as I posted up the page, black holes swallowing galaxies and spitting out new ones, possiblyShootersHillGuru said:
Didn’t Stephen Hawking suggest that before the “big bang” and the creation of all matter and time meaning that time didn’t exist before the Big Bang that there was “imaginary time”Lincsaddick said:
so, what was 'there' before ?Chizz said:
One. On the basis that the Big Bang is the moment at which both space and time were bright into existence. Therefore it can have happened only once.ShootersHillGuru said:
The Big Bang is a theory that is starting to fall out of favour.Lincsaddick said:
it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note pleaseCharltonMadrid said:Anyone heard of the Silurian hypothesis? That's even more mind boggling.
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Dinosaurs, or at least creatures which resemble them, seem to be mentioned in Hindu scriptures.0
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there are still dinosaur related species about today, certainly birds and possibly crocodiles .. there are quite a few large Asian, African, South American reptiles usually living in remote areas that are possibly descended from dinosaurs .. the very word 'dinosaur' comes from two Greek words, deinos (terrible) and sauros = lizardCharltonMadrid said:Dinosaurs, or at least creatures which resemble them, seem to be mentioned in Hindu scriptures.0
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