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Daniel Kanu - season long loan to Walsall (p21)

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  • Danny Addick
    Danny Addick Posts: 3,930
    thenewbie said:
    I didn't need Daniel Kanu to score 4 goals for Southend to say he should be in our 18 man squad. 
    With Aneke getting his mandatory injury May, Leaburn, Tedic and Kanu need to be in our squad and most games I would use all 4 players.Tedic is a central striker and it's not doing him any favours playing out wide.

    Tedic can now job share with Leaburn while May can play 100 minutes and Kanu can be super sub. 
    Don't know the small print of the loan at Southend but we need him back ASAP if as expected Chuks goes on Sick leave.

    Disagree. It would be very very nice to have someone like that on the bench as a secret weapon but in the long-term he will benefit and develop a lot more being the Main Man for a lower team than he would coming off the bench for 20-30 minutes at a time.

    He's still young and we need to look at the long game not the here and now.
    Might as well use him while he’s here. He’ll be snapped up in no time - there’s no long game for us in L1 with a younger striker 
  • supaclive
    supaclive Posts: 6,514
    His goalscoring record for us this year was better than Alfie's.

    He broke our youth team goalscoring records. 
    He's a baller and will be outstanding next season. 
  • soapboxsam
    soapboxsam Posts: 23,229
    thenewbie said:
    I didn't need Daniel Kanu to score 4 goals for Southend to say he should be in our 18 man squad. 
    With Aneke getting his mandatory injury May, Leaburn, Tedic and Kanu need to be in our squad and most games I would use all 4 players.Tedic is a central striker and it's not doing him any favours playing out wide.

    Tedic can now job share with Leaburn while May can play 100 minutes and Kanu can be super sub. 
    Don't know the small print of the loan at Southend but we need him back ASAP if as expected Chuks goes on Sick leave.

    Disagree. It would be very very nice to have someone like that on the bench as a secret weapon but in the long-term he will benefit and develop a lot more being the Main Man for a lower team than he would coming off the bench for 20-30 minutes at a time.

    He's still young and we need to look at the long game not the here and now.
    Might as well use him while he’s here. He’ll be snapped up in no time - there’s no long game for us in L1 with a younger striker 

    This is the point.
    We are a league 1 club and the thought he goes out on loan for a season or two when his goals could be vital for cafc this Season when coming off the bench especially with the amount of games in a season that Aneke isn't fit.
    The plan is for Daniel to come back as he didn't play for Southend in the cup and Cafc aren't normally in the cup for long.
  • jonno
    jonno Posts: 117
    mendonca said:
    Any link to goals?
    A fan video blog here shows most of the goals, scroll through to find them https://youtu.be/ILwseRkFSEE?si=r8GCTpx41tSapFMy
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,213
    What a day for him, and Southend fans must be delighted with this loan signing. 

    I hope he stays for the full season. The mess we have been over recent years has forced us to rely far too heavily on talented youngsters, who have not actually been ready for first team football. 

    A full season at Southend with double figure goals and he will come back to us on the summer stronger and with even more confidence. 


  • Did they loan the Charlton singers too , that’s the quickest version of so and so’s on fire your defence is terriified , ever 
  • A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
  • Blucher
    Blucher Posts: 4,135
    A great day for Daniel and one he'll never forget. How good must it feel to have that crowd chanting your name at the final whistle. I hope we can leave him to play regularly at Southend until the end of the year and, if necessary, review the position in January. 

    I remember watching a young man called Mike Flanagan score 4 against Notts County in the early 70s but can't, off hand, recall any other Charlton player notching 4 in one game since the late 60s.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    edited October 2023
    A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
    He's eighteen and scored twice in four appearances for us this season - perhaps you could be slightly positive...
    I felt very similar before the beginning of this current season but his sub appearances were very promising, holding up the ball and being physical with centre backs, alongside bagging a couple of goals.

