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Post-match Thread: Charlton Athletic vs Oxford United | Saturday 1st October 2022 - 3pm KO
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Frustrating afternoon.
Lacklustre start I think we can put down to @Henry Irving boring them half to death yesterday:-) But once they shook that off things improved.
Can’t work things out. There’s no real players out there I dislike, I don’t think there is an effort problem, but something just doesn’t seem or feel right. We look and are, bang average.15 -
Didn’t go over on his arse at least………gutted 😄BR7_addick said:
Close but not close enough!SuedeAdidas said:How was today’s crossbar challenge attempt?3 -
Need to set up like this next game:
Wollacott
Egbo O'Connell Inniss Sessengnon or Clayden (half each)
Dobson
JFC Fraser
JRS Stockley Leaburn0 -
3pts better off than this time last season. Not much difference to how we were under Adkins imo. Just different faces
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Dobson will be having nightmares tonight ..football such a fine line at times and we deserved the win second half ..
First half 343 was brave , not helped by Oxford getting a lead to
hold onto then basically putting all 11 back in their own half looking fir the odd breakaway .. we had loads of procession but really failed to create only two dangerous crosses from Egbo was all we could muster but saying that Woolacot was spectator as well at the other end .
All credit to Garner for changing it at half time to 442 and what a diff .. Kirk made a massive diff and Stockley finally found space .. there was a hand ball that the ref missed ( I did warn you all about him what a terrible game he had ) the goal was down to calmness especially Kirk would have been to easy to rush and panick ..
After that we created and looked really good , Oxford changed their shape with numerous subs and it had an affect on us a little .. but then the chance of all chances Dobson had to score …
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It was a pretty good attempt, a lot of people in the CE thought he was going to hit it.BR7_addick said:Closest effort first half was my dad’s attempt at the crossbar challenge!2 -
He missed, but it was still the best shot of the afternoon.SuedeAdidas said:How was today’s crossbar challenge attempt?9 -
It was to do with as Sess and Egbo have come back, Blackett-Taylor's out injured now.ross1 said:
What did Scott sayDazzler21 said:
Guess it could have been assumptive.1 -
What we have to do is ask what the point of passing the ball around the side is if we just do it until a player bottles it and plays a negative or shit ball? You need ability and positivity through the side for that to work.6
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Doesn’t matter how we set up, who plays, what the formation is etc.It’s just a bland bunch of players who happen to be passing through Charlton at this specific moment in time. Zero personality to the squad.They probably know they’re not good enough to go up, but also believe they’re likely too good to go down.
Hence we just get a load of players going through the motions week-to-week.And it’s terribly boring.35 -
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I won't argue but none of our forwrads can play as a one so you have to address that as a priority.3
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Was good to get on there when you’re on it it really is a carpet like.Arthur_Trudgill said:
It was a pretty good attempt, a lot of people in the CE thought he was going to hit it.BR7_addick said:Closest effort first half was my dad’s attempt at the crossbar challenge!4 -
I think there’s an energy problem, rather than an effort problem. One of the CTV guys said ‘they weren't running around enough’. Think I agree with that. They may not be fit enough.AFKABartram said:Frustrating afternoon.
Lacklustre start I think we can put down to @Henry Irving boring them half to death yesterday:-) But once they shook that off things improved.
Can’t work things out. There’s no real players out there I dislike, I don’t think there is an effort problem, but something just doesn’t seem or feel right. We look and are, bang average.But we do have a lot of mediocre players, so even fired up they not going to pull up any trees.Egbo, Sessegnon, Fraser & Leaburn were ok today. That’s about it.I’m normally pretty positive, but I've lost all hope of a playoff place already.I’ve preferred watching the U21s this season if I’m honest.I’m hoping they can try some different options on Tuesday. Maybe a start for the new CB Terrell?0 -
No leadership on the park. We need a proper Captain.AFKABartram said:Frustrating afternoon.
Lacklustre start I think we can put down to @Henry Irving boring them half to death yesterday:-) But once they shook that off things improved.
Can’t work things out. There’s no real players out there I dislike, I don’t think there is an effort problem, but something just doesn’t seem or feel right. We look and are, bang average.
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If we don't win two games in the next ten Sandgaard will sack Garner. That aside, I have nothing against him and think he's been dealt a bad hand.ateamofcorygibbs said:cabbles said:Appalling performance. The second half only looked good because we so crap in the first half.
