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Wars come and go.ValleyGary said:
Exactly. I am very energy efficient, I only drive a car once a week, I haven't flown in ages, I recycle etc etc etc and im one of the people that said 'its a couple of days ffs'. Not because I don't think climate change isn't serious or that this should be ignored, its just because the media will soon have another sensationalist story to push, the leaders of the world dont really give a fuck and I find it all a bit hysteric. I''ll sweat my bollocks off today but tomorrow something else in life will be bothering me. But i'll still be energy efficient.....eaststandmike said:
Out of interest SHG, what do I need waking up to. What are you doing to save the planet and make it cooler that I am not doing or ignorant to?ShootersHillGuru said:
I think you only need to read some of the posts in this thread to see that the past few days will have zero impact as a wake up call to a lot of people.colthe3rd said:
Agree it takes all of us to make a difference. I see too many people bemoaning the lack of governments and corporations around the world doing their biut, while that is true we all still need to be doing our bit both directly (do we need to be driving our cars all the time? Can we use less electricity at home? Can we insulate better? Switch to greener methods of power?) if everyone did these then yes it would make a difference. Of course the biggest polluters need to do something as well so we can do that by not voting for politicians who refuse to acknowledge this is a serious issue, stop buying from companies who continue to destroy the planet for profit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Good point. I guess we should all be doing our tiny bit but in reality we need government policy and significant financial help to become more eco efficient. Those of us who might be able to do something unilaterally will be doing so but the vast majority of houses, flats and dwellings will remain inefficient because people just can’t afford to make the changes that matter. I’d still say switching off a single light helps. Unfortunately we are not doing anywhere near enough despite government bollox.clb74 said:
So what are we doing ourselves to save the planet?ShootersHillGuru said:Politicians are arseholes. Nothing bold enough will be done regarding climate change until it’s too late. Sooner or later there will be a major climate catastrophe in one of the big cities in one of the big countries and a few hundred thousand will die. Only then will the political classes wake up and act. Until then it’s just a green tick to put on their manifestos. I have zero doubt that at some point in the future life as we currently live it will change forever. Humans really are quite stupid creatures.
There is so much whataboutery whenever people are asked about what they are doing to help, hopefully these past few days will be a wake up call to many.
Inflation comes and goes.
Governments come and go.
Climate change in 40-50 years will be the only thing that will bother the population, and by then it will be far too late.
The main problem is the same media/talking heads that cry about the weather this week, will be the same people sounding the drums of war when any government tries to help the problem.3 -
2 sausage rolls, a steak bake and 3 jam doughnuts.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Will Gregg incoming?paulfox said:Big fire, Bexley way2 -
But the Green party have been around for years and never get anywhere in the elections.cantersaddick said:
If everyone recognised this as the massive issue that it is rather than being indifferent and waiting for someone else to take the lead then governments would be forced into action. Or people would vote for parties and candidates that would take action and so those that didnt would be out.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest SHG, what do I need waking up to. What are you doing to save the planet and make it cooler that I am not doing or ignorant to?ShootersHillGuru said:
I think you only need to read some of the posts in this thread to see that the past few days will have zero impact as a wake up call to a lot of people.colthe3rd said:
Agree it takes all of us to make a difference. I see too many people bemoaning the lack of governments and corporations around the world doing their biut, while that is true we all still need to be doing our bit both directly (do we need to be driving our cars all the time? Can we use less electricity at home? Can we insulate better? Switch to greener methods of power?) if everyone did these then yes it would make a difference. Of course the biggest polluters need to do something as well so we can do that by not voting for politicians who refuse to acknowledge this is a serious issue, stop buying from companies who continue to destroy the planet for profit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Good point. I guess we should all be doing our tiny bit but in reality we need government policy and significant financial help to become more eco efficient. Those of us who might be able to do something unilaterally will be doing so but the vast majority of houses, flats and dwellings will remain inefficient because people just can’t afford to make the changes that matter. I’d still say switching off a single light helps. Unfortunately we are not doing anywhere near enough despite government bollox.clb74 said:
So what are we doing ourselves to save the planet?ShootersHillGuru said:Politicians are arseholes. Nothing bold enough will be done regarding climate change until it’s too late. Sooner or later there will be a major climate catastrophe in one of the big cities in one of the big countries and a few hundred thousand will die. Only then will the political classes wake up and act. Until then it’s just a green tick to put on their manifestos. I have zero doubt that at some point in the future life as we currently live it will change forever. Humans really are quite stupid creatures.
