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Everton Deducted 10 Points - reduced to 6 on appeal (p3)

Addick Addict
Addick Addict Posts: 39,756
edited February 2024 in Other Football and Sports
For breaching PSR 
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  • Puts them joint bottom with Burnley
  • Elthamaddick
    Elthamaddick Posts: 15,808
    haha 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Mentioned in the premier league thread last week, if ever there was a year to get a points deduction this would be it.
    Everton will probably still escape relegation, there’s so much dross in the league at the very bottom
  • Wow. I can't remember any previous Premier League points deductions for financial reasons.
  • They'll still scrape over the line 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    edited November 2023
    Not sure it’s funny for a fanbase who had nothing to do with it.
    I’m not familiar with the specific details but why weren’t Man City deducted points for their breaches of financial rules? 

  • Wow. I can't remember any previous Premier League points deductions for financial reasons.
    Portsmouth?
  • Have City been found guilty yet? That seems to be dragging on forever
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  • City and Chelsea next please 
  • They won't go down. Even with the deduction they're not bottom and will only be 2 points from safety.
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,671
    edited November 2023
    Have City been found guilty yet? That seems to be dragging on forever
    Each time the premier league representative comes to the Etihad they drown him/her in a big vat of oil
  • How the hell can City and Chelsea get away with it now?! Surely not.
  • Looking on the City forum - they think they are now royally fucked.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,159
    Fairly outrageous to be honest. I don't know if it will make it past an appeal as it's a pretty unprecedented deduction. It also sets a very dangerous precedent for the league; in reality the thing that did for Everton is the fact that they suddenly couldn't inject any capital to offset the losses because Moshiri was being funded by Usmanov and world events meant his money was no good anymore. Everton are now on the verge of a takeover by a new set of dodgy owners who are currently in an ongoing sanction battle about not being able to pay their staff. With the state of the world a fair few Premier League teams might be hoping their famously chilled governments don't do anything bonkers in the next few years that would result in more scrutiny on how they fund things. I think there's a lot of Premier League teams financing themselves in dodgy ways; a massive deduction isn't going to work as a deterrent but it can work to completely destroy clubs while their owners then wander off to pretend to care about something else when it stops being fun.
  • Uboat
    Uboat Posts: 12,194
    *Checks to see if Palace are anywhere near relegation. They aren’t.*

    This is fine. 
  • Kap10
    Kap10 Posts: 15,559
    They won't go down. Even with the deduction they're not bottom and will only be 2 points from safety.
    I saw that, if it were last season they woukd be guaranteed relegation, this season Dyche had the playing reasonably well.
  • pettgra
    pettgra Posts: 1,572
    Apparently the case against City will take 2/4 years to complete. That announcement I believe came out in February.
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Everton had 1 charge, Man City have over 100 against them. Not surprising it’s taking longer. 
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  • Fairly outrageous to be honest. I don't know if it will make it past an appeal as it's a pretty unprecedented deduction. It also sets a very dangerous precedent for the league; in reality the thing that did for Everton is the fact that they suddenly couldn't inject any capital to offset the losses because Moshiri was being funded by Usmanov and world events meant his money was no good anymore. Everton are now on the verge of a takeover by a new set of dodgy owners who are currently in an ongoing sanction battle about not being able to pay their staff. With the state of the world a fair few Premier League teams might be hoping their famously chilled governments don't do anything bonkers in the next few years that would result in more scrutiny on how they fund things. I think there's a lot of Premier League teams financing themselves in dodgy ways; a massive deduction isn't going to work as a deterrent but it can work to completely destroy clubs while their owners then wander off to pretend to care about something else when it stops being fun.
    Whilst I follow this argument shouldn’t the capital be invested before they spend it?
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 11,982
    edited November 2023
    Everton had 1 charge, Man City have over 100 against them. Not surprising it’s taking longer. 
    Just long enough for today’s announcement to be forgotten and a fine issued to City and Chelsea, no doubt. 
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,797
    The case against City is going to be a long and brutal fight to the death, the idea you wrap it up in 3 months is just not possible
  • Chizz
    Chizz Posts: 28,329
    Next season, the twenty Premier League clubs will agree to spunk as much moolah as they want, thereby risking each of them getting a ten point deduction, so they can all carry on as normal. 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,480
    edited November 2023
    Everton had 1 charge, Man City have over 100 against them. Not surprising it’s taking longer. 
    So, like for like comparison should see Man City playing Cray Valley PM in a couple of years time...🤔



  • Clem_Snide
    Clem_Snide Posts: 11,735
    Look forward to Man City being deducted 1500 points.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,797
    The thing about City is, was their behaviour so egregious, that the Premier League strip them of titles as well as points
  • Don't many clubs exceed their limit?
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    edited November 2023
    As others have mentioned City have 115 charges against them. They have denied everything and have the world's best lawyers tying the Premier League up in knots and stringing the case out as long as possible. 

    Everton had 1 charge against them, that they had breached the profit and sustainability rules. You're allowed to lose a certain amount in a 3 year period (105m) and they were over it. So it doesn't seem like much of a case.

    Also Everton were charged in March and it's taken until now, so you can imagine how long City's 115 charges are going to take.
  • Uboat said:
    *Checks to see if Palace are anywhere near relegation. They aren’t.*

    This is fine. 
    The nightmare scenario is every other club in the league being deducted 40 points, with Palace becoming champions by default!