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Louie Watson - Feb 2025 signed for Crawley til the end of the season (p10)

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  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    edited January 2024
    Louie Watson is our best player after Alfie May. 

    Apologies to any remaining members of the George Dobson fan club, but Watson is the better player. Not that that needs to be a choice for Appleton. Something isn’t right, there’s no way this manager can watch Watson play and decide he shouldn’t be starting games for Charlton. 
    He’s not yet shown that he is as good as the Dobbo that started the season. George was on fire in the earshown that he is as good as the Deebo that started the season. Dubbo was on fire in the early part of the season. 

    Start again: 
    He’s not yet shown that he is as good as the Dobbo that started the season. George was on fire in the early matches. 
    I like Louie though, and think he deserves a start. 

    [That’s better. I was being dragged out of the house to visit Battersea Powerstation, and must have messed up a copy & paste. Or maybe it was the hangover 😩]

  • Kips
    Kips Posts: 689
    JamesSeed said:
    Louie Watson is our best player after Alfie May. 

    Apologies to any remaining members of the George Dobson fan club, but Watson is the better player. Not that that needs to be a choice for Appleton. Something isn’t right, there’s no way this manager can watch Watson play and decide he shouldn’t be starting games for Charlton. 
    He’s not yet shown that he is as good as the Dobbo that started the season. George was on fire in the earshown that he is as good as the Deebo that started the season. Dubbo was on fire in the early part of the season. 
    Someone had a heavy one last night.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,376
    edited January 2024
    JamesSeed said:
    Louie Watson is our best player after Alfie May. 

    Apologies to any remaining members of the George Dobson fan club, but Watson is the better player. Not that that needs to be a choice for Appleton. Something isn’t right, there’s no way this manager can watch Watson play and decide he shouldn’t be starting games for Charlton. 
    He’s not yet shown that he is as good as the Dobbo that started the season. George was on fire in the earshown that he is as good as the Deebo that started the season. Dubbo was on fire in the early part of the season. 
    Thoughts on Dibbo and Dabbo?
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    wmcf123 said:
    Watson can take the ball on the half turn off the defence too , which none of the other midfielders can .
    Exactly 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Kips said:
    JamesSeed said:
    Louie Watson is our best player after Alfie May. 

    Apologies to any remaining members of the George Dobson fan club, but Watson is the better player. Not that that needs to be a choice for Appleton. Something isn’t right, there’s no way this manager can watch Watson play and decide he shouldn’t be starting games for Charlton. 
    He’s not yet shown that he is as good as the Dobbo that started the season. George was on fire in the earshown that he is as good as the Deebo that started the season. Dubbo was on fire in the early part of the season. 
    Someone had a heavy one last night.
    oops. Was a bit of a late one. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,344
    Maybe we've been trying to window Fraser and failed lol
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    fenaddick said:
    Think this might be the real reason behind his exclusion. They want him recalled so they can bring in someone who 'fits the profile.'
  • cabbles
    cabbles Posts: 15,255
    fenaddick said:
    If we’re going to bring in someone better then I don’t necessarily see a problem with it, but, he looked really good in those early games alongside Dobson and how Fraser has been getting games ahead of him is criminal 

    There’s a part of me that wants to believe he, like Tedic and Abankwah just haven’t worked out and we want to send them back because better is on the way, but the more likely outcome is that they were panicked last minute signings by a clueless Scott, and haven’t worked out

    If they all go back, that’s 2 really poor windows now under this lot.  Why would this one be different? 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    If he’s leaving, fine. But why not play him and get points on the board?
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  • If he’s leaving, fine. But why not play him and get points on the board?

    Probably want to see how Asiimwe progresses? Perhaps prefer to play our own player knowing they have a replacement lined up in Jan (wishfull thinking maybe).
    But yes. Think I would have gone for the points. But we don't know what goes on in training.
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,561
    If he’s leaving, fine. But why not play him and get points on the board?

    Probably want to see how Asiimwe progresses? Perhaps prefer to play our own player knowing they have a replacement lined up in Jan (wishfull thinking maybe).
    But yes. Think I would have gone for the points. But we don't know what goes on in training.
    Nor does Appleton.
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,035
    Would be very disappointed if he did go back. But I can understand it from Luton's perspective if there was agreements about how much he played 
  • MartinCAFC
    MartinCAFC Posts: 3,219
    edited January 2024
    It’s a shame the managerial merry go round can’t recall Appleton instead.
  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,652
    It’s a shame the managerial merry go round can’t recall Appleton instead.
    If today goes badly enough you might well get your wish.
  • AFKABartram
    AFKABartram Posts: 57,825
    edited January 2024
    Purely me speculating but I’m convinced this is a non-football decision. I can’t for the life me believe in the middle of a congested calendar period where we are so so poor and additionally struggling with injuries, that this fella who showed good promise just 2 months ago can’t get a look in.

