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The 2023 ICC Men's Cricket World Cup
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We have to finish in the top 8 to qualify for the Champions Trophy. We are struggling to even do that at the moment.0
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Still. Given how easy it was to bat second, Buttler has been vindicated on his decision to bowl first.
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what are the odds now?
good delivery tbf.
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Double world champion Jason Roy wondering why his replacement Brook not been playing…0
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Great ball that got Buttler0
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But that doesn't excuse the fact that he's made 95 runs in the WC. Or his decision making as captain.billysboots said:Great ball that got Buttler0 -
You never give up do you ?Addick Addict said:
But that doesn't excuse the fact that he's made 95 runs in the WC. Or his decision making as captain.billysboots said:Great ball that got Buttler0 -
Shami comes back and has Moeen caught behind from his first ball
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Roy dodged a bullet not having to be part of this shambles.MrOneLung said:Double world champion Jason Roy wondering why his replacement Brook not been playing…1 -
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The likes of Crawley and Duckett also are untarnished...blackpool72 said:
Roy dodged a bullet not having to be part of this shambles.MrOneLung said:Double world champion Jason Roy wondering why his replacement Brook not been playing…2 -
Great use of the feet from Woakes and carries on walking to the dressing room
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I don’t know what it is, but under Morgan the team seemed to have an identity in that everyone knew their role and how to approach each innings
This team, just seems to be picked randomly each game from within the squad and there doesn’t seem to be any semblance of a plan for each game.6 -
whats the lowest total so far in the WC ? Wasn't it the 170 we got against Sri Lanka ? Looks like we will be beating that today.
A s I said a day or so ago.........The Netherlands will be licking their chops and will be in with a shout of not coning bottom.0 -
Livingstone tries to sweep to Kuldeep and misses the ball. He reviews the decision.0
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The ball is hitting middle and he's out for 27 off 46. All reviews used.
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Not been many games where Kohli Root and Stokes all get 01
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Netherlands aren't coming bottom even if England beat them. Bangladesh have already played the other minnows (NL, Afg, Eng)golfaddick said:whats the lowest total so far in the WC ? Wasn't it the 170 we got against Sri Lanka ? Looks like we will be beating that today.
A s I said a day or so ago.........The Netherlands will be licking their chops and will be in with a shout of not coning bottom.0 -
Livingstone has been such a disappointment.0
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Rashid stumps are sent in every direction by Shami for 13 (20)
122-9
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Remember that stat - one innings in his last 141 that have lasted 50 balls. He's forgotten how to consistently construct an innings because he only ever plays T20 and just tries to smash the cover of the ball in that.Karim_myBagheri said:Livingstone has been such a disappointment.1 -
Bumrah cleans up Wood for a duck. Willey is 16* (17)
119 all out. India win by 100 runs
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The Netherlands game is suddenly looking like a qualifier for the next Champions Trophy. Top 8 quaify, or top 7 if Pakistan Although on current form maybe it wouldn't be a disaster to give that one a miss.0
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So Willey takes 3-45 @ 4.5 an over, and is unbeaten on 16 at the end. And doesn't get a central contract.3
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The "something" was only good enough for half a match. Which is marginally better than nothing.Chizz said:Something has happened "behind closed doors" between the last match and this one. It looks like they've been read the riot act by Mott or Buttler. But neither of them seem to be people who bully and cajole. Whatever it was, it seems to have worked so far.1 -
The point was made on Sky after the last defeat that Willey is known to be upset about being the only one in the squad without a CC and that has caused a bit of a ripple in the England camp. If we then take into account not just the financial differential of the players, information that does get out at some point, but also the announced number of years each have been given then no longer is Willey the only "unhappy bunny".killerandflash said:So Willey takes 3-45 @ 4.5 an over, and is unbeaten on 16 at the end. And doesn't get a central contract.
For example, Malan has always felt that he deserved a CC during periods when he hasn't been given one. In this WC he has been the best of a bad lot (236 runs, 39.33 average, 105.32 SR) as against, say, his opening partner, Bairstow (164 runs, 23.50 average, 85.97 SR). Malan has a one year CC whereas Bairstow has two years. I get that Bairstow is potentially a red and white ball player but one has to say that there is a reasonable chance that he isn't in either the Test or white ball sides going into that second year.
That is the folly of CCs. Because now we will be looking to evolve this squad in a meaningful manner but we are somewhat "pot committed" to playing players who might not be the best. Equally, there are no "hand cuffs" on up and coming players who don't currently have a CC but who will now vote with their feet and go and play for an IPL franchise and earn substantially more than just a match fee for England.
The ECB pot can only be so big and I have suggested that we should be making large squad and team payments to those that actually want to play for England. In any event, the CCs do not prevent players like Root from playing in the UAE T20 instead of for England in an ODI series against and he doesn't get some of his CC payment taken for doing that. But his replacement in the ODI team who isn't on a CC gets peanuts by comparison.
Player power has gone a bit too far. They are having their cake and being able to eat it. Playing for England should be a privilege that is rewarded. Failure at international level and/or not playing for England shouldn't be.
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Multi year central contracts could prove very expensive for the ECB if players lose form, and end up being paid when not playing, as with Charlton transfer flops...1
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I can't believe this but I've heard that the ECB just cannot believe their luck and intend to use this Hundred run defeat as some sort of marketing tool. They really have no shame.3
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How do other countries manage central contracts for their T20, ODI and test sides?Addick Addict said:
The point was made on Sky after the last defeat that Willey is known to be upset about being the only one in the squad without a CC and that has caused a bit of a ripple in the England camp. If we then take into account not just the financial differential of the players, information that does get out at some point, but also the announced number of years each have been given then no longer is Willey the only "unhappy bunny".killerandflash said:So Willey takes 3-45 @ 4.5 an over, and is unbeaten on 16 at the end. And doesn't get a central contract.
For example, Malan has always felt that he deserved a CC during periods when he hasn't been given one. In this WC he has been the best of a bad lot (236 runs, 39.33 average, 105.32 SR) as against, say, his opening partner, Bairstow (164 runs, 23.50 average, 85.97 SR). Malan has a one year CC whereas Bairstow has two years. I get that Bairstow is potentially a red and white ball player but one has to say that there is a reasonable chance that he isn't in either the Test or white ball sides going into that second year.
That is the folly of CCs. Because now we will be looking to evolve this squad in a meaningful manner but we are somewhat "pot committed" to playing players who might not be the best. Equally, there are no "hand cuffs" on up and coming players who don't currently have a CC but who will now vote with their feet and go and play for an IPL franchise and earn substantially more than just a match fee for England.
The ECB pot can only be so big and I have suggested that we should be making large squad and team payments to those that actually want to play for England. In any event, the CCs do not prevent players like Root from playing in the UAE T20 instead of for England in an ODI series against and he doesn't get some of his CC payment taken for doing that. But his replacement in the ODI team who isn't on a CC gets peanuts by comparison.
Player power has gone a bit too far. They are having their cake and being able to eat it. Playing for England should be a privilege that is rewarded. Failure at international level and/or not playing for England shouldn't be.
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Interesting article about this round of central contracts here.
https://amp.theguardian.com/sport/2023/oct/24/ben-stokes-england-cricket-one-year-central-contract
I wonder if global franchise contracts may be around the corner ?0