There is so much whataboutery whenever people are asked about what they are doing to help, hopefully these past few days will be a wake up call to many.0 -
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.5 -
Familiar viewBaldybonce said:Big fire somewhere down river
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Dartford Heath alight by all accounts matepalarsehater said:yep im on a trading estate in crayford and seriously smokey out the front and the smell is awful looks to be coming from behind crayford sainsburys0 -
Because on the priority list, people put 'the environment' near the bottom.eaststandmike said:
But the Green party have been around for years and never get anywhere in the elections.cantersaddick said:
If everyone recognised this as the massive issue that it is rather than being indifferent and waiting for someone else to take the lead then governments would be forced into action. Or people would vote for parties and candidates that would take action and so those that didnt would be out.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest SHG, what do I need waking up to. What are you doing to save the planet and make it cooler that I am not doing or ignorant to?ShootersHillGuru said:
I think you only need to read some of the posts in this thread to see that the past few days will have zero impact as a wake up call to a lot of people.colthe3rd said:
Agree it takes all of us to make a difference. I see too many people bemoaning the lack of governments and corporations around the world doing their biut, while that is true we all still need to be doing our bit both directly (do we need to be driving our cars all the time? Can we use less electricity at home? Can we insulate better? Switch to greener methods of power?) if everyone did these then yes it would make a difference. Of course the biggest polluters need to do something as well so we can do that by not voting for politicians who refuse to acknowledge this is a serious issue, stop buying from companies who continue to destroy the planet for profit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Good point. I guess we should all be doing our tiny bit but in reality we need government policy and significant financial help to become more eco efficient. Those of us who might be able to do something unilaterally will be doing so but the vast majority of houses, flats and dwellings will remain inefficient because people just can’t afford to make the changes that matter. I’d still say switching off a single light helps. Unfortunately we are not doing anywhere near enough despite government bollox.clb74 said:
So what are we doing ourselves to save the planet?ShootersHillGuru said:Politicians are arseholes. Nothing bold enough will be done regarding climate change until it’s too late. Sooner or later there will be a major climate catastrophe in one of the big cities in one of the big countries and a few hundred thousand will die. Only then will the political classes wake up and act. Until then it’s just a green tick to put on their manifestos. I have zero doubt that at some point in the future life as we currently live it will change forever. Humans really are quite stupid creatures.
There is so much whataboutery whenever people are asked about what they are doing to help, hopefully these past few days will be a wake up call to many.
Sad but true.1 -
The American military is one of the biggest contributing factors to climate change. Me washing out my yoghurt pot is a cute attempt at progress.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.0 -
Crayford exit on A2 I think:
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But, if those countries you mentioned are doing something, and apparently they are (expert on radio yesterday), should we do more ?superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.1 -
Yes, if we really went into this it could very easily be a massive driver of economic growth. We could develop new technologies. This could fund real change economically & socially whilst making real progress. Countries would soon follow suit. Part of what I said above was people changing their purchasing habits and buying more sustainably. That would force everyone in the supply chain to act more sustainably or lose out and would have a massive impact on the Chinese economy (and others) if they didn't adapt.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.6 -
I've heard it called a few things down the years but yoghurt pot is a new one on meshine166 said:
The American military is one of the biggest contributing factors to climate change. Me washing out my yoghurt pot is a cute attempt at progress.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.9 -
I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 764
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I own a ac and fridge company, and can’t afford to use us, my salesman on residential AC charges an absolute fortune, plus I don’t agree with residential (ac but might change my mind after today 😀) seems to me a bad waste of energy in the UK.Mendonca In Asdas said:
Who did you use CK?CharltonKerry said:
Not if you got AC😀❄️sam3110 said:The heat gets to some doesn't it0 -
Hex said:
But, if those countries you mentioned are doing something, and apparently they are (expert on radio yesterday), should we do more ?superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.
