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Garner Gawn? (Ed. CORRECT - GARNER SACKED p6, and again by Colchester p32)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Airman Brown said:
    I was told on Saturday that Garner was out. The information was credible but before I looked into it the source recanted, saying it was a misunderstanding. 

    Then the rumours took off on Sunday and Sandgaard explicitly denied it was true.

    Garner took training today and it then emerged he’d been sacked.

    It’s possible he knew Saturday and Sandgaard was lying on Sunday but fans knew already.

    I’m not a huge Garner fan but it is extremely obvious that he was better equipped for his role than Sandgaard is for his.

    As for Martin Sandgaard holding any role on the football side or Raelynn Maloney in the business, both are big red flags.
    I did notice at the weekend a twitter comment by a family member of a former manager questioning why Martin needs training gear with MS on it...
  • Todds_right_hook
    Todds_right_hook Posts: 10,906
    edited December 2022
    Airman Brown said:
    I was told on Saturday that Garner was out. The information was credible but before I looked into it the source recanted, saying it was a misunderstanding. 

    Then the rumours took off on Sunday and Sandgaard explicitly denied it was true.

    Garner took training today and it then emerged he’d been sacked.

    It’s possible he knew Saturday and Sandgaard was lying on Sunday but fans knew already.

    I’m not a huge Garner fan but it is extremely obvious that he was better equipped for his role than Sandgaard is for his.

    As for Martin Sandgaard holding any role on the football side or Raelynn Maloney in the business, both are big red flags and that won’t change whoever the manager is.
    Nail and head spring to mind
  • cafcsinger
    cafcsinger Posts: 5,571
    Callumcafc said:
    Two seasons in a row we've lost to Cheltenham at home and then sacked the manager.
    Is it? Adkins was sacked a month after that game last season 
  • twiggyaddick
    twiggyaddick Posts: 1,567
    I do find it somewhat disrespectful to our club that this has happened today, announced at the time the 49th anniversary of the actual pompey game was being played, reaks out well out of touch ownership
  • Fanny Fanackapan
    Fanny Fanackapan Posts: 18,775
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The relationship between Garner and director of analysis Martin Sandgaard had been strained for a number of weeks.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-sack-ben-garner-as-recent-poor-form-sees-yet-another-managerial-change/

    There is your culture...
    " The relationship between Fans & the owner, Thomas Sandgaard has been strained for a number of weeks and has now been ramped up by the sacking of manager, Ben Garner."

    You'd better believe it !  
  • IdleHans
    IdleHans Posts: 11,015
    Tommy only cares about Tommy and making Tommy look good
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,798
    aliwibble said:
    PWR the 500 or so posts on this thread so far - oh for fuck's sake. Is he just trying to piss us off now? The timing is utterly ridiculous, both in terms of being on the very day of the Back to the Valley 30th anniversary, and 2 days before we're live on terrestrial TV. Looking like the world's least surprising cup upset on the way at Stockport then.
    So we are! Bloody hell, did you have to lure me into this trap?
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,951
    Airman Brown said:
    I was told on Saturday that Garner was out. The information was credible but before I looked into it the source recanted, saying it was a misunderstanding. 

    Then the rumours took off on Sunday and Sandgaard explicitly denied it was true.

    Garner took training today and it then emerged he’d been sacked.

    It’s possible he knew Saturday and Sandgaard was lying on Sunday but fans knew already.

    I’m not a huge Garner fan but it is extremely obvious that he was better equipped for his role than Sandgaard is for his.

