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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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I'm sorry what?Callumcafc said:
Sometimes the popular decisions aren’t the right ones to make progress.Addick_8 said:
Because it's safe to say that, that very same Technical Director has made a few mistakes therefore he can be overruled and rightly so.Callumcafc said:
This would set a bad precedent. Why get a technical director in, just to overrule them anyway? Might as well go back to the Sandgaards if people with no football experience are handing out inflated contracts.roseandcrown said:DubaiCAFC said:
Not sure tonight's result will matter.. I wouldn't be surprised to see more than Appleton's head rollRedmidland said:If people are told things in good faith, and then share it, especially if they are told by multiple different sources, then its wrong to shoot the messenger. Let's face it, it wasn't just @DubaiCAFC who said he'd gone and didn't take training, others on here and elsewhere said the same! What transpired after all the reports, I haven't got a clue, I've never been ITK, but to me there's no smoke without fire.
Did the owners overule the SMT?, did MA refuse a mutual agreement? Or were the people who fed info to the different posters being used? I really don't have a clue, however I'm sure info shared was as accurate, at the time.
I do believe if he losses tonight his gone pronto!Interesting, as a rumour I heard at the weekend was AS being overruled on Dobson and a better offer about to be given to him to keep him at the club.
It's not Andy Scott's club.
If we want to continue on with George Dobson being paid as one of the best players at the club, I have very little faith that we’re getting out of this league any time soon.
Speaks volumes to me that he has no rumoured Championship or League One interest. He’s limited.
What progress have we made with Andy Scott's signings? A good example is the Loans, most clubs in the EFL utilise the loan window very well, we probably had one of the worst.
You have no idea who our best-paid player at the club is and if Dobson has requested that (which he hasn't) - Don't go off what Football Manager tells you.
Fans, such as yourself, claimed that Coventry will be better than Dobson when you have seen Coventry play I would say less than 5 times so I think that says it all.
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Start a Dobson thread if you want to argue about Dobson…. It’s exhausting7
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Dreading tonight, expecting another thoroughly depressing match. I hope we can buck the trend and actually get a result, even though the thought of keeping MA is also something to be dreaded.1
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The first two were shockers, this one we need to see how the players perform.Yann897 said:
This window he hasn’t though, so hopefully he’s learning .ElfsborgAddick said:
So far, Scott has been as useful as a chocolate teapot.Callumcafc said:
This would set a bad precedent. Why get a technical director in, just to overrule them anyway? Might as well go back to the Sandgaards if people with no football experience are handing out inflated contracts.roseandcrown said:DubaiCAFC said:
Not sure tonight's result will matter.. I wouldn't be surprised to see more than Appleton's head rollRedmidland said:If people are told things in good faith, and then share it, especially if they are told by multiple different sources, then its wrong to shoot the messenger. Let's face it, it wasn't just @DubaiCAFC who said he'd gone and didn't take training, others on here and elsewhere said the same! What transpired after all the reports, I haven't got a clue, I've never been ITK, but to me there's no smoke without fire.
Did the owners overule the SMT?, did MA refuse a mutual agreement? Or were the people who fed info to the different posters being used? I really don't have a clue, however I'm sure info shared was as accurate, at the time.
I do believe if he losses tonight his gone pronto!Interesting, as a rumour I heard at the weekend was AS being overruled on Dobson and a better offer about to be given to him to keep him at the club.
Also, rumours are he did not get on with Holden and relations with Appleton are iffy.0 -
I think it makes sense to cross that bridge when we get to it, I for one am not looking forward to continuing this circus without Dobson. Let's fix the clown car bit before we start getting rid of our best players.Rothko said:
The issue isn't that Dobson isn't good, but he's looked good in a team that's pretty much been on the back foot for 3 years, and fans will always love a midfielder who flies into tackles when the team is struggling.seth plum said:Thank goodness for a limited Dobson over the last couple of years because he has still been our most consistently best player.
Must mean the others are even more limited.
