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Michael Appleton - March 2025 appointed Shrewsbury manager (p124)
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I think a lot of ours hopes this season are pinned on Abankwah coming in and being a significant upgrade on our other central defenders. It is a big risk on a young player but fingers crossed.1
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If Appleton can sort out the back between now and end of the year then he’s got plenty of credits to play with.
If not then Scott needs to assist him in the January window.
if that does not happen then he can only do with what he has to work with and if that’s not acceptable to the owners then he’s better off out of it.0 -
But he is the difference between our owners making afew million player profit and nothing.supaclive said:
You say that having him back is huge - like we would be top 6 if he'd been around. I simply say he's a decent young prospect and I don't think he's the difference between the new ownership being successful or not.DubaiCAFC said:
And your point being?supaclive said:Miles Leaburn is a decent young prospect - but Erling Haaland aged 20 he is not.
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A new back room staff member to be appointed before Saturday1
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Methven is toy town in passing on information to supporters, why not go through official channels?supaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.1 -
Thank you kindly but I’m not quite that old / wasn’t publishing VOTV in 1983. I’d barely left school!cabbles said:
They should be given time, I agree. To the best of my knowledge that around the takeover officially got announced you were of the opinion we should be excited, I can’t remember the exact words. You and others were only passing on what you were hearing from contacts you trust, but for me, I got a sense it was what we call ‘happy ears’ in the sales profession.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!This could all still work out, but the immediate months following the takeover have been a disaster. Scratching the surface, it appears as though there is a disconnect between what the major investors have been sold versus the reality and what the 4 members of the SMT are working with day to day. Some of it is not their fault, inheriting the likes of Kirk and Aneke on long contracts and big money, and for me, signing the likes of Tayo, May and Camara were big ticks, I think they’re good players and can help us do well. On the flip side, Holden their man in Jan, was found out, the tail end of the window, although it had activity, that activity is perhaps different to what we need to get out this division, time will tell
You are quite right that what you and others shared is no different to what Airman shared in the analogue years prior to social media through VOTV. I think the difference being, whether or not you like/agree with Airman, he’s built up a 40 year plus reputation based on his work for both the club and a voice of the fans, is trustworthy, with the club’s best interests at heart, and has a working knowledge of Charlton Athletic and what it would take to run the club properly. It’s not that you, or any of the others who shared info in the run up to the takeover, or your contacts are untrustworthy, but speaking candidly, the faces of our most recent takeover, could be considered untrustworthy.It’s done now, and yours and Michael Appleton’s season starts Saturday, but for the rest of us, the season began after the takeover. The grace period should still apply, happy to eat humble pie if we end up having a competitive season, and we should get behind Appleton, but the fans, quite rightly are watching very closelyStories come from a wide mixture of sources - sometimes from people in positions of authority, sometimes from completely random individuals who have got information by fluke and bring it to you. The idea, expressed on here, that “he’s got no sources any more” is naive. I’ve got 35-ish years of Charlton connections. I don’t need to speak to Charlie Methven, neither would I want to do so. Obviously when I was reporting on Charlton for the Mercury, which I did for nine years, it was a different situation.10 -
I’ll give you Camara and Fraser but every team in the league gets injuries. McGrandles won’t play even if he’s fit, Taylor and Jones have now played plenty of football so that excuse has ran out. And Kirk is 4th choice winger so that’s pretty irrelevantsupaclive said:
Camara is outNabySarr said:
I’m not sure how you can say MA hasn’t been dealt a full hand. He’s got a full squad with depth. Holden never had that but Appleton has. For me Appleton has to be in the best 6 league teams from this point onwards as a minimum. If we miss out on the play offs because of our poor start then I won’t blame him but from now on we should be performing at top 6 level or he has not done well enough with this squadsupaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.