    As for Martin Sandgaard holding any role on the football side or Raelynn Maloney in the business, both are big red flags and that won’t change whoever the manager is.
    I always took the view that either of them had any significant input into decisions within the club with a massive pinch of salt. Mainly because I didnt think the owner would be stupid enough to allow it. Seems I was wrong.
    Sadly I think that we are the ego trip plaything of a deluded mob of idiots. I suspect TS will stay very low profile from now on until he finds a way out
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    IdleHans said:
    Tommy only cares about Tommy and making Tommy look good
    Tommy listens to Martin and believes every word Martin says, despite what other people tell him.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,423
    Almost as if the absentee owner wanted to give us the two fingers on the 30th anniversary.  From one of the great days in our history to another nadir. The fault is not with the manager(s). It's with an owner whose ego easily outstrips his ability, interest or wallet

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  • soapy_jones
    soapy_jones Posts: 21,421
    I think Varney wants a bigger attendance at the game so that there are more bodies to choose our next manager from. Fuck the crossbar challenge, we cannot do worse...
  • RedChaser
    RedChaser Posts: 19,891
    Cafc43v3r said:
    IdleHans said:
    Tommy only cares about Tommy and making Tommy look good
    Tommy listens to Martin and believes every word Martin says, despite what other people tell him.
    What you mean Martin hasn’t really got dynamite in his boots 😉.
  • bromleyjohn
    bromleyjohn Posts: 5,988
    I feel really gutted about this as we all know he never had the players required. The owner knew this also, so I really don’t know what to make of it unless The owner wants out and the new owner wants a different manager in.
  • CH4RLTON
    CH4RLTON Posts: 2,618
    I’m hearing rumours David Artell has been approached , a very cheap option good at developing young players 
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 23,055
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    I was told on Saturday that Garner was out. The information was credible but before I looked into it the source recanted, saying it was a misunderstanding. 

    Then the rumours took off on Sunday and Sandgaard explicitly denied it was true.

    Garner took training today and it then emerged he’d been sacked.

    It’s possible he knew Saturday and Sandgaard was lying on Sunday but fans knew already.

    I’m not a huge Garner fan but it is extremely obvious that he was better equipped for his role than Sandgaard is for his.

    As for Martin Sandgaard holding any role on the football side or Raelynn Maloney in the business, both are big red flags.
    I did notice at the weekend a twitter comment by a family member of a former manager questioning why Martin needs training gear with MS on it...
    Maybe it was M&S...😉😉
  • CL_Phantom
    CL_Phantom Posts: 5,605
    Cafc43v3r said:
    The relationship between Garner and director of analysis Martin Sandgaard had been strained for a number of weeks.

    https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-athletic-sack-ben-garner-as-recent-poor-form-sees-yet-another-managerial-change/

    There is your culture...

    But but, he just makes gallens tea?!?!? Bellend red said so! 😳
  • 1StevieG
    1StevieG Posts: 10,970
    What a f cking shit show this club is.
  • mogodon
    mogodon Posts: 3,423
    CH4RLTON said:
    I’m hearing rumours David Artell has been approached , a very cheap option good at developing young players 
    Whoever takes over better be good at developing young players, and doing so bloody quickly, as TS and his lackies aren't going to let him buy any
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,417
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Airman Brown said:
    I was told on Saturday that Garner was out. The information was credible but before I looked into it the source recanted, saying it was a misunderstanding. 

    Then the rumours took off on Sunday and Sandgaard explicitly denied it was true.

    Garner took training today and it then emerged he’d been sacked.

    It’s possible he knew Saturday and Sandgaard was lying on Sunday but fans knew already.

    I’m not a huge Garner fan but it is extremely obvious that he was better equipped for his role than Sandgaard is for his.

    As for Martin Sandgaard holding any role on the football side or Raelynn Maloney in the business, both are big red flags.
    I did notice at the weekend a twitter comment by a family member of a former manager questioning why Martin needs training gear with MS on it...
    Don’t even go down that line. My wife said something along that line earlier  this evening.

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  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,074
    OK Martin, you picked Garner, so much for what you know about English league 1 football. Now who will you advise your dad to appoint now. You stopped him appointing a so called top manager, and Garner was obviously cheaper. We know that TS appoints top advisors, who he later sacks, so who will he ask this time? 🤔🥱☹️
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,866
    Todds_right_hook said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Jackett? So garner was appointed to change the culture of the club. Jacket is a long ball merchant! 
    What type of ball merchant your next manager is should be the least of your worries. 

