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Addicks Players - The Valiant 1016 - V1015 James BREE, V1016 Reece BURKE (p44)

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  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,333
    Rothko said:
    So we're hitting 1000 some point next season then?
    Yep, and you just know it will be a young lad who gets his only appearance ever in the Pizza Cup. Mind you, it will be a good quiz question in a few years.
  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,117
    Exeter was my 1st thought and come in 2nd with 25 1 less than the top team. Middlesbrough and Millwall both done the list with 13 & 12.
  • shirty5
    shirty5 Posts: 19,218
    First game of a new season normally helps so Brentford 
  • Carl Leaburn
    Carl Leaburn Posts: 1,117
    To put everyone out of their misery the list of top teams is
    Brentford - 26
    Exeter - 25
    Bournemouth depending how you count them - 24 (Bournemouth 15 + Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic 9)
    Sunderland - 21
    Huddersfield - 20
    Luton - 20
    Norwich - 20
    Bolton - 19
    Portsmouth - 19
    Birmingham - 18
    Forest - 18
    Wednesday - 18

    Full list could be provided if required
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    Yeah I'd expect the 1000th to be someone in a BSM Trophy game against an U21 side. Assuming we've still got more signings to come in this window + the summer and with REG being 984. 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    Carl Leaburn said:
    To put everyone out of their misery the list of top teams is
    Brentford - 26
    Exeter - 25
    Bournemouth depending how you count them - 24 (Bournemouth 15 + Bournemouth & Boscombe Athletic 9)
    Sunderland - 21
    Huddersfield - 20
    Luton - 20
    Norwich - 20
    Bolton - 19
    Portsmouth - 19
    Birmingham - 18
    Forest - 18
    Wednesday - 18

    Full list could be provided if required
    Great work.

    Will be stealing this for the museum's social media account.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    edited February 2024
    V985
    Kayne RAMSAY
    03/02/2024 v Derby County (H)
    Substitute for Macaully Gillesphey  (68 minutes)
    League 1
    Curtis Fleming
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    edited February 2024
    Hopefully doing this now won't mean he gets injured in the warm up
    V986
    Thierry SMALL
    17/02/2024 v Bolton Wanderers (A)
    Scored 22nd min
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,946
    How many have scored on debut, I wonder?
  • LenGlover
    LenGlover Posts: 31,651
    North Lower Neil said:
    How many have scored on debut, I wonder?
    A fair few over the years.
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  • cantersaddick
    cantersaddick Posts: 16,907
    North Lower Neil said:
    How many have scored on debut, I wonder?
    More than 3 I'd guess.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    77 iirc but @shirty5 will know
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    V987 likely to be Connor Wickham
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,844
    Rothko said:
    So we're hitting 1000 some point next season then?
    August would be my guess
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,030
    I'd guess the 1000th will be someone in the first Bristol Street Motors Trophy game off the bench. 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    edited March 2024
    V987
    Connor WICKHAM
    09/03/2024 v Carlisle Utd (H)
    Substitute for Karoy Anderson (72mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,276
    V988
    Kazenga LUALUA
    16/03/2024 v Fleetwood Town (A)
    Substitute for Daniel Kanu (90+1mins)
    League 1
    Nathan Jones
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,033
    I really hope number 1,000 is a good player for us, not some atrocious loan signing. 
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    se9addick said:
    I really hope number 1,000 is a good player for us, not some atrocious loan signing. 
    And undoubtedly, the 1,000 player makes his debut for us next season. 
     

  • Fortune 82nd Minute
    Fortune 82nd Minute Posts: 8,337
    Oggy Red said:
    se9addick said:
    I really hope number 1,000 is a good player for us, not some atrocious loan signing. 
    And undoubtedly, the 1,000 player makes his debut for us next season. 
     

    At the rate we are giving debuts this season, it may come quicker than that ! :-)
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  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,844
    edited March 2024

    1,000 could well be the first game of next season
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,219
    edited March 2024
    se9addick said:
    I really hope number 1,000 is a good player for us, not some atrocious loan signing. 