It's whether he's the right option for a team that's not a constant clown car
People still talk about Ben Purrington and he's not half as good as George Dobson.3 -
It really feels like there is absolutely no way back from here for Appleton regardless of the next few results, can anyone think of any occasions where manager as been at this point so close to the brink then managed to turn it around and go to have success?0
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Fergie almost got fired in his first season at Man UtdCH4RLTON said:It really feels like there is absolutely no way back from here for Appleton regardless of the next few results, can anyone think of any occasions where manager as been at this point so close to the brink then managed to turn it around and go to have success?3 -
It really feels like there is absolutely no way back from here for Appleton regardless of the next few results, can anyone think of any occasions where manager as been at this point so close to the brink then managed to turn it around and go to have success?Alex Ferguson
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Only perhaps the most successful manager in English football history.https://www.planetfootball.com/nostalgia/how-alex-ferguson-saved-himself-from-the-brink-of-the-sack-at-man-utd
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This geezer is no Fergie. Btw any chance of the Covered End Choir singing a new song tonight - The Pretenders ‘Brass in pocket’ with lyrics changed to ‘hands in pocket’. Ok I’ll get my coat (useful as it’s going to be a bit cold tonight).DONVANVLIET said:It really feels like there is absolutely no way back from here for Appleton regardless of the next few results, can anyone think of any occasions where manager as been at this point so close to the brink then managed to turn it around and go to have success?Alex Ferguson4 -
This Fergie geezer is no Busby…Mrkinski said:
This geezer is no Fergie. Btw any chance of the Covered End Choir singing a new song tonight - The Pretenders ‘Brass in pocket’ with lyrics changed to ‘hands in pocket’. Ok I’ll get my coat (useful as it’s going to be a bit cold tonight).DONVANVLIET said:It really feels like there is absolutely no way back from here for Appleton regardless of the next few results, can anyone think of any occasions where manager as been at this point so close to the brink then managed to turn it around and go to have success?Alex Ferguson
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Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all now27
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Mrkinski "This geezer is no Fergie."No, he is Michael Appleton. The question was whether anyone else had turned it round this close to the brink. The answer is a resounding 'YES'!5
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Do the SMT have the knowledge to do that?Rothko said:
yeah agree with this, lining someone up as an instant replacement makes the most sense. Won't be someone in a job, but there are decent options out therePlaaayer said:I personally think that they did make the decision to get rid of him after the game on Saturday, I think they’re just lining up whomever is going to replace him before they pull the trigger, after the amount of shit they got for not having a Holden replacement.Wouldn’t be surprised to see him gone before Saturdays game.
Not think so. Even if they did would you trust them? Don’t think so.0 -
Someone asked the question and people answered.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all now"Tell me someone who's ever turned it around from almost being sacked"*provides famous example*"No not that one, find someone obscure from the third tier!"5 -
Almost 15 years ago, there was a manager in League One who went on a run of 2 wins in 19 games. He was almost sacked by his club but he hung on to his job and the following season he got his team promoted as champions.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all nowHis name is Chris Powell.Is that a more satisfactory answer?7 -
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Alex Ferguson had managed Aberdeen before United and won European cups, League titles and Scottish cups.
Michael Appleton before Charlton has let's see, mustered a 25% win rate at Pompey, 16% at Blackpool, 26% at Blackburn, 24% in his second attempt at Blackpool and now has a 29% at Charlton. A 37% rate overall, gracefully stat padded by his league 2 Oxford side, where it's the only club he's managed more wins than losses.
It's an utterly extreme, and ridiculous comparison. I can't stand that Fergie is used as a benchmark in giving a manager time among football fans, he is a complete exception, one of a kind, and one of, if not the best manager we will ever see.14 -
Any thoughts on Chris Powell being given time after 2 wins in 19?Braziliance said:Alex Ferguson had managed Aberdeen before United and won European cups, League titles and Scottish cups.
Michael Appleton before Charlton has let's see, has mustered a 25% win rate at Pompey, 16% at Blackpool, 26% at Blackburn, 24% in his second attempt at Blackpool and now has a 29% at Charlton. A 37% rate overall, gracefully stat padded by his league 2 Oxford side where it's the only club he's managed more wins than losses.
It's an utterly extreme, and ridiculous comparison. I can't stand that Fergie is used as a benchmark in giving a manager time among football fans, he is a complete exception, one of a kind, and one of, if not the best manager we will ever see.4 -
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Yeah, better footballer and better manager who was and still is an absolute Charlton legend that had a grace period, that he earned with fans so was given time.Callumcafc said:
Any thoughts on Chris Powell being given time after 2 wins in 19?Braziliance said:Alex Ferguson had managed Aberdeen before United and won European cups, League titles and Scottish cups.
Michael Appleton before Charlton has let's see, has mustered a 25% win rate at Pompey, 16% at Blackpool, 26% at Blackburn, 24% in his second attempt at Blackpool and now has a 29% at Charlton. A 37% rate overall, gracefully stat padded by his league 2 Oxford side where it's the only club he's managed more wins than losses.
It's an utterly extreme, and ridiculous comparison. I can't stand that Fergie is used as a benchmark in giving a manager time among football fans, he is a complete exception, one of a kind, and one of, if not the best manager we will ever see.11 -
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Sorry but that is nonsense.Callumcafc said:
Almost 15 years ago, there was a manager in League One who went on a run of 2 wins in 19 games. He was almost sacked by his club but he hung on to his job and the following season he got his team promoted as champions.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all nowHis name is Chris Powell.Is that a more satisfactory answer?
