Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

Cafc43v3r said:

Todds_right_hook said:

Fansince1963 said:

I do not blame Lyle Taylor for leaving Charlton. He was under the Southhall regime. (A miracle we survived that episode). We need a goal scorer , goals with help us get promotion. Stockley is a good lad, but definitely needs a partner. I would have him back. League One is level.

Southall was booted out before Taylor went on strike.....just saying 

Yep and you would trust Paul Elliottttttt to see you right.

Not saying that, simply straightening out discrepancies in the original post

Adrian Durham talksport said last night that we are interested in scully from lincoln... how true I don't know

killerandflash said:

Garrymanilow said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I would rather keep Clare over Egbo in all honesty. No way should we lose Clare and even more crazy to lose Dobson. Why did we sign McGrandles if we were short in other areas, why did we sign Aneke (we haven't had an answer to that one). Why did we take the option on JFC's contract if we want rid? 

We play with a midfield three, so we need 6 central midfielders to have proper squad cover. Garner has already shown he's big on rotating in the midfield. When we signed McGrandles he became the 6th centre mid in a squad where we were expecting two other midfielders to probably leave. We then signed Payne to make 7, though he's generally been played further forward rather than in the midfield three when he's played. If we hadn't signed McGrandles when we had the chance and he'd gone elsewhere and we'd still be looking to shift the other two but with no-one in. We'll probably shift Gilbey soon and possibly JFC on deadline day, and then we'd be running round feverishly trying to get centre mids in before the window closed while people whined that we always leave our business to the last minute and Sandgaard doesn't know how to build a squad. We'd also likely get a worse player because we shrugged our shoulders and ignored a target becoming available. Matt Smith v.3 anyone?

The reason Clare has come up is because we're apparently talking to him about an extension and there's no indication we're going to lose Dobson either, there's not really a lot of need to panic about that just yet..

There's no reason that we have to have 6 senior midfielders though, especially as we have youngsters like Henry coming through, and others like Clare and Sessegnon who can also play there IF we had more cover in the full back areas.
Players like Dobson and Morgan are the types who are likely to play the full 90 anyway, it's in forward positions where you need impact from the bench.

Moving goalposts. By the same token there's no reason we need to have 3 senior strikers. We have Stockley, Aneke and Leaburn who at this point is streets ahead of Henry and the rest. Aneke is injury-prone, but then so is JFC, and for longer, sometimes season-long periods. Who was the striker we wanted who was readily available at the same time as McGrandles who we could have signed that we missed out on I wonder? Clare is our right back and a disasterpiece at central midfield, and not only is Sessegnon not actually a centre mid at all, as you say we don't have senior cover at LB. Saying we don't need to have enough midfielders because we could use that money to just about have enough left backs to play one totally out of position is bonkers. May as well say JFC is our senior back up LB by that logic, he's played more senior games there than Sessegnon has at central midfield. Henry is the youngster at central midfield coming through but there aren't any others remotely ready, certainly not looking any more ready than Kanu, and Henry still has a huge amount to show before he's a serious consideration. Central midfield will be the key part of the way Garner plays and he needs options there, and the right player was available. We will rotate massively, we've already seen McGrandles pick up two injuries since he started, we'll need to use a whole squad throughout the season and we'll really feel it if we're light there. I guarantee we'd get by better having to play Clayden at LB all season than we would having to play Henry there all season if it came to it.

Billyboy said:

Adrian Durham talksport said last night that we are interested in scully from lincoln... how true I don't know

That would be a cracking signing

mart77 said:

Billyboy said:

Adrian Durham talksport said last night that we are interested in scully from lincoln... how true I don't know

That would be a cracking signing

We have no chance as this article suggests that Charlton Town are also interested.

https://www.blackpoolgazette.co.uk/sport/football/blackpool-fc/lincoln-city-could-cash-in-on-rumoured-blackpool-peterborough-united-and-sunderland-target-3815237

Cafc43v3r said:

Garrymanilow said:

killerandflash said:

Garrymanilow said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I would rather keep Clare over Egbo in all honesty. No way should we lose Clare and even more crazy to lose Dobson. Why did we sign McGrandles if we were short in other areas, why did we sign Aneke (we haven't had an answer to that one). Why did we take the option on JFC's contract if we want rid? 