Garner is lost already, changing the set up, completely dropping Morgan, CBT and Clare. It highlights that he doesn’t really have much faith in the players at his disposal and ultimately, it doesn’t really matter who starts.I can’t see this helping us kick on. Too many mediocre players. BG adamant that we must play out from the back, but it’s painful watching.
An owner without a clue
Operation Breakeven continues
agree with this, think garner is absolutely panicking. went on all pre-season and well into the season about the system and the identity, his philosophy blah blah. then in the last three games we've cycled through about 9 formations. first half today the players looked like they had completely no idea what they were meant to be doing, just dreadful. when he switched it to play to our best players' strengths - i.e. putting JRS wide and getting crosses into the box for stockley - we looked a lot better. but 90% of the people on this forum could have told him that weeks ago...
it's absolutely 100% true that garner wasn't supported by the owner in the summer, but notwithstanding that i've not really seen anything to convince me that he has anything about him as a managerr. unlike some i wasn't massively impressed by him finishing 6th in league two with swindon (but having a lot of possession!), and i'm not impressed by 2 wins out of 11 in league 1, even with the squad we have...3 -
Positives:
- Resilience: came back from 1 down
- Reasonable attendance considering rail strike and recent form
- Got a point
- Some brilliant play at times for almost tens of seconds- I don't think we had any injuries- 35 matches to go- Unbeaten at home
Negatives:
(see thread)3 -
A really good post match discussion in the studio, going on to 5:50! Mortimer salivating over playing with Paul McGrath.
There's a fundamental problem, in that we don't (as we all know) have a striker who can play as a lone striker, which you need in a 433. Thus you have the problem of how to play Stockley and Leaburn together.
Play 442, then you need 2 Dobson types in midfield as most oppositions will play 3 there, and are better than Oxford. While both times we've played 3 at the back under Garner, we've been awful. AND we have a team full of wingers, not designed to play 352...1 -
When Garner came in & told us about his possession game the majority seemed really pleased. I thought it sounds like Robinson's sidewards, backwards, let the oppo get 11 men behind the ball shite.
I kept quiet & my fingers crossed.
But my worse fears are a reality.
If we go back to playing 'normal' football I think we'll improve, the players will regain some confidence and we'll pick up a bit.10 -
I know it’s now a long time since we were “up there” but my god how far we have fallen.
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Morts not a fan of possession football for the sake of it, he's not worried about losing control of midfield if we can be more dangerous in the opposition half4
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Just not good enough.
Even our better passages of play seem to end in panic stations once we lose the ball. We are far too easy to play through. As for the high press? A figment of Sandgaard's imagination.1 -
That’s the problem. Our Forwrads are shiteMuttleyCAFC said:I won't argue but none of our forwrads can play as a one so you have to address that as a priority.0 -
Fraser was impressive in the tackle second half. Very encouraging to see him get stuck in, at leastkillerandflash said:A really good post match discussion in the studio, going on to 5:50! Mortimer salivating over playing with Paul McGrath.
There's a fundamental problem, in that we don't (as we all know) have a striker who can play as a lone striker, which you need in a 433. Thus you have the problem of how to play Stockley and Leaburn together.
Play 442, then you need 2 Dobson types in midfield as most oppositions will play 3 there, and are better than Oxford. While both times we've played 3 at the back under Garner, we've been awful. AND we have a team full of wingers, not designed to play 352...7 -
Season over and its the 1st of October. Depressing1
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Ronnie, what did our creative midfielder Fraser do exactly to justify a match score of 9.5 on the ratings? Don't like to dig out people's scores, but genuinely perplexed...6
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It works for Man City. That how the little bit of Sandgaards brain that knows about football sees it. You look at what you have in terms of players, look at the budget and work accordingly from there. It is what should have happened after last season.Covered End said:When Garner came in & told us about his possession game the majority seemed really pleased. I thought it sounds like Robinson's sidewards, backwards, let the oppo get 11 men behind the ball shite.
I kept quiet & my fingers crossed.
But my worse fears are a reality.
If we go back to playing 'normal' football I think we'll improve, the players will regain some confidence and we'll pick up a bit.1 -
Just home,that 1st half was utter dross,from both sides. 2nd half was an improvement,which wasnt difficult,but still pretty turgid. I was just plain bored tbh. Lovely bit of play for our goal and Dobbo shouldve won it for us late on when 1v1. Its becoming a chore going to the valley these days and im sad about that.2
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It’s simple mate and par for the course, attention seeking, trolling 🥱.Jonniesta said:Ronnie, what did our creative midfielder Fraser do exactly to justify a match score of 9.5 on the ratings? Don't like to dig out people's scores, but genuinely perplexed...0