Fraser is out
McGrandles is out
Aneke is out
Taylor, Jones are not match fit
Kirk is a waste of money
We have a bunch of teenagers filling in
Yet he's supposed to deliver top 6 based on who we are and what the owners have been sold by CM
I don't think he's been dealt a full handThis is a top 6 squad, not many teams have our depth. We should be performing at the level of a top 6 side for the rest of the season or Appleton has failed. Top 8 finish minimum as I will forgive us missing out due to our poor start5 -
I’ve never really been convinced of this. Almost every time we play another team their players look just as good as ours, with one or two exceptions perhaps. Certainly they seem to make fewer defensive blunders than we do. But perhaps a much better manager would have made the difference after Bowyer left? Impossible to know for sure.NabySarr said:
I’ll give you Camara and Fraser but every team in the league gets injuries. McGrandles won’t play even if he’s fit, Taylor and Jones have now played plenty of football so that excuse has ran out. And Kirk is 4th choice winger so that’s pretty irrelevantsupaclive said:
Camara is outNabySarr said:
I’m not sure how you can say MA hasn’t been dealt a full hand. He’s got a full squad with depth. Holden never had that but Appleton has. For me Appleton has to be in the best 6 league teams from this point onwards as a minimum. If we miss out on the play offs because of our poor start then I won’t blame him but from now on we should be performing at top 6 level or he has not done well enough with this squadsupaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.
Fraser is out
McGrandles is out
Aneke is out
Taylor, Jones are not match fit
Kirk is a waste of money
We have a bunch of teenagers filling in
Yet he's supposed to deliver top 6 based on who we are and what the owners have been sold by CM
I don't think he's been dealt a full handThis is a top 6 squad, not many teams have our depth. We should be performing at the level of a top 6 side for the rest of the season or Appleton has failed. Top 8 finish minimum as I will forgive us missing out due to our poor start0 -
It's true because the NTT20 podcast says so.JamesSeed said:
I’ve never really been convinced of this. Almost every time we play another team their players look just as good as ours, with one or two exceptions perhaps. Certainly they seem to make fewer defensive blunders than we do. But perhaps a much better manager would have made the difference after Bowyer left? Impossible to know for sure.NabySarr said:
I’ll give you Camara and Fraser but every team in the league gets injuries. McGrandles won’t play even if he’s fit, Taylor and Jones have now played plenty of football so that excuse has ran out. And Kirk is 4th choice winger so that’s pretty irrelevantsupaclive said:
Camara is outNabySarr said:
I’m not sure how you can say MA hasn’t been dealt a full hand. He’s got a full squad with depth. Holden never had that but Appleton has. For me Appleton has to be in the best 6 league teams from this point onwards as a minimum. If we miss out on the play offs because of our poor start then I won’t blame him but from now on we should be performing at top 6 level or he has not done well enough with this squadsupaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.
Fraser is out
McGrandles is out
Aneke is out
Taylor, Jones are not match fit
Kirk is a waste of money
We have a bunch of teenagers filling in
Yet he's supposed to deliver top 6 based on who we are and what the owners have been sold by CM
I don't think he's been dealt a full handThis is a top 6 squad, not many teams have our depth. We should be performing at the level of a top 6 side for the rest of the season or Appleton has failed. Top 8 finish minimum as I will forgive us missing out due to our poor start
But they also said MK Dons would finish 3rd in League One last year. They finished 21st and were relegated.0 -
We won’t be successful unless we have a dominant centre half. Think Morrison or Bauer from previous promotions
we are likely to lose at Stevenage because neither the goalie ( whether AMB or Isted) or the centre halves are brave enough or competent to compete at free kicks of corners
we got rid of Inniss which was fair enough but we have replaced him with Jones who is no better3 -
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I hope Appleton is allowed to bring in a fitness and conditioning coach.
Some of our players are blowing out their Arse after about 70 minutes and I'm sure that plays a part in the amount of late goals we concede.