We play with a midfield three, so we need 6 central midfielders to have proper squad cover. Garner has already shown he's big on rotating in the midfield. When we signed McGrandles he became the 6th centre mid in a squad where we were expecting two other midfielders to probably leave. We then signed Payne to make 7, though he's generally been played further forward rather than in the midfield three when he's played. If we hadn't signed McGrandles when we had the chance and he'd gone elsewhere and we'd still be looking to shift the other two but with no-one in. We'll probably shift Gilbey soon and possibly JFC on deadline day, and then we'd be running round feverishly trying to get centre mids in before the window closed while people whined that we always leave our business to the last minute and Sandgaard doesn't know how to build a squad. We'd also likely get a worse player because we shrugged our shoulders and ignored a target becoming available. Matt Smith v.3 anyone?

The reason Clare has come up is because we're apparently talking to him about an extension and there's no indication we're going to lose Dobson either, there's not really a lot of need to panic about that just yet..

There's no reason that we have to have 6 senior midfielders though, especially as we have youngsters like Henry coming through, and others like Clare and Sessegnon who can also play there IF we had more cover in the full back areas.
Players like Dobson and Morgan are the types who are likely to play the full 90 anyway, it's in forward positions where you need impact from the bench.

Moving goalposts. By the same token there's no reason we need to have 3 senior strikers. We have Stockley, Aneke and Leaburn who at this point is streets ahead of Henry and the rest. Aneke is injury-prone, but then so is JFC, and for longer, sometimes season-long periods. Who was the striker we wanted who was readily available at the same time as McGrandles who we could have signed that we missed out on I wonder? Clare is our right back and a disasterpiece at central midfield, and not only is Sessegnon not actually a centre mid at all, as you say we don't have senior cover at LB. Saying we don't need to have enough midfielders because we could use that money to just about have enough left backs to play one totally out of position is bonkers. May as well say JFC is our senior back up LB by that logic, he's played more senior games there than Sessegnon has at central midfield. Henry is the youngster at central midfield coming through but there aren't any others remotely ready, certainly not looking any more ready than Kanu, and Henry still has a huge amount to show before he's a serious consideration. Central midfield will be the key part of the way Garner plays and he needs options there, and the right player was available. We will rotate massively, we've already seen McGrandles pick up two injuries since he started, we'll need to use a whole squad throughout the season and we'll really feel it if we're light there. I guarantee we'd get by better having to play Clayden at LB all season than we would having to play Henry there all season if it came to it.

I can't honestly say I disagree with a word you said there.  But 

We needed a center forward in May.  We released Washington, then sold Davison.  

If the reason we haven't signed a center foward is purely wage budget, someone has dropped a clanger somewhere.  If.

It's a big if because it's all 2+2=5.

Personally I think it's Gilbey out for a center half and then it's either a "money" player out for a striker or a last minute loan.

I don't believe getting JFC or MacGillivray off the wage bill would be enough to bring a decent striker in.

This.  We’ve two players in every position for our current formation except for CB.  Midfield we have three for each position (not including CDM).  So it makes sense, I think we’re going to have to live with the idea that Leaburn is the back up when the inevitable injury happens/happening to Aneke.  

OH BOLLOX ! 

I have just realised there are only 6 days to go until we all have to take our hats off to Golfie and say he was right for months ! Come on Thomas make it so it doesnt happen !!!

cafcfan1990 said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

The last few posts illustrate perfectly the dilemma facing the club. It’s not at all easy getting business done on a tight budget and with financial restrictions. Our rebuild is in my opinion a two or even three window process.

But with the owner wanting to cut losses that’s only going to become more difficult. Not sure it qualifies as a rebuild if the squad becomes smaller and/or weaker every season 

Is it smaller or weaker than last season ? 

Scoham said:

Here's a made up rumour to pass the time.

https://twitter.com/2kidsPrimavera/status/1562513955998044167?s=20&t=lfAyt_LJ7zserDcV8tdARWWvjEy0JxN86GdgimKq_bc

That account is so full of shit.

