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  • What really irks me is that football in general has no genuine will to do anything about the problem. It would be very easy IMHO for the footballing authorities to lay down a marker and say from now on this kind of foul and nasty chanting is not going to be tolerated and when it can be confirmed as having taken place then it will have serious implications for both the fans that are responsible and the club. Wipe the slate clean but as from next season the sanctions are eg. Any fan found to be guilty will be prosecuted and banned from all football matches for life. Any club where this happens will be docked points. First offence 10, second 20, third 30. Lets then see how seriously fans and more so clubs take this problem. Will it happen. Not in a hundred million years.

    What is foul & nasty chanting? Your definition will differ from many others.

    Chanting to Lee Hughes "murderer" is foul & nasty to him, but not to many others.
    Chanting "you fat c*nt" to another player is foul & nasty to him & other fat people, but not to others.

    Who defines what is foul & nasty & why do they get the power to set that defintion?

    You have to end up banning everything in order to avoid offending anyone, or you continue to use common sense & treat each extreme case as they occur.


  • Common sense and football. As Eric Morcombe would have said " there's a novelty"
  • johnny73
    johnny73 Posts: 4,567
    Not banter. Shouldn't be acceptable in a civilized country. I'm embarrassed to be associated with these people in even the slightest way.
  • man_at_milletts
    man_at_milletts Posts: 5,620
    edited November 2012

    Genuine question:

    Whenever this sort of stuff is reported, the press always mention the large jewish support they have. Yes, I know that there's a large jewish community in the tottenham area, but do they have a larger percentage of jewish fans than Arsenal or chelsea?

    My home town (Gravesend) has a larger than average Indian population but that doesn't suggest most of Ebbsfleet supporters are indian (very few in fact). So why assume that the majority of spurs fans are jewish?

    Maybe someone with knowledge in this can enlighten me.

    Okay, the rest of you can go back to your shouting at each other now.............................

    I think somebody posted an article by David Baddiel about this, can't remember where. But no, Spurs don't have an unusually large percentage of Jewish supporters according to ths article.

    Considering the population in the East End after the war, you would suppose that West Ham have a bigger contintingent of Jewish following.

    **Edit** Here's a link to the article.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2230243/David-Baddiel-Tottenham-fans-chanting-Yid-Army-sustains-anti-Semitism.html



  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Stumbled across this by accident today. Funny how times change

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2003/jan/11/newsstory.sport
  • There is no meaningful Jewish community in and around the immediate Tottenham area, aside from the ultra-orthodox in Stamford Hill (who are unlikely to be attending White Hart Lane).

    The largest communities (in the South-East) are in North-West London, Herts and Essex (especially Ilford/Chigwell).

    West Ham, Arsenal and Spurs all have large Jewish followings (at least proportionate to the relatively few no. of Jews in the country as a whole ie. approx 250,000), as do Man Utd/Man City given the sizeable community in Manchester.
  • olster
    olster Posts: 1,397
    It's poignant to note the only Spurs fan in this thread has notes that it's no different from any other time when west ham/chelsea visit. The current atmosphere post Terry has what's made this blow up, but that's a good thing and the FA should use the momentum to actually kick it out.
  • ISawLeaburnScore
    ISawLeaburnScore Posts: 9,779
    edited November 2012
    Having grown up in the areas newyorkaddick mentions along with a number of Jewish school friends/neighbours etc, just as many were West Ham (if not more) as Spurs
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,442
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


  • GNelson
    GNelson Posts: 564
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    Correction: 5-0
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  • RaplhMilne
    RaplhMilne Posts: 4,601
    Did the “West Ham” fans give them the traditional “Does your butler know your here”….. 
  • R0TW
    R0TW Posts: 1,673
    They were blowing bubbles, just not out of their mouths.
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,017
    Did the “West Ham” fans give them the traditional “Does your butler know your here”….. 
    So presumably that is the opposite to 'poverty chanting'?