    Que sera sera

  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,616
    The 1000th is probably now only a few months away and we could be looking at it happen around September. It would be nice if it was an academy player and, to make sure that happens, that it may have to occur during an EFL cup match and we all turn up for it to mark the event.

  • guinnessaddick
    guinnessaddick Posts: 28,609
    67 years for the first 500, 36 years if it’s this year, the 1500th in less than 20 years?
  • letthegoodtimesroll
    letthegoodtimesroll Posts: 10,616
    guinnessaddick said:
    67 years for the first 500, 36 years if it’s this year, the 1500th in less than 20 years?
    25 or more new players making their debut every season ? Probably not
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,841
    I was looking at a recent matchday programme at the players season stats, and I could barely read it as the font was so small to squeeze them all in   :D This season has been ludicrous, with :-

    "Deadwood" appearing before being sold or loaned out, e.g. Kirk, DJ, McGrandles, Payne

    Loan players who hardly played, e.g. Abankwah, Fiorini

    Kids thrown in by Appleton, e.g. Casey, Mbick, Rylah, Kedwell. 

    Youngsters only playing briefly before being loaned out or sold, e.g. Mitchell, Chin, Elewere

    Short term signings, e.g. Walker, Wickham, Lua-Lua
  • DyerConsequences
    DyerConsequences Posts: 2,625
    Need to remember that squad sizes are much bigger now. When we started in the football league in 1921/22 we didn't even enter the FA Cup that season, just 42 games. 

    Now we're in the league, 46 games, plus FA Cup, League Cup and EFL Trophy. Also, and this is a big reason the last 500 are going to be much quicker than the first 500 - substitutes. It wasn't until 44 years later we were allowed to use them, and then it was only one. Now we can make 5 every game.

    Last season and now this season again we've used 48 players, a club record.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,954
    DyerConsequences said:
    Need to remember that squad sizes are much bigger now. When we started in the football league in 1921/22 we didn't even enter the FA Cup that season, just 42 games. 

    Now we're in the league, 46 games, plus FA Cup, League Cup and EFL Trophy. Also, and this is a big reason the last 500 are going to be much quicker than the first 500 - substitutes. It wasn't until 44 years later we were allowed to use them, and then it was only one. Now we can make 5 every game.

    Last season and now this season again we've used 48 players, a club record.
    And there's perhaps even a chance the 50th is before the end of this season, if a couple of kids are blooded? 
     

  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,021
    @killerjerrylee I wonder if you could shed a little light on John Bailey (V086) please. I see that your book names him as 'John Hunter BAILEY' and gives his birthplace as Norwood, whereas Colin Cameron's original Valiant 500 names him as 'John Henry BAILEY' from Grays. The last club handbook that I have (21/22) also names him as John Henry. It looks to me that there may have been some confusion in the past over a couple of John Baileys playing football at that time and that John Henry Bailey was actually an inside right who played for Southend, whereas John Hunter Bailey, goalkeeper, is our man. There also seems to be some confusion with both men being listed in different publications as having played for both Sittingbourne and Tilbury (surely, far too much of a coincidence). Is that your understanding? Given that your book contains some fantastic detail about his early life, that appears nowhere else, I've no doubts that your naming is correct, but I wondered where you found the name Hunter from as it doesn't seem to appear in any other publications. Thanks in advance for any advice you can give.
  • killerjerrylee
    killerjerrylee Posts: 726
    Good morning. A lot of my information on John 'Jack' Bailey came from genealogical research via ancestor.com. You are quite correct that there was an inside forward named John Henry Bailey who played for Southend, Sittingbourne and Thames, but he was a different person. The statistics website, ENFA, (English National Football Archive) agrees with my conclusions on this one. I have unearthed more missing identities which will appear in volume 2 of the Valiant 1000 and this is near completion and should be out before the start of next season. I am just tidying it up and adding in the stats from 2023-24. 

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