I didn’t realise Adomah was playing against us till after the QPR cup game was over and I was at the game. Would have liked him 10 years ago.

killerandflash said:

Garrymanilow said:

killerandflash said:

Garrymanilow said:

MuttleyCAFC said:

I would rather keep Clare over Egbo in all honesty. No way should we lose Clare and even more crazy to lose Dobson. Why did we sign McGrandles if we were short in other areas, why did we sign Aneke (we haven't had an answer to that one). Why did we take the option on JFC's contract if we want rid? 

We play with a midfield three, so we need 6 central midfielders to have proper squad cover. Garner has already shown he's big on rotating in the midfield. When we signed McGrandles he became the 6th centre mid in a squad where we were expecting two other midfielders to probably leave. We then signed Payne to make 7, though he's generally been played further forward rather than in the midfield three when he's played. If we hadn't signed McGrandles when we had the chance and he'd gone elsewhere and we'd still be looking to shift the other two but with no-one in. We'll probably shift Gilbey soon and possibly JFC on deadline day, and then we'd be running round feverishly trying to get centre mids in before the window closed while people whined that we always leave our business to the last minute and Sandgaard doesn't know how to build a squad. We'd also likely get a worse player because we shrugged our shoulders and ignored a target becoming available. Matt Smith v.3 anyone?

The reason Clare has come up is because we're apparently talking to him about an extension and there's no indication we're going to lose Dobson either, there's not really a lot of need to panic about that just yet..

There's no reason that we have to have 6 senior midfielders though, especially as we have youngsters like Henry coming through, and others like Clare and Sessegnon who can also play there IF we had more cover in the full back areas.
Players like Dobson and Morgan are the types who are likely to play the full 90 anyway, it's in forward positions where you need impact from the bench.

Moving goalposts. By the same token there's no reason we need to have 3 senior strikers. We have Stockley, Aneke and Leaburn who at this point is streets ahead of Henry and the rest. Aneke is injury-prone, but then so is JFC, and for longer, sometimes season-long periods. Who was the striker we wanted who was readily available at the same time as McGrandles who we could have signed that we missed out on I wonder? Clare is our right back and a disasterpiece at central midfield, and not only is Sessegnon not actually a centre mid at all, as you say we don't have senior cover at LB. Saying we don't need to have enough midfielders because we could use that money to just about have enough left backs to play one totally out of position is bonkers. May as well say JFC is our senior back up LB by that logic, he's played more senior games there than Sessegnon has at central midfield. Henry is the youngster at central midfield coming through but there aren't any others remotely ready, certainly not looking any more ready than Kanu, and Henry still has a huge amount to show before he's a serious consideration. Central midfield will be the key part of the way Garner plays and he needs options there, and the right player was available. We will rotate massively, we've already seen McGrandles pick up two injuries since he started, we'll need to use a whole squad throughout the season and we'll really feel it if we're light there. I guarantee we'd get by better having to play Clayden at LB all season than we would having to play Henry there all season if it came to it.

If we let JFC and Gilbey go without replacing them, we'd still have 5 senior midfielders for 3 places. Plus Henry, plus the other emergency options, and yes Sessegnon can play in midfield as he said so himself. Henry will be 19 in a week's time, I don't see why he can't get some game time now.

Of course we'd love lots of experienced cover in all areas, but we have squad number restrictions, and budget restrictions. We need another striker, another centre back and possibly another full back.

I think if we had a couple of injuries in midfield we'd see Clare move there as we'd still have Egbo (when he's back of course), Sessegnon and Clayden to fill the full back spots. I can see the argument for keeping one of JFC and Gilbey, but 5 plus Clare/Henry could just about be manageable.

If we swapped Gilbey and DJ for Scully it would be great business. Then JFC out for a CB. I'd be feeling pretty confident then to be honest. 

Billyboy said:

Adrian Durham talksport said last night that we are interested in scully from lincoln... how true I don't know

Hence the “chain”.

We don’t let them have Gilbert unless we get Scully.