I hope that you are both correct.cantersaddick said:
Yes, if we really went into this it could very easily be a massive driver of economic growth. We could develop new technologies. This could fund real change economically & socially whilst making real progress. Countries would soon follow suit. Part of what I said above was people changing their purchasing habits and buying more sustainably. That would force everyone in the supply chain to act more sustainably or lose out and would have a massive impact on the Chinese economy (and others) if they didn't adapt.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.0 -
The reason for that is the indifference I was saying we need to tackle. Like I said it would require everyone (or a large majority of people) to change their attitudes.eaststandmike said:
But the Green party have been around for years and never get anywhere in the elections.cantersaddick said:
If everyone recognised this as the massive issue that it is rather than being indifferent and waiting for someone else to take the lead then governments would be forced into action. Or people would vote for parties and candidates that would take action and so those that didnt would be out.eaststandmike said:
Out of interest SHG, what do I need waking up to. What are you doing to save the planet and make it cooler that I am not doing or ignorant to?ShootersHillGuru said:
I think you only need to read some of the posts in this thread to see that the past few days will have zero impact as a wake up call to a lot of people.colthe3rd said:
Agree it takes all of us to make a difference. I see too many people bemoaning the lack of governments and corporations around the world doing their biut, while that is true we all still need to be doing our bit both directly (do we need to be driving our cars all the time? Can we use less electricity at home? Can we insulate better? Switch to greener methods of power?) if everyone did these then yes it would make a difference. Of course the biggest polluters need to do something as well so we can do that by not voting for politicians who refuse to acknowledge this is a serious issue, stop buying from companies who continue to destroy the planet for profit.ShootersHillGuru said:
Good point. I guess we should all be doing our tiny bit but in reality we need government policy and significant financial help to become more eco efficient. Those of us who might be able to do something unilaterally will be doing so but the vast majority of houses, flats and dwellings will remain inefficient because people just can’t afford to make the changes that matter. I’d still say switching off a single light helps. Unfortunately we are not doing anywhere near enough despite government bollox.clb74 said:
So what are we doing ourselves to save the planet?ShootersHillGuru said:Politicians are arseholes. Nothing bold enough will be done regarding climate change until it’s too late. Sooner or later there will be a major climate catastrophe in one of the big cities in one of the big countries and a few hundred thousand will die. Only then will the political classes wake up and act. Until then it’s just a green tick to put on their manifestos. I have zero doubt that at some point in the future life as we currently live it will change forever. Humans really are quite stupid creatures.
There is so much whataboutery whenever people are asked about what they are doing to help, hopefully these past few days will be a wake up call to many.
I'm not necessarily advocating for the green party (although they are my go to of late) but if everyone had this a priority it would force all parties to react and change their policies.0 -
The fire on Sky is in Upminster0
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As i said before it seems small but 64m people religiously making these "cute attempts" would force government and corporations attitudes to change. It would very quickly result in policy changes and R&D into new tech. Right now they just don't believe its a priority or that the demand is there. Making those small changes is the way we can show them it does matter whilst also making a small difference ourselves.shine166 said:
The American military is one of the biggest contributing factors to climate change. Me washing out my yoghurt pot is a cute attempt at progress.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.
These small changes we can make are economic and political signals that can drive further change. Please dont be put off but the seeming small scale of them.1 -
Its a yeast issueblackpool72 said:
I've heard it called a few things down the years but yoghurt pot is a new one on meshine166 said:
The American military is one of the biggest contributing factors to climate change. Me washing out my yoghurt pot is a cute attempt at progress.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.
