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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • If we swapped Gilbey and DJ for Scully it would be great business. Then JFC out for a CB. I'd be feeling pretty confident then to be honest. 
    Could JFC play CB?
  • Could JFC play CB?
    Wouldn't have thought so. 
  • You can doff your hat to me as well, I said the day Leaburn signed a pro contract our search for a striker was over. Thomas aint gonna part with any cash for the likes of a Stockton
    You may be right, but at the back of my mind I suspect Thomas is expecting big bids to come in for Miles, which he’d probably accept. Leaving us with two strikers, one of whom is (and often is) injured, the other of whom has a suspect back. 
    It’d make sense to invest a bit, surely, in which case he might end up with a second saleable asset. 
  • Floebot said:
    Heard from a friend who met Michael Beale tonight that we couldn't afford his buyout as it would have eaten significantly into our transfer budget. 
    We have a transfer budget ?
  • JamesSeed said:
    You may be right, but at the back of my mind I suspect Thomas is expecting big bids to come in for Miles, which he’d probably accept. Leaving us with two strikers, one of whom is (and often is) injured, the other of whom has a suspect back. 
    It’d make sense to invest a bit, surely, in which case he might end up with a second saleable asset. 
    Unless Tracey puts her foot down & says he's not going anywhere  :D
  • You can doff your hat to me as well, I said the day Leaburn signed a pro contract our search for a striker was over. Thomas aint gonna part with any cash for the likes of a Stockton
    And rightly so. Stockton is a one season wonder! Spending cash on him would be a stupid idea. Tommy has proved that he will spend cash on the right player, Stockton isn't the right player.
  • All I can say is if we leave it until deadline day & then a deal for a striker falls apart & we end up not signing one then this season is going to be a waste.

    We have had since June to sign a striker and knew we were light up front ever since we let Washington leave.We've signed so many midfielders/wingers we are now having to unload 1 or 2 fringe players just to give us the option of signing someone. With the news that Aneke could be weeks away from even making the bench (thus missing the first 10 or 12 games) means we are going into games with just 2 strikers (one of which is young & inexperienced and imo about as good as Davison). No other League 1 club who is seriously looking at promotion would leave themselves in this position. 

    Madness.
    I agree with most of your post but from what i've seen of Leaburn so far, he's better than Davison.

    I'd be interested to know from those who watch our U21 games what people think of Kanu. Obviously his goalscoring record is amazing and he's not 18 until November, but given our striking options are pretty threadbare it surely can't be long before we see him on the bench for a league game?
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    Different players and Leaburn has bags of potential but he needs nuturing. If Stockley gets injured we could be potentially be relying on him as a loan striker and apart from being crazy in terms of our ambitions, it would be very unfair on the lad.

    I am sorry, but this you need three windows in complete crap. Any players perform well they will be sold so how do you build with that approach? I like McGrandles, he was terrific at the Valley last season but our need was and is for a striker and probably a centre half. I have no problem with Henry knocking at the door either. We also have two able midfield reserves we have trouble getting shot of. It is obvious where the priority areas are. 
  • And rightly so. Stockton is a one season wonder! Spending cash on him would be a stupid idea. Tommy has proved that he will spend cash on the right player, Stockton isn't the right player.
    Agreed their no value in him
    given his age … most people going on about him have only seen him once at the valley last season .. but need to ask yourself why have no other the bigger clubs in league one gone for him 
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  • supaclive said:
    Come come now @Henry Irving
    People have gone about a centre forward because Washington was let go, Burstow returned to  Chelsea and Davison was sold.
    Three out
    None in
    Madness
    Why post the same thing every day?

    Agree we need one but only two have gone in reality as Davison was out on loan in the second half of the season. We’re also playing 4-3-3 so don’t need as many out and out strikers.
  • People have gone on about a striker coz it’s the biggest single issue that needs addressing and it’s on their minds - maybe if they were as intelligent as Henry they’d be discussing something else but aren’t that lucky - probably best to close this thread for their / our own good 
  • edited August 2022
    Agreed their no value in him
    given his age … most people going on about him have only seen him once at the valley last season .. but need to ask yourself why have no other the bigger clubs in league one gone for him 
    The value in Stockton is if he's scores the goals that get us promoted.

    Mendonca was late twenties but helped us to promotion, so good value. 
  • I imagine Kanu will be involved v Gillingham.

    He's young, quite slim, and about 5"7' or 8' at a guess.