    You need a steady and calm head to steady the very rocky ship charlton seem to be on. 

    You could do a lot worse than Kenny Jackett. 


    God knows what they make of Brazil tonight...

    Most won't know a long ball merchant or hoofball if it hit them on the head...
    He was successful in varying degrees at ours, Swansea and wolves, getting several promotions under his belt, done ok ish at pompey, but for some reason it didn’t work for him at orient. 

    He has a hell of a lot of connections in football. Something that could really benefit charlton, seeing as DD doesn’t seem to want to spend any money now. And he can run the playing side of a club from top to bottom. He’s a calm head but doesn’t suffer fools gladly. He could be the perfect fit for you. 
    My point was that sandgaard sacked Jackson because he didn't play a high press, possession based game. That's why garner was appointed. Appointing jackett with his hoofing it up to a big man style goes against everything he has said
    When has anything Sandgaard said matches what he does.
  • Arsenetatters
    Arsenetatters Posts: 6,022
    Bailey said:
    soapboxsam said:
    Hayes and Pearce for the Cup replay I would assume ?
    With Russell & Bromley taking over for the league games, with a front three of Freeman Hardy Willis. It matters not now as everyone realises that any manager is going to be shafted from the start by Sandgaard. 
    That really made me laugh!!
  • Gravesend_Addick
    Gravesend_Addick Posts: 7,317
    Outside punt.....Duncan Ferguson.  Doubt he'd take a league one job, but ive always thought he'd make a decent manager. 

    Zero chance though I'd imagine 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,505
    golfaddick said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    MillwallFan said:
    Todds_right_hook said:
    Jackett? So garner was appointed to change the culture of the club. Jacket is a long ball merchant! 
    What type of ball merchant your next manager is should be the least of your worries. 

    You need a steady and calm head to steady the very rocky ship charlton seem to be on. 

    You could do a lot worse than Kenny Jackett. 


    God knows what they make of Brazil tonight...

    Most won't know a long ball merchant or hoofball if it hit them on the head...
    He was successful in varying degrees at ours, Swansea and wolves, getting several promotions under his belt, done ok ish at pompey, but for some reason it didn’t work for him at orient. 

    He has a hell of a lot of connections in football. Something that could really benefit charlton, seeing as DD doesn’t seem to want to spend any money now. And he can run the playing side of a club from top to bottom. He’s a calm head but doesn’t suffer fools gladly. He could be the perfect fit for you. 
    My point was that sandgaard sacked Jackson because he didn't play a high press, possession based game. That's why garner was appointed. Appointing jackett with his hoofing it up to a big man style goes against everything he has said
    When has anything Sandgaard said matches what he does.
    It's laughable to think TS has any sort of strategy ..
  • CAFCTrev
    CAFCTrev Posts: 6,021
    THE INTERVIEW

    Potential manager: "So, what kind of player budget would I have in January"

    TS:

      
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,990
    edited December 2022
    YARN Youve charmed me yeah Youve got the job The Office UK 2001 - S01E05 Drama Video gifs by quotes 0f3017b2
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Outside punt.....Duncan Ferguson.  Doubt he'd take a league one job, but ive always thought he'd make a decent manager. 

    Zero chance though I'd imagine 
    Would be a great press conference - he could head butt Tommy and smash Martin over the head with his Daddy’s banjo and then resign.
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,636
    edited December 2022
    Gravesend_Addick said:
    Outside punt.....Duncan Ferguson.  Doubt he'd take a league one job, but ive always thought he'd make a decent manager. 

    Zero chance though I'd imagine 
    PMSL at the thought of that one. Particularly the mental image of him chinning MS for telling him he couldn't sign the players we need to strengthen.
    ETA: great minds think alike, @ricky_otto :)

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