No-one as far as I am aware ever said Powells role at the club was in danger when he was first appointed.
Wasn't it accepted that he was just going to see that season out and make a decision on who he would keep? (And it didn't take him long to work out not many were worth keeping!)11 -
And was openly critical of his squad in 2010-11, while Appleton is the complete opposite. the sooner he is gone, the betterBraziliance said:
Yeah, better footballer and better manager who was and still is an absolute Charlton legend that had a grace period, that he earned with fans so was given time.Callumcafc said:
Any thoughts on Chris Powell being given time after 2 wins in 19?Braziliance said:Alex Ferguson had managed Aberdeen before United and won European cups, League titles and Scottish cups.
Michael Appleton before Charlton has let's see, has mustered a 25% win rate at Pompey, 16% at Blackpool, 26% at Blackburn, 24% in his second attempt at Blackpool and now has a 29% at Charlton. A 37% rate overall, gracefully stat padded by his league 2 Oxford side where it's the only club he's managed more wins than losses.
It's an utterly extreme, and ridiculous comparison. I can't stand that Fergie is used as a benchmark in giving a manager time among football fans, he is a complete exception, one of a kind, and one of, if not the best manager we will ever see.0 -
I've heard his hands are registered deadly weaponsArsenetatters said:2 -
Fairly sure Airman’s been on here in the past and said that Jimenez had to be talked out of sacking him…Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Sorry but that is nonsense.Callumcafc said:
Almost 15 years ago, there was a manager in League One who went on a run of 2 wins in 19 games. He was almost sacked by his club but he hung on to his job and the following season he got his team promoted as champions.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all nowHis name is Chris Powell.Is that a more satisfactory answer?
No-one as far as I am aware ever said Powells role at the club was in danger when he was first appointed.
Wasn't it accepted that he was just going to see that season out and make a decision on who he would keep? (And it didn't take him long to work out not many were worth keeping!)4 -
He was also wanted by 99% of the fan base. Appletons appointment was always flying in the face of the fan base, it's not the reason his position is being speculated on but he would have had to produce a superb run of results to make even a dent in the negativity surrounding his appointment. The loss of Leaburn and Chuks simply hurried the inevitable.Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Sorry but that is nonsense.Callumcafc said:
Almost 15 years ago, there was a manager in League One who went on a run of 2 wins in 19 games. He was almost sacked by his club but he hung on to his job and the following season he got his team promoted as champions.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all nowHis name is Chris Powell.Is that a more satisfactory answer?
No-one as far as I am aware ever said Powells role at the club was in danger when he was first appointed.
Wasn't it accepted that he was just going to see that season out and make a decision on who he would keep? (And it didn't take him long to work out not many were worth keeping!)0 -
Powell did win his first four games, which is context, as is that awful 2010/11 squad. He was certainly at risk in the spring of 2011.Callumcafc said:
Fairly sure Airman’s been on here in the past and said that Jimenez had to be talked out of sacking him…Fortune 82nd Minute said:
Sorry but that is nonsense.Callumcafc said:
Almost 15 years ago, there was a manager in League One who went on a run of 2 wins in 19 games. He was almost sacked by his club but he hung on to his job and the following season he got his team promoted as champions.DDOUBLEE said:Michael Appleton being compared with SAF 😂😂😂 absolutely seen it all nowHis name is Chris Powell.Is that a more satisfactory answer?
No-one as far as I am aware ever said Powells role at the club was in danger when he was first appointed.
Wasn't it accepted that he was just going to see that season out and make a decision on who he would keep? (And it didn't take him long to work out not many were worth keeping!)1 -
Did Powell have a managerial history of poor performance and low win rates leading to sackings?Callumcafc said:
Any thoughts on Chris Powell being given time after 2 wins in 19?Braziliance said:Alex Ferguson had managed Aberdeen before United and won European cups, League titles and Scottish cups.
Michael Appleton before Charlton has let's see, has mustered a 25% win rate at Pompey, 16% at Blackpool, 26% at Blackburn, 24% in his second attempt at Blackpool and now has a 29% at Charlton. A 37% rate overall, gracefully stat padded by his league 2 Oxford side where it's the only club he's managed more wins than losses.
It's an utterly extreme, and ridiculous comparison. I can't stand that Fergie is used as a benchmark in giving a manager time among football fans, he is a complete exception, one of a kind, and one of, if not the best manager we will ever see.
Appleton is a serial loser and the sooner we're shot the better.29