    I’d keep him going at Southend until at least January and we can assess him again then, keeping all options on the table.
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  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,512
    National League cheat code 
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    edited October 2023
    A natural goal scorer - touch of Ian Wright about his finishing .  Whether he gets anywhere near that level , who knows , but lesser talents that we’ve had like Pigott , Smith and Hanlon have gone on to have good careers in league one , so I have no doubt DK can do that or better 
  • A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
    Felt the same until I saw him start and play against Port Vale this season. I’m confident Kanu if recalled he wouldn’t look out his depth at this level. 
  • Kanu is 5th choice when chucks is fit and 4th choice when he isn't. 

    Leave him at Southend and let him score goals
  • wmcf123
    wmcf123 Posts: 5,824
    Kanu is 5th choice when chucks is fit and 4th choice when he isn't. 

    Leave him at Southend and let him score goals
    I agree to leave him there but I don’t think he’s worse than what we’ve seen from Tedic . 
  • MarcusH26
    MarcusH26 Posts: 8,029
    No need to recall him for me , I'd rather he played week in week out for Southend at least until January and kept on improving his game that way. 
  • A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
    Recency bias? He's 18, not like he's been around for ages and just hit a purple patch.

    He's started 5 league games in senior football.

    I'd agree he looked out of his depth last season but obviously as he gets older and spends more time training with senior pro's he will get better physically and his game will improve and personally i think we already saw the difference in him from last season to this. He will only get better.
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
    He only turned 18 in November last year, he’s still developing including physically and it showed in the way he competed earlier on this season. Hopefully Chuks injury wasn’t serious and we can keep Kanu at Southend.
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,265
    Scoham said:
    A lot of recency bias on this thread.  I am glad he succeeding on the loan but really hasn’t shown anything yet to indicate he can be some kind of super sub at the league one level.  Maybe eventually but as recent as late last year he looked out of his depth.
    He only turned 18 in November last year, he’s still developing including physically and it showed in the way he competed earlier on this season. Hopefully Chuks injury wasn’t serious and we can keep Kanu at Southend.
    He has scored at this level, twice this season and once in the EFL thingy. He is better off playing regularly for Southend rather than warming our bench. I think that his strength is his pace over five yards in the box, something that made Derek Hales so prolific and I also believe he will come back here and set the place alight. 
  • This could be kanus karlan grant moment. Let him stay, play and score and bring him back a man rather than a boy
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  • seth plum
    seth plum Posts: 53,448
    If watching this bit of modern match culture doesn't make you smile, you probably don't like football that much.

    May I draw your attention to the few seconds from 4.57 where there is something I have certainly never seen on a football pitch, the actual football refuses to do what it is told and leave the pitch!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW_K4Zy__dg&ab_channel=D1VERSITY
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,757
    And get him a new extended contract as well.
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    Does anyone go to Southend to watch the football?, they all seem to be video diarists!.
  • Swisdom
    Swisdom Posts: 14,976
    A mate of mine is a Shrimper and he was telling me none of the goals were worldies but it was all about being in the right place at the right time.

    When he joined them I said "he's a sniffer of a striker" and my mate now concurs with me.

    Delighted for DK and delighted for Southend to finally be heading in the right direction it seems
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,214
    No "worldies" but I think they are over rated.  Always ready to pounce on a mistake or a chance.

    Watch the ball ball and the police at about 0.55  : - )
  • This could be kanus karlan grant moment. Let him stay, play and score and bring him back a man rather than a boy
    That's the other good thing about such a great start - almost guarantees him plenty of minutes now.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,944
    edited October 2023
    The non Kanu goal was an absolute belter.
  • redbuttle
    redbuttle Posts: 1,976
    wmcf123 said:
    Kanu is 5th choice when chucks is fit and 4th choice when he isn't. 

    Leave him at Southend and let him score goals
    I agree to leave him there but I don’t think he’s worse than what we’ve seen from Tedic . 
    Let's see what Tedic is like when he plays in his proper position. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Watching the very brief highlights avaliable for the first time I have seen him, he looks like a man playing mens football.