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Dinosaurs and the bible

We went on a guided tour around the Crystal Palace dinosaurs yesterday. So today, I was checking on a few things and came across this: https://www.morrowcountysentinel.com/2018/07/22/pastor-column-bible-tells-truth-about-dinosaurs/#

This raises at least two questions in my mind. First, what sort of a lunatic is this pastor?  Second, how can this newspaper make any claim to serious journalism?
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  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,467
    edited February 2024
    "If we accept evolution’s explanation of dinosaurs, we are forced to believe that death is not the result of sin."

    "
    If we accept what evolution says about dinosaurs, then the Bible cannot be our authority. It cannot be trusted."

    Err, yeah!
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,355
    Didn't realise they did guided tours around there, live just down the road and often walk through in the summer, dinosaurs were looking a bit bruised and battered last time I went a few months ago
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,678
    edited February 2024
    We’ve learned a lot about dinosaurs over the last twenty years or so and reading the bible for information and advice about anything is completely futile. As for pastor Anthony Conchel, I’m surprised he has the intelligence to do up his shirt buttons.
  • cafcfan
    cafcfan Posts: 11,234
    That was very funny thank you for sharing.
  • CafcWest
    CafcWest Posts: 6,231
    edited February 2024
    We’ve learned a lot about dinosaurs over the last twenty years or so and reading the bible for information and advice about anything is completely futile. As for pastor Anthony Conchel, I’m surprised he has the intelligence to do up his shirt buttons.
    Have read the article.  Crazy stuff.  Anthony Conchel is the reporter - I think it was actually written by Pastor Stephen Howard (mentioned at the bottom).  How anyone can take the old testament (and even the new for that matter) as literal is crazy.  Most of the Bible is written in metahor and hundreds of years after events are supposed to have happened.
  • mr.se7
    mr.se7 Posts: 274
    Thought this was going to be about a new indie rock band.
  • MuttleyCAFC
    MuttleyCAFC Posts: 47,823
    It is a good example how belief can overrule logic and indeed facts. I used to work with a 7th Day Adventist many years ago. A few of us used to have the odd lunchtime discussion and he believed there were no dinosaurs and the bones found were just those of big people arranged to look like dinosaurs by evil scientists. He believed it with a passion and could not be swayed.
  • Didn't realise they did guided tours around there, live just down the road and often walk through in the summer, dinosaurs were looking a bit bruised and battered last time I went a few months ago
    Look up the CP park trust and the friends of CP dinosaurs. You should see when they are doing the next talk. 
  • Rizzo
    Rizzo Posts: 6,467
    edited February 2024
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 

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  • CafcWest said:
    We’ve learned a lot about dinosaurs over the last twenty years or so and reading the bible for information and advice about anything is completely futile. As for pastor Anthony Conchel, I’m surprised he has the intelligence to do up his shirt buttons.
    Have read the article.  Crazyb stuff.  Anthony Conchel is the reporter - I think it was actually written by Pastor Stephen Howard (mentioned at the bottom).  How anyone can take the old testament (and even the new for that matter) as literal is crazy.  Most of the Bible is written in metahor and hundreds of years after events are supposed to have happened.
    Keep hearing it’s a metaphor but it’s actually just bollox.
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,464
    Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next sentence:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Noah: God? 
    God: (in a big voice) Yes, Noah? 
    Noah: I just have a question 
    God: What is it? 
    Noah: Well, far be it from me to cast aspertions on your all-knowing beneficence and all-round diligence, but there's an issue that's been troubling me 
    God: Go on... 
    Noah: Well, you suggested I build a fleet of Arks, which, as you have been able to see (being an omiscient being) I've done. 
    God: Yes.  And what a good job you've made.  I am very impressed.  Me knows how you did it so quickly, what with all this weather we've been having. 
    Noah: Yes, well, I followed your instructions as closely as I could.  Although, to be honest, I was never really sure how big a cubit is, so there's been a bit of guesswork. 
    God: Well, as I said you have done a good job.  What did you want to ask?  
    Noah: Well, again, as you have seen, I built them all out of gopher wood. 
    God: Yes..? 
    Noah: I mean, it's an interesting choice.  Bugger to carve, strong as anything but, most importantly, it floats.  I am very pleased.  
    God: So, what's the question? 
    Noah: I am getting there.  These ships look fantastic.  They could have been made of iron, if we'd waited unil the Iron Age, which by my estimation is in a few weeks' time.  But, no, you've decided that life on earth will thrive only on the basis that the ships, in which two of everything are berthed, will be made of...wood. 
    God: Yes? 
    Noah: Two of everything 
    God: Yes, that's right.  One of each gender, so that the world can be populated once the waters recede.  
    Noah: Everything? 
    God: Yes..? 
    Noah: Well... (exasperated)... I have done that.  Without question.  Aardvarks to zone-tailed pigeons.  Two of each.  All tucked away in their own little corners of the wooden Ark fleet.  
    God: So, what's the question? 
    Noah: What the fuck do you want me to do with the woodworms? 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493
    edited February 2024
    Raquel Welch walked the earth with dinosaurs .. so it MUST be true Raquel Welch One Million Years BC Repro Film POSTER - Picture 1 of 1
  • We’re discovering new species of insects pretty much every week with estimated thousands if not millions still to discover. How does that square with the bible and the flood. They weren’t saved by Noah so are completely new since the great flood or they survived the deluge which means god fucked up. Quite why I’m engaging with this I have no idea apart from its ridiculousness, I really don’t know. The bible my arse.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 34,343
    Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ?  Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue ! 