    Presumably Fulham will not show some anti-butler abuse slogans on their scoreboards in future...
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/67682536
  • Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,347
    GNelson said:
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    Correction: 5-0
    Missed opportunity for a bath!
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
    They've won a European Cup.
    I should think fans of about 9
    85 other clubs would take that.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    edited December 2023
    clb74 said:
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
    They've won a European Cup.
    I should think fans of about 9
    85 other clubs would take that.
    Maybe so

    But Champions of Europe they are not

    They had a group with

    Anderlecht 
    Silkeberg
    FCSB

    Then beat
    Larnaca
    Gent
    Alkamaar
    Fiorentina
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,838
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    The most bizarre thing about that is that Hammersmith Bridge is PAST Fulham's ground, so what were they doing down there - looking for Millwall?
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  • BalladMan
    BalladMan Posts: 1,112
    But the point is but that they should not chant, but what they are chanting.  Champions of Europe is a stretch and very uninventive. Write something better. 
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    clb74 said:
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
    They've won a European Cup.
    I should think fans of about 9
    85 other clubs would take that.
    Maybe so

    But Championship of Europe they are not

    They had a group with

    Anderlecht 
    Silkeberg
    FCSB

    Then beat
    Larnaca
    Gent
    Alkamaar
    Fiorentina
    Who cares they won a European trophy. 
    I'd be letting everyone know.

  • siblers
    siblers Posts: 2,016
    clb74 said:
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
    They've won a European Cup.
    I should think fans of about 9
    85 other clubs would take that.
    Maybe so

    But Championship of Europe they are not

    They had a group with

    Anderlecht 
    Silkeberg
    FCSB

    Then beat
    Larnaca
    Gent
    Alkamaar
    Fiorentina
    They are the Conference League champions  which is a European cup. I'd give my left bollock for our lot to even reach Europe never mind win a cup in it, even if the Conference league
  • T_C_E
    T_C_E Posts: 16,418
    To be fair it’s a step down, they’ve been banging about winning the World Cup since 66. 🤷‍♂️
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,254
    Off_it said:
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    The most bizarre thing about that is that Hammersmith Bridge is PAST Fulham's ground, so what were they doing down there - looking for Millwall?
    They were at waterloo looking for pompey
  • How did they manage to find a boat Captain that could even do that ? Surely they have to be qualified and familiar with navigating the Thames tides and clearances before they are allowed to take charge of those boats.
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,019
    How did they manage to find a boat Captain that could even do that ? Surely they have to be qualified and familiar with navigating the Thames tides and clearances before they are allowed to take charge of those boats.
    Yeah, but there's a geezer in The Boleyn Tavern whose brother in law will do it on the cheap. No questions asked.
  • Boom
    Boom Posts: 1,679
    clb74 said:
    clb74 said:
    Singing 'Champions of Europe' at the Cottage after winning the Europa Conference,  a cup where most teams would struggle in the National Conference ...
    They have been singing it all season

    Been annoying me every game i have seen on tv(probably more than it should tbh) 

    It was a 3rd tier competition almost like winning league 1 and singing champions of England 🤣🤣
    They've won a European Cup.
    I should think fans of about 9
    85 other clubs would take that.
    Maybe so

    But Championship of Europe they are not

    They had a group with

    Anderlecht 
    Silkeberg
    FCSB

    Then beat
    Larnaca
    Gent
    Alkamaar
    Fiorentina
    Who cares they won a European trophy. 
    I'd be letting everyone know.

    Exactly. Who wants to play Fiorentina when you've got Fleetwood away to look forward to.
  • MillwallFan
    MillwallFan Posts: 3,347
    Off_it said:
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    The most bizarre thing about that is that Hammersmith Bridge is PAST Fulham's ground, so what were they doing down there - looking for Millwall?
    They go up and down that bit of the Thames before the game. It’s just an excuse to get pissed on a boat. If they was to go direct to Fulham they would be there in half an hour. A few of our lot do it when ever we’ve got Fulham or Brentford. Just an excuse for a piss up
  • Off_it said:
    clive said:
    Boat taking West Ham fans to Fulham hits & gets stuck under Hammersmith Bridge.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-67680559

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CNxik-CBy4


    The most bizarre thing about that is that Hammersmith Bridge is PAST Fulham's ground, so what were they doing down there - looking for Millwall?
    They go up and down that bit of the Thames before the game. It’s just an excuse to get pissed on a boat. If they was to go direct to Fulham they would be there in half an hour. A few of our lot do it when ever we’ve got Fulham or Brentford. Just an excuse for a piss up
    Yeah we have done the same. Been on the boat to both of those grounds. One however left at 10am. Fucking mess when we finally moored up at Brentford by 2pm.