It's definitely something that needs addressing.7 -
I have heard he is different gravy in training, so reckon he will be. Then again so would I at the moment.Covered_End_Lad said:I think a lot of ours hopes this season are pinned on Abankwah coming in and being a significant upgrade on our other central defenders. It is a big risk on a young player but fingers crossed.2 -
I don’t think we’ve had a top 6 squad until this season, and part of that is the league being weaker than it has been previously. The defence is a problem and isn’t top 6 quality but we are strong everywhere elseJamesSeed said:
I’ve never really been convinced of this. Almost every time we play another team their players look just as good as ours, with one or two exceptions perhaps. Certainly they seem to make fewer defensive blunders than we do. But perhaps a much better manager would have made the difference after Bowyer left? Impossible to know for sure.NabySarr said:
I’ll give you Camara and Fraser but every team in the league gets injuries. McGrandles won’t play even if he’s fit, Taylor and Jones have now played plenty of football so that excuse has ran out. And Kirk is 4th choice winger so that’s pretty irrelevantsupaclive said:
Camara is outNabySarr said:
I’m not sure how you can say MA hasn’t been dealt a full hand. He’s got a full squad with depth. Holden never had that but Appleton has. For me Appleton has to be in the best 6 league teams from this point onwards as a minimum. If we miss out on the play offs because of our poor start then I won’t blame him but from now on we should be performing at top 6 level or he has not done well enough with this squadsupaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.
Fraser is out
McGrandles is out
Aneke is out
Taylor, Jones are not match fit
Kirk is a waste of money
We have a bunch of teenagers filling in
Yet he's supposed to deliver top 6 based on who we are and what the owners have been sold by CM
I don't think he's been dealt a full handThis is a top 6 squad, not many teams have our depth. We should be performing at the level of a top 6 side for the rest of the season or Appleton has failed. Top 8 finish minimum as I will forgive us missing out due to our poor start1 -
Jones hasn't gifted any goals or got sent off yet so he is at least an improvement in that sensealburyaddick said:We won’t be successful unless we have a dominant centre half. Think Morrison or Bauer from previous promotions
we are likely to lose at Stevenage because neither the goalie ( whether AMB or Isted) or the centre halves are brave enough or competent to compete at free kicks of corners
we got rid of Inniss which was fair enough but we have replaced him with Jones who is no better5 -
Been busy with work so haven't really given much thought to our new managerial coaching appointment but....I can’t believe Michael Appleton is actually leading Charlton. He seems a decent enough bloke and he gets full backing, of course. But this doesn't feel like us - perhaps that means it works but I have my doubts.
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I hope he does not get red or yellow carded on the sidelines.
Very bad look, very bad example.
Sometimes a florid display of losing your rag is a distraction from personal failings. I have never seen a decision changed because of showing off in the technical area, and it doesn’t show ‘the passion of the man’ it shows their stupidity.2 -
100% this is a top 6 squad and to finish outside of the playoffs would be failure (even taking into account our start)NabySarr said:
I’ll give you Camara and Fraser but every team in the league gets injuries. McGrandles won’t play even if he’s fit, Taylor and Jones have now played plenty of football so that excuse has ran out. And Kirk is 4th choice winger so that’s pretty irrelevantsupaclive said:
Camara is outNabySarr said:
I’m not sure how you can say MA hasn’t been dealt a full hand. He’s got a full squad with depth. Holden never had that but Appleton has. For me Appleton has to be in the best 6 league teams from this point onwards as a minimum. If we miss out on the play offs because of our poor start then I won’t blame him but from now on we should be performing at top 6 level or he has not done well enough with this squadsupaclive said:
Appleton's season starts Saturday. The rest of our owners and SMT started in July. With extensive knowledge since January.DubaiCAFC said:To be honest, when I first heard was going to be Appleton, I wasn't overly impressed, having listened to 'not top 20' pod, it has given me a bit more confidence. And where we are as a club, and what they want to achieve I think it is a pretty solid appointment.
I just think as a fanbase we need to show a bit more patience (hard I know). It has been a tough start for the ownership so far, and hopefully Andy Scott, can do the business in his technical role.
I haven't been on here much recently, but I was reading about Charlie speaking to someone on LinkedIn and people having a pop at him.. With social media now, people are so easily reachable, and people are happy to engage! But it is no different to what it has been for years and years, only difference is, it is seen in more places such and forums, whatsapps, social media.. There has always been leaks, but you would only hear about it on clubcall, fanzines and local newspapers.
VOTV intel would have always been from leaks and discussions Airman would have had.. So would that have made them people unprofessional then?