    He's a natural goalscorer and  finisher but as seen v Sheff Utd U21s he can struggle up against a big, decent centre back.

    In that game he did little until both sides went down to ten men.

    With the extra space he came alive and scored twice late on.

    He did similar goal wise v Sheffield Wednesday (I haven't seen the goals).

    If people don't think Leaburn is ready yet and at least shouldn't be seen as first choice then Kanu is behind him size and development wise but Kanu is growing and learning so who knows?

    Personally I don't think he's the answer YET and he's certainly not cover or a replacement for Stockley (who gets too little credit for his work IMHO).

    Rak-Saki is not much older and we've already seen he can blow hot and cold, like most young players.

    I still want and think we need another striker who can play down to middle, link the play, win the ball in the air and score goals ala Mark Bright because this is a fairly young side and experience and know how go a long way.

    I expect so do Gallen and Garner, or they may prefer a younger model, if available.

    But I'm not going to go on and on and on about signing a striker 24/7 as it is as pointless as it is tedious and it was tedious back in May when the whinging about it started.
    Quite right. 

    We’ve got days until the window slams shut. So let’s pause the moaning until then. 
  • supaclive said:
    Come come now @Henry Irving
    People have gone about a centre forward because Washington was let go, Burstow returned to  Chelsea and Davison was sold.
    Three out
    None in
    Madness
    Look at it closely how many would have been starters in this system answer none .. 
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  • Look at it closely how many would have been starters in this system answer none .. 
    valid point about the players leaving not being starters in this system. The problem is, we currently only have one experienced starter in this system and that's stockley!!!! That makes the madness comment very relevant. I'm confident that a young bench warmer will join on loan to boost numbers but still worried about who will play if/when stockley gets injured or suspended.
  • And rightly so. Stockton is a one season wonder! Spending cash on him would be a stupid idea. Tommy has proved that he will spend cash on the right player, Stockton isn't the right player.
    I said "the likes of a Stockton" not specifically Stockton himself.

    I hope I am wrong as we badly need someone else up front but my gut feeling is TS thinks we have enough.
  • I said "the likes of a Stockton" not specifically Stockton himself.

    I hope I am wrong as we badly need someone else up front but my gut feeling is TS thinks we have enough.
    That’s the problem, ‘TS thinks’. I’m sure that is not what the Manager thinks.
  • If we let JFC and Gilbey go without replacing them, we'd still have 5 senior midfielders for 3 places. Plus Henry, plus the other emergency options, and yes Sessegnon can play in midfield as he said so himself. Henry will be 19 in a week's time, I don't see why he can't get some game time now.

    Of course we'd love lots of experienced cover in all areas, but we have squad number restrictions, and budget restrictions. We need another striker, another centre back and possibly another full back.
    Sessegnon has played two senior games at central midfield. Once in a banter Fulham team in the FA Cup that got beaten 4-0 by City and once when he came on there for an entire 6 minutes. He 'can' play there, he doesn't play there. Relying on him as a serious option as back up (especially when he's our only senior left back) is not a plan. When people talk about versatility they often forget that the versatile player is probably needed somewhere else as well. You don't have cover for your entire squad just because you have one player who can play every position, because as soon as you have more than one absence you're screwed.
    I agree it would be good to fill those three positions. CB is essential as we currently have 3 senior centre backs, one of whom is extremely injury prone, that's a must-have. We'd benefit massively from another striker to compete with Stockley and while Clayden has looked decent as cover I'd be nervous about him having a very extended run. If there's only budget for one though then it has to be the CB first. I'd like to keep JFC to be honest, if no-one is after him then we could do much worse than have him in the squad.
  • Burstow was never a main striking option, he was only ever really a kid used in an emergency, so you could argue that Leaburn has replaced him already.

    Davison wasn't here the second half of last season anyway.

    We need to replace Washington.
    Agree on all three points.

    Now, the more important question: Why haven't we signed another defender? Madness if we don't, we've had all summer 

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  • Burstow was never a main striking option, he was only ever really a kid used in an emergency, so you could argue that Leaburn has replaced him already.

    Davison wasn't here the second half of last season anyway.

    We need to replace Washington.
    We are playing a different system, to try to analyse/compare we would probably have to look at the ins and outs across LW, ST, RW. That is a fairer comparator.

    For the comparison to deliver what we are looking for, ie goals, we need League 1 equivalents to Salah, Sterling, Mane, Mahrez etc. Too early to tell whether we have those in our locker…?


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