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Yes they did, As an example Thornton Heath was still alight below ground for months after the drought broke.cabbles said:I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 762 -
Dartford Heath catches fire quite a few times every summercabbles said:I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 760 -
More Rainham/PurfleetRothko said:The fire on Sky is in Upminster0 -
Dartford Heath is set on fire quite a few times every summer...Lordflashheart said:
Dartford Heath catches fire quite a few times every summercabbles said:I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 760 -
Interesting, as I never realised that dry air can affect rain reaching the ground
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Took the local football ground up with it causing 5 shillings worth of damageCharltonKerry said:
Yes they did, As an example Thornton Heath was alight below ground for months after the drought broke.cabbles said:I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 762 -
Have you never heard of Spontaneous Heathland Combustion 😉killerandflash said:
Dartford Heath is set on fire quite a few times every summer...Lordflashheart said:
Dartford Heath catches fire quite a few times every summercabbles said:I wonder if we had fires like that one in Dartford back in 760 -
Thats the possibility, to make it happen we need everyone to do their bit, make those small changes to the way they live in order to drive the larger changes.superclive98 said:Hex said:
But, if those countries you mentioned are doing something, and apparently they are (expert on radio yesterday), should we do more ?superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.
I hope that you are both correct.cantersaddick said:
Yes, if we really went into this it could very easily be a massive driver of economic growth. We could develop new technologies. This could fund real change economically & socially whilst making real progress. Countries would soon follow suit. Part of what I said above was people changing their purchasing habits and buying more sustainably. That would force everyone in the supply chain to act more sustainably or lose out and would have a massive impact on the Chinese economy (and others) if they didn't adapt.superclive98 said:
My point is that if we in the UK all do as you suggest but China, the USA, India, Russia, etc don't, then will our efforts actually make any real difference to global warming?cantersaddick said:
Yes, it would. Not only would 64m people reducing waste, reducing usage living more environmentally have a significant impact on localised air quality, bio diversity, plant life etc. changes to our demand and purchasing preferences would also force corporations into making changes, driving R&D into green tech, which would in turn make them more efficient and bring the price down. It would also force the government to take serious action as everyones preferences would have changed.superclive98 said:If everybody in this country heeded all the warnings about climate change and altered the way that we live, would it actually change anything?
This in turn sets an example for other countries to follow.
Small things you can do:
- recycle religiously
- Opt for public transport where possible
- Plant a tree in your garden
- Have a small wildflower/wildgrasses section in your garden
- Try and adjust your purchases to reflect sustainably sourced good (may mean they are slightly more expensive but if you have to adjust to buy slightly less consumerist shite then thats another benefit)
- Eat less meat, 1 or 2 days a week have a veggie main meal. Where you do have meat, particularly red meat try and pad it out with lentils/beans/chickpeas/mushrooms/grated carrots etc. in order to have a smaller quantity of meat.
- Buy local food produce (can be funded by the savings from buying less meat)
Edit - Quiz your local MP candidates on their green credentials. Make it clear you will only vote for someone who takes it seriously and backs a proper plan.
By the way, I'm not saying that we shouldn't do what we can.
I cannot recommend enough the book A Life on Our Planet: My Witness Statement and Vision for the Future by David Attenborough. Its lays out pretty horribly the damage we have done to the planet and what the future will look like if we dont act now. Its pretty stark and scary. He finishes with outlining what can be done to change things and how we need to adapt. We are running out of time.
Alternatively watch any of his recent documentaries. I cant remember which one it was but one went through his lifetime following nature and showing how much of the earth was left as wild spaces each decade. Its a horribly stark message. There is hope but we need to act now.3 -
Dartford heath turn off, big fire on the A2.0
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Have friends in the Fire Service and have been told they are struggling to keep up with it.guinnessaddick said:Dartford heath turn off, big fire on the A2.
New Cross brigade/watch have been called in recently to help tackle it.
I've just been out and showered our grassy areas and decking to minimise any risk.0
