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  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,135
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
  • follett
    follett Posts: 1,062
    edited February 2024
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
  • GetYerCoreyOut
    GetYerCoreyOut Posts: 302
    follett said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack
    There's not many strikers in league 1 that can compete with Chuck' holdup play. 
  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,882
    Leuth said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
    This is the most useful thing about Chuks, the ball often sticks to his feet and he can hold off defenders for long enough for midfielders to join the attack
  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,107
    I get it, it’s a straw to clutch at, but if our only hope is Chucks miraculously being fit for any reasonable period of time to get us out of this mess then we’re essentially relegated. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,404
    Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times
  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,184
    Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,431
    edited February 2024
    Leuth said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
    I give you Macauley Bonne...
  • NabySarr
    NabySarr Posts: 4,397
    edited February 2024
    Chunes said:
    Leuth said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
    I give you Macauley Bonne...
    Bonne isn’t very good, but that’s not a fair description of him. Maybe we didn’t see it as much second time round because he wasn’t fit but Bonne was a hard working striker first time round, always running the channels and putting a shift in 

    In fact, even the second time round he was constantly making runs in behind still. He was just doing it 10 seconds early so was miles offside every time 

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  • fenaddick
    fenaddick Posts: 11,882
    sillav nitram said:
    Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.
    I know you can use certain tapes cleverly to help when muscle is slightly strained but no idea if that would work on a supposed healthy muscle. Tends to be used more on the upper body too 
  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,759
    The long and the short of it is, if Aneke could stay fit he would have had a career at a higher level. Probably mid table premiership. There is a reason he has been skulking round the lower leagues and we all know what it is. Clubs keep taking a chance on him.
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,431
    edited February 2024
    NabySarr said:
    Chunes said:
    Leuth said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
    I give you Macauley Bonne...
    Bonne isn’t very good, but that’s not a fair description of him. Maybe we didn’t see it as much second time round because he wasn’t fit but Bonne was a hard working striker first time round, always running the channels and putting a shift in 

    In fact, even the second time round he was constantly making runs in behind still. He was just doing it 10 seconds early so was miles offside every time 
    It was a joke, but all you've added on to his skills list there is that he can run! 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,906
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
     Chucks creates a lot of chances from passages of play where the ball gets put straight back into our box when he isn't playing. May v blackpool springs to mind
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,788
    When does his contract expire?
  • roseandcrown
    roseandcrown Posts: 7,591
    tangoflash said:
    When does his contract expire?
    2025 I think 
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,906
    Chunes said:
    Leuth said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    This is a myth. Strikers work with midfielders and even defenders to create their own service. Any striker who just waits around for a perfect cross won't make it as a pro footballer
    I give you Macauley Bonne...
    Gary Lineker 
  • tangoflash
    tangoflash Posts: 10,788
    roseandcrown said:
    tangoflash said:
    When does his contract expire?
    2025 I think 
    In one way that's not good that we have another year of paying his medical bills, but looking for a plus side, the last thing we need right now is a half-hearted Chuks worrying about breaking down again, so close to the end of his contract. We need him fully committed to helping us pull away from this nightmare situation we find ourselves in.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,900
    Leuth said:
    Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times
    Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.
  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    What if he breaks out into a sprint (ish) to stay onside?

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  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,838
    Callumcafc said:
    Leuth said:
    Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times
    Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.
    The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .
  • J BLOCK
    J BLOCK Posts: 8,328
    GetYerCoreyOut said:
    follett said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    The thing with Chuks though is you can get away with that. Lump it up to him and he will hold it up and you can start an attack
    There's not many strikers in league 1 that can compete with Chuck' holdup play. 
    There's none in my opinion. The bloke is a game changer and much much better than league One. 
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,224
    Rothko said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Leuth said:
    Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times
    Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.
    The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .
    He's a battering ram against a tiring defense, the absolute mess he made of Stevenage's back four when he came on was something else. 

    He's physical, has a great touch, and can score. We just need to use him in 20/30 minutes bursts 
    This is exactly the right way to use him, the problem is we have to be still in the game (ideally ahead or level, but certainly no more than one goal behind) at the 60 to 70 minute mark.

    Right now, if we're only two goals down by that stage, then we're probably having an abnormally solid game defensively.
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,838
    Rothko said:
    wmcf123 said:
    Callumcafc said:
    Leuth said:
    Get him out there and instruct him to under no circumstances do an extended sprint, even if there's the possibility of a one-on-one. Extended sprints have done his hamstring at least the last two times
    Yep, get him in the line up and fine him a day of wages for each sprint he breaks into. Just put him up front, have him goal hang and let the ball stick to him. That would solve 80% of our problems.
    The ball doesn’t stick to him though.  He’s got  nuisance value and physical presence when he turns up but let’s not pretend his hold up play is that outstanding .  It might be the best in our squad , I’ll give you that .
    He's a battering ram against a tiring defense, the absolute mess he made of Stevenage's back four when he came on was something else. 

    He's physical, has a great touch, and can score. We just need to use him in 20/30 minutes bursts 
    I really contest “great touch”.  A battering ram against a tired defence , yes .  
  • CAFCDAZ
    CAFCDAZ Posts: 1,199
    mendonca said:
    Is it really worth poking predictable fun out of Chuks?

    Our season did start and finish with his appearance. He looked so sharp. 

    As long as his managed properly he will be fine. He just can't play 90 minutes and has to be rotate. The Medical team I believe are aware of what the problem is and how it should be managed, its just whether that is listened to. It seems Appleton chose to ignore the advice from what I understand.
  • usetobunkin
    usetobunkin Posts: 2,206
    sillav nitram said:
    Is there no kind of support that footballers can wear to keep their hamstrings from doing whatever hamstrings do? Similar to knee supports.
    Warming up properly might be a good start. I sit in B Block and watch the routine they laughing call a "warm up".  The stretching routine is almost comical. 


  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,531
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    A lot of people seem to be pinning our hopes on Chuks' return but in recent weeks we could've had Haaland up front and it wouldn't have mattered much because the service into our strikers has been desperately lacking.
    Haaland would win and hold up the ball which would help us create a lot more chances and reduce the number of chances the opposition create.

    It’s amazing we knew for months we needed a physical striker yet they sign Ladapo and wonder why he’s not effective at holding up the ball.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,830
    I don’t think Ladapo is a starter to be honest, again, he’ll be a right pain with 30 to go, but not to get a game going 
  • Isawsummersplay
    Isawsummersplay Posts: 1,430
    Was this not the way Ipswich used him? At the moment, he has not done enough to justify starting a match, whereas Kanu has earned the right to be first choice.

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