For me our season Starts this Saturday, fresh slate for all and time to get behind them, and see if we can turn this season around!
I wish MA well. He hasn't been dealt a full hand so he's going to have work a few miracles.
Fraser is out
McGrandles is out
Aneke is out
Taylor, Jones are not match fit
Kirk is a waste of money
We have a bunch of teenagers filling in
Yet he's supposed to deliver top 6 based on who we are and what the owners have been sold by CM
I don't think he's been dealt a full handThis is a top 6 squad, not many teams have our depth. We should be performing at the level of a top 6 side for the rest of the season or Appleton has failed. Top 8 finish minimum as I will forgive us missing out due to our poor start
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I cannot think of a worse start for a manager than to visit the league leaders who are led by antagonist in chief Steve Evans.I hope we get a result,but please if it goes against us let us not get too down.I am sure all you guys going will give Appleton a good reception and show what great support this club has home and away.2
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Appleton will be able to deal with Evans. They have had run ins before, so I don’t think he will get under Appletons skin.thickandthin63 said:I cannot think of a worse start for a manager than to visit the league leaders who are led by antagonist in chief Steve Evans.I hope we get a result,but please if it goes against us let us not get too down.I am sure all you guys going will give Appleton a good reception and show what great support this club has home and away.1 -
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Still unable to generate any emotion at all towards Appleton other than mild surprise that he's actually Charlton manager every time I'm reminded of the fact. All the best to him but I just can't really be arsed with it
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You mean to tell me that a league one striker is not as good as a guy who is probably the best young centre forward the world has seen since Brazilian Ronaldo.supaclive said:Miles Leaburn is a decent young prospect - but Erling Haaland aged 20 he is not.
This is not good enough. Methven and Scott out.5 -
Agreed. That department and the medical side have been dire the last few years. Pretty sure we’ve not attempted to make changes to the staff either.blackpool72 said:I hope Appleton is allowed to bring in a fitness and conditioning coach.
Some of our players are blowing out their Arse after about 70 minutes and I'm sure that plays a part in the amount of late goals we concede.
It's definitely something that needs addressing.0 -
I assume Appleton took the job in order to win.
If it is only for the money and results are no biggie then he is the wrong choice.
Win tomorrow and it is a good start.
Lose tomorrow and for some fans it is also acceptable in the eyes of those who think Appleton should be allowed any period of grace.
Please win Appleton, that’s why you’re here in my opinion.0 -
Thought we spoke well and was realistic about the assessment of the squad in his pre match presser, all about how it translates into reality tomorrow. Interesting that he appears to back himself highly in the loan market0
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Do we know who the coach, in the dugout Saturday, mentioned in his press interview will be ?0
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barstool said:Do we know who the coach, in the dugout Saturday, mentioned in his press interview will be ?
Can't say any more!!...😉0 -
bromdog said:
Agreed. That department and the medical side have been dire the last few years. Pretty sure we’ve not attempted to make changes to the staff eitherblackpool72 said:I hope Appleton is allowed to bring in a fitness and conditioning coach.
Some of our players are blowing out their Arse after about 70 minutes and I'm sure that plays a part in the amount of late goals we concede.
It's definitely something that needs addressing.
AS said yesterday on Radio London that they are currently trying to recruit a Director of performance, ie, fitness and conditioning1 -
Why not he leading what happens on the pitch and what players he wants like all managers / head coachesValley11 said:Been busy with work so haven't really given much thought to our new managerial coaching appointment but....I can’t believe Michael Appleton is actually leading Charlton. He seems a decent enough bloke and he gets full backing, of course. But this doesn't feel like us - perhaps that means it works but I have my doubts.
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Why does your post read like an anagram,...maybe a comma now and again might help,...just saying.RonnieMoore said:
Why not he leading what happens on the pitch and what players he wants like all managers / head coachesValley11 said:Been busy with work so haven't really given much thought to our new managerial coaching appointment but....I can’t believe Michael Appleton is actually leading Charlton. He seems a decent enough bloke and he gets full backing, of course. But this doesn't feel like us - perhaps that means it works but I have my doubts.
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