    Either it’s something like what we pay towards him is dependent on play, or there’s a break clause if he features less than x times. It just doesn’t make sense. No one has played well in midfield and a Dobson is being flogged. 
  • Croydon
    Croydon Posts: 12,728
    To not bring him on today when an already poor Anderson's legs had gone, was absolutely bonkers 
  • Chunes
    Chunes Posts: 17,349
    Playing politics with team selections rather than trying to go for all available points. Apples clearly just wants him recalled. 
  • Not beige enough to play for us 
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  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,487
    Hopefully someone asks him for his take on it. 
  • Purely me speculating but I’m convinced this is a non-football decision. I can’t for the life me believe in the middle of a congested calendar period where we are so so poor and additionally struggling with injuries, that this fella who showed good promise just 2 months ago can’t get a look in.

    Either it’s something like what we pay towards him is dependent on play, or there’s a break clause if he features less than x times. It just doesn’t make sense. No one has played well in midfield and a Dobson is being flogged. 
    Curbs and Brownie said something very similar after the game, they said something must've gone on🤷‍♂️
  • th0rryy
    th0rryy Posts: 360
    Chunes said:
    Playing politics with team selections rather than trying to go for all available points. Apples clearly just wants him recalled. 
    I suspect something similar happened with CCampbell too - he couldn't even make the bench for ages, was (afaik) fit, then suddenly comes back to start games. It's utterly bizarre.

    I would not be at all surprised if something happened there, he apologised and then got back in the team. If we had other fit players in the squad, I think LWatson would have been out in the cold too.

    He could have EASILY started CCampbell down the right, LWatson as the 10 today, but for whatever reason, LWatson is getting the drop treatment. Could be a number of reasons, but I have a niggling, tinfoil hat feeling that some selections are due to friction between Appleton and Scott over players.
  • Chunes said:
    Playing politics with team selections rather than trying to go for all available points. Apples clearly just wants him recalled. 
    Ridiculous to not bring him on to replace the knackered Anderson, especially as we didn't even use all 5 subs (so Appleton can't use that excuse).

    Playing billy big bollocks as a manager is fine when you're winning, and can make the "look at the 11 out there, that's why you're not playing" type statements. When you're losing, and the team is struggling and low in confidence and energy, it makes you look ridiculous.

    th0rryy said:
    Chunes said:
    Playing politics with team selections rather than trying to go for all available points. Apples clearly just wants him recalled. 
    I suspect something similar happened with CCampbell too - he couldn't even make the bench for ages, was (afaik) fit, then suddenly comes back to start games. It's utterly bizarre.

    I would not be at all surprised if something happened there, he apologised and then got back in the team. If we had other fit players in the squad, I think LWatson would have been out in the cold too.

    He could have EASILY started CCampbell down the right, LWatson as the 10 today, but for whatever reason, LWatson is getting the drop treatment. Could be a number of reasons, but I have a niggling, tinfoil hat feeling that some selections are due to friction between Appleton and Scott over players.
    Agreed, the Chem situation has also been weird. It does feel that certain players are being judged and treated differently to others. 
  • ValleyBen
    ValleyBen Posts: 572
    Has all the signs of a manager putting his pride before success, I would much rather see Louis Watson up at Port Vale then Appleton 
  • JamesSeed
    JamesSeed Posts: 17,380
    Purely me speculating but I’m convinced this is a non-football decision. I can’t for the life me believe in the middle of a congested calendar period where we are so so poor and additionally struggling with injuries, that this fella who showed good promise just 2 months ago can’t get a look in.

    Either it’s something like what we pay towards him is dependent on play, or there’s a break clause if he features less than x times. It just doesn’t make sense. No one has played well in midfield and a Dobson is being flogged. 
    Curbs and Brownie said something very similar after the game, they said something must've gone on🤷‍♂️
    He must have had a bust up with MA, and MA is punishing him. At the expense of the club. Can’t think what else it could be. If there was a financial/technical reason he wouldn’t be on the bench. 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    I was slightly on the fence about sacking another manager before yesterday but it’s clear that Appleton’s sacking is inevitable .  It’s a pity we are losing a very good league one midfielder because of it 
  • The Red Robin
    The Red Robin Posts: 26,126
    Didn’t he do the same with McGrandles at Lincoln?
  • Does it really matter who we sign in the transfer window?
    Until now we've mainly signed a load of dross. But two players have shown a bit of class and should have been regulars, Louis Watson and Chem Campbell.
    Both have been messed around and frozen out.
    Even if we sign decent players, there is no guarantee that Appleton will actually play them.

    He'd rather see the team lose, than swallow his pride.
    If I was Dobson I'd be demanding a transfer. Poor bloke is putting in monumental effort in order to try to stem the flow, but has got next to no options ahead of him.
  • PragueAddick
    PragueAddick Posts: 22,145
    Someone posted on here that Chem Campbell had been turning up late for training, and got the other players’ backs up. Cannot be sure it was true, of course, but at least that would be a rational reason for dropping him…and then restoring him when he shows he’s learnt his lesson. 

    Louie Watson has the demeanour of someone who isn’t afraid to have his say. That would be my guess as to the problem. If so, well, he wouldn’t be the first such footballer, and its up to a manager to manage that.