    The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.

    Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along. 
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,275
    It is a good example how belief can overrule logic and indeed facts. I used to work with a 7th Day Adventist many years ago. A few of us used to have the odd lunchtime discussion and he believed there were no dinosaurs and the bones found were just those of big people arranged to look like dinosaurs by evil scientists. He believed it with a passion and could not be swayed.
    Try working with a Islamic looney, they really are a laugh a minute!
  • SID
    SID Posts: 273
    Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    One look at a couple of Brontosaurus and it all went “we need a bigger boat”. 
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,526
    Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ?  Bloody tricky I tell you.  
    And they don't take kindly to having their genetials checked either I would guess.

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  • Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ?  Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue ! 

    The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.

    Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along. 
    245 to 65 million years ago, but who’s counting?
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,995
    We’re discovering new species of insects pretty much every week with estimated thousands if not millions still to discover. How does that square with the bible and the flood. They weren’t saved by Noah so are completely new since the great flood or they survived the deluge which means god fucked up. Quite why I’m engaging with this I have no idea apart from its ridiculousness, I really don’t know. The bible my arse.
    Evolution?

    Ah shit maybe not 
  • Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ?  Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue ! 

    The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.

    Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along. 
    Mike Rutherford is not going to be too happy with you...

    Carefully crafted musical excellence.
  • Rizzo said:
    He can't even keep his story straight in one short article.

    "God told Noah, “And of every living thing of all flesh, two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark, to keep them alive with thee; they shall be male and female” (Genesis 6:19)."

    Very next paragraph:

    "A few small dinosaurs would have been on the ark. The larger species of dinosaurs were probably young and smaller on the ark. The rest of dinosaurs on earth were destroyed in the flood."

    So Noah just decided that God didn't mean that bit about two of EVERY sort then? 
    Have you tried catching a couple of Tyrannosaurus Rex ?  Bloody tricky I tell you. David's brother Richard tried and nearly got his hand bitten off. Only saved when Jeff Goldblum came to his rescue ! 

    The bible is basically a lot of stories. The Christ bit I can understand & believe a lot of it is true. But the OT, especially Genesis, are merely stories, probably made up to get the kids to get to sleep.

    Dinosaurs were around 650 million years ago. Way way way before humans came along. 
    Mike Rutherford is not going to be too happy with you...

    Carefully crafted musical excellence.
    Jesus he knows me and he knows I’m right.
    Been talking to Jesus, all my life.

    Thats all.
  • Where's @ValleyOfTears when you need him?
  • The DUP are the political wing of the Old Testament and don’t believe in dinosaurs.
  • TelMc32
    TelMc32 Posts: 9,164
    The DUP are the political wing of the Old Testament and don’t believe in dinosaurs.
    They should try looking in the mirror!  
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,452
    Fascinated by the Bible, which I have concluded is a great history book where the key content can be got to by a robust disreguarding of all the religious stuff.
    Quite why mouthpieces get their knickers in a twist over it's mere existance or the fact certain sections of society read more into it than sanity allows, is beyond me. 

    Move on and have a pop at the Qoran, oh what's that? Don't fancy it?

    Love dinosaurs though.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,493
    edited February 2024
    it's not totally beyond belief .. how many big bangs have taken place over uncountable time .. how many black holes have swallowed massive galaxies and then spat out new ones ? .. answers on a fifty pound note please