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God Save Our Queen - Funeral will be Mon 19th September (p26)
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The Monarchy is safe inThe King's hands. I'm currently watching him meeting members of the Scottish Parliament and he is talking and laughing with them. It can't be easy after losing his mother, but he is following in his mother's footsteps and doing his duty.0
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Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s deathShootersHillGuru said:
Not yet it’s notcafctom said:
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above isnt morally wrong.5 -
But not a reason to be arrested ? Don’t get me wrong here. I think those making a protest at this point are misguided and disrespectful but they have the hard won right to peaceful protest and as long as it’s peaceful then they should be allowed to protest without interference from the police.cafctom said:
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s deathShootersHillGuru said:
Not yet it’s notcafctom said:
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.
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My father was one of eleven children. He was born in 1914, and the family were absolutely dirt poor living in Lambeth.carly burn said:There's queues. And there's QUEUES!
Anyway he told me of church and charity established 'boys clubs'.
There was no money or equipment, and maybe some kind of hut or small hall for the kids to meet of an evening.
That left the probably the one or two volunteer adults to think up things for the boys to do.
So one 'game' was called the 'Seven bridges'.
That basically meant that the boys would start a run at the south side of Lambeth Bridge, and then have to run up the Thames, crossing every one of the bridges until running south across Tower Bridge, then run back to Lambeth through 'The Elephant'.
To be met with some home made Lemonade.
'It killed us' my old dad used to say.
The map above reminds me of that little story.6 -
If a pensioner wants to stand, alone, near to Windsor Castle, say, holding up a sign that says, for example, "Putin Go To Hell", I don't think he should be attested and charged.cafctom said:
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s deathShootersHillGuru said:
Not yet it’s notcafctom said:
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.
I'm sure the Monarchy will survive most forms of protest.
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Rule number 1 of a protest: seek attention.cafctom said:
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.
I don’t agree with doing it at a funeral, but when else can you be seen and heard with Prince nonce-a-lot present?0 -
Vigil of the Princes has started1
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So powerful. Very moving. What a horrible position to be in.0
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Prince Charles looks absolutely shattered.
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So.
Reports early said sainsbury's, tescos and other stores would close for four hours on the day of the funeral.
John lewis , waitrose, primark and few others for the day.
Sainsbury's are now closing for the day.
The 4 hours for sainsbury's was for the big stores.0 -
Not the appropriate time for lol's, but coming from you, that really takes the biscuit !Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
RIP ma'am, and thank you for your sterling service and dedication2 -
Been counting the people for the last hour.
9326 going in to see the Queen0 -
sounds like a fun eveningclb74 said:Been counting the people for the last hour.
9326 going in to see the Queen5 -
Will update on the hourcafcfan1990 said:
sounds like a fun eveningclb74 said:Been counting the people for the last hour.
9326 going in to see the Queen2 -
I think you missed 3 while typing that messageclb74 said:Been counting the people for the last hour.
9326 going in to see the Queen0 -
Just been told sainsbury's staff have to take the day as holidayclb74 said:So.
Reports early said sainsbury's, tescos and other stores would close for four hours on the day of the funeral.
John lewis , waitrose, primark and few others for the day.
Sainsbury's are now closing for the day.
The 4 hours for sainsbury's was for the big stores.0 -
See a queue and join it , a Great British tradition.
Pray for clb's niece and nephew4 -
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I agree. I’m not that interested in the monarchy. I won’t be going up to pay my respects. It was sad to see her passing and she has done a tremendous amount for this country. It’s obvious she means so much to so many, particularly those that are lining the streets.cafctom said:
Right. But there’s still a grieving family present, a coffin and 99.9% of people in presence who are willing to be respectful to the occasion marking somebody’s deathShootersHillGuru said:
Not yet it’s notcafctom said:
I see where you are coming from, but think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.Chizz said:
This may be a bit contentious, but a very small amount of public dissent would be a good thing. Rather than the preposterous sight of someone being threatened with arrest for holding up a piece of paper, on which he might write "not my King" (as it reported to have happened today) it would be good to see a few people upholding the hard-won rights to free speech.cafctom said:
Looking at social media it appears there have been a handful of people who have tried to do exactly that in their own way - and made a few news headlines.AFKABartram said:My main concern is with another week to go, now the initial shock and response has passed, we’ll start to see an increase in incidents of anti-monarchist / republican / rights campaigners seeking to be disrupters / making a name for themselves.Really, really hope I’m wrong and people positively surprise me. Feel like we’ve seen the UK at its best over the last few days and I’d hate that to go south. Just a week of dignity & respect, not a massive ask is it?
Sadly I think it’s inevitable that it’s going to happen, and in 7 days from now more people will have plucked up the courage to try making a name for themselves.
One of the great things that distinguishes this great country from many others is tolerance and acceptance of people's right to hold a differing opinion. Showing off to the world that we can be both brilliant in the way we accommodate and run a state occasion and that we can tolerate listening to people share their rights to free speech would be a very good thing, in my view.
As long as protests don't disrupt, don't cause harm or alarm, don't prevent people going about their business and don't prevent or delay the pomp and ceremony of the next few days, I think the Monarchy can survive a few narcissists wanting their moment of limelight.
I would always prefer to see pictures of people protesting peacefully, than pictures of protesters being stopped, violently.
I hope there are no protests. But, if there are, it's important they're tolerated, as long as they're within the law; and stopped, immediately, if they break the law. (After all, what's the point in having a Tower of London and not using it..?)
Peaceful protest or not - it’s somebody’s funeral.There’s nothing illegal about their “protest” I guess, but nobody’s going to convince me that the attention seeking behaviour to try and disrupt the above is morally wrong.People should of course be allowed to protest, but why not just wait until the end of next week. Any sort of protest now, in amongst a sea of people that care is just going to be seen as antagonistic. I kind of see it a bit like threads on here. There’s many on topics I don’t like, but I don’t open one up just to go on there to tell the people that do want to talk about it that it’s a waste of time4 -
Someone's made a pretty good job of crochet-bombing our local post box.
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Judging by his facial expression he doesn't look that impressed!Stig said:Someone's made a pretty good job of crochet-bombing our local post box.4 -
One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.1 -
On Saturday, Millwall, QPR, Watford and Orient are also at home, plus several London non league sides. On Sunday Brentford's game is currently still going aheadJohnBoyUK said:One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
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I noticed a few Lancashire police vehicles in town todayJohnBoyUK said:One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.0 -
I would imagine the authorities on high alert for any terrorist chatter as well. I can only imagine this sort of occasion and between now and the funeral is something that is very high risk.killerandflash said:
On Saturday, Millwall, QPR, Watford and Orient are also at home, plus several London non league sides. On Sunday Brentford's game is currently still going aheadJohnBoyUK said:One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.
I can see all being at risk0 -
It's a coup. Southern soft bastards all busy policing a queue, Manchester metropolitan take control.O-Randy-Hunt said:
I noticed a few Lancashire police vehicles in town todayJohnBoyUK said:One of my friends who is in the Met and in a senior position in the team allocating man power across the London Boroughs for big events told us there's a dry run of the funeral in the small hours of Tuesday and then Wednesday. Depending the results, more police could get drafted in which means its likely that all football gets shelved up to the funeral. Just something to bear in mind.
As it stand, Spurs v Leicester is still on but policing is being provided by Leicestershire police, not the Met due to the circumstances.2 -
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