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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    ElliotCAFC said:
    RedJohn said:
    After Albies impressive showing in a DM role, maybe he prefers Albie to Dobson
    Agreed, he’s exactly the sort of player BG would use in the holding role - the Lidl Louis Reed.

    I can imagine Morgan/JFC being used there much more than Dobson this season
    I agree, in theory.  If you looked at the most like for like copy of the way Swindon set up you would say JFC behind MacGrandles and Fraser would be it. 

    What options did he have?  Did he set up like that because that's what he had or because that's how he wanted? 
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,921
    With effectively 2 separate 11s playing Tuesday and Saturday, it'll be interesting to compare them after tomorrow's game.

    It's a football cliche, but everyone starts with a clean slate under a new manager. Indeed this is the first completely clean break for a long long time, with no existing coaches retained, so Garner may spring a surprise when he picks his first side.
  • BR7_addick
    BR7_addick Posts: 10,215
    edited July 2022
    killerandflash said:
    With effectively 2 separate 11s playing Tuesday and Saturday, it'll be interesting to compare them after tomorrow's game.

    It's a football cliche, but everyone starts with a clean slate under a new manager. Indeed this is the first completely clean break for a long long time, with no existing coaches retained, so Garner may spring a surprise when he picks his first side.
    Agree said the other day he could easily shock us all and start Henry or Learburn.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,068
    RedRobin said:
    BR7_addick said:
    cabbles said:
    Do we think we’ll bring anyone else in before Accrington?

    If not, be interesting to see how we finally line up

    Mac/Wollacott - haven’t a clue who is first choice 

    Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon

    Morgan Dobson McGrandles (if fit)

    CBT Stockley Kirk

    Haven’t been following pre-season, so educated guess as to what I’ve picked up on here 

    Wollacott

    Clare, Innis, O’Connell, Sessegnon 

    Dobson, JFC

    Fraser 

    CBT, Stockley, Kirk 

    Subs: McGillivray, Lavelle, Clayden, Morgan, Jaiyesimi, Aneke, Leaburn

    Think this will be it if we sign nobody until then. 
    Even if we did sign someone, there's not much time to integrate them so they probably wouldn't start anyway. Unless of course they're a decent right back.
  • ElliotCAFC
    ElliotCAFC Posts: 2,553
    edited July 2022
    Cafc43v3r said:
    ElliotCAFC said:
    RedJohn said:
    After Albies impressive showing in a DM role, maybe he prefers Albie to Dobson
    Agreed, he’s exactly the sort of player BG would use in the holding role - the Lidl Louis Reed.

    I can imagine Morgan/JFC being used there much more than Dobson this season
    I agree, in theory.  If you looked at the most like for like copy of the way Swindon set up you would say JFC behind MacGrandles and Fraser would be it. 

    What options did he have?  Did he set up like that because that's what he had or because that's how he wanted? 
    I’m not well versed in Swindon’s transfer policy last year but I imagine he could have recruited a “destroyer” type player for holding midfield if he wanted to.  

    I think the salient foundation of BG’s philosophy is retention of the football, which makes me believe we will see a more ball playing midfielder holding. 

    Your suggestion is how I see our current strongest midfield 3. 
  • Bailey
    Bailey Posts: 3,276
    TelMc32 said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Only placing it here as he was once linked with us...


    ffs…now I’ve got the bloody hokey kokey in my head 😖
    That's what it's all about ! 
  • sam3110
    sam3110 Posts: 21,320
    My nagging question about Dobson has been "did he look that good last season because he was having to cover so many shortcomings of those around him?" 

    Do we need that style of midfielder to play week in week out? He's high energy, combative and excellent at mopping up ahead of the defence, but from what I've seen so far we'll be aiming to win the ball higher up than him, and we need the central midfielders to push on up the pitch and pin teams in their own box when we're in possession, and I'm not sure that's his game 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,266
    cabbles said:
    Do we think we’ll bring anyone else in before Accrington?

    If not, be interesting to see how we finally line up

    Mac/Wollacott - haven’t a clue who is first choice 

    Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon

    Morgan Dobson McGrandles (if fit)

    CBT Stockley Kirk

    Haven’t been following pre-season, so educated guess as to what I’ve picked up on here 
    No goals in that line-up
  • ChicagoAddick
    ChicagoAddick Posts: 4,398
    Southbank said:
    cabbles said:
    Do we think we’ll bring anyone else in before Accrington?

    If not, be interesting to see how we finally line up

    Mac/Wollacott - haven’t a clue who is first choice 

    Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon

    Morgan Dobson McGrandles (if fit)

    CBT Stockley Kirk

    Haven’t been following pre-season, so educated guess as to what I’ve picked up on here 
    No goals in that line-up
    No goals in any line-up permutation. 

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  • RodneyCharltonTrotta
    RodneyCharltonTrotta Posts: 14,832
    ValleyGary said:
    I know Garner has a style etc but George Dobson HAS to play. 
    Best player we have
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    RedJohn said:
    After Albies impressive showing in a DM role, maybe he prefers Albie to Dobson
    I wouldn't prefer Albie to a tree!
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    Dobson/O'Connell CB pair anyone? 
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    edited July 2022
    Scoham said:
    Huddersfield looking to sign Solihull Moors 6 ft 9 striker Kyle Hudlin.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/18798986/huddersfield-striker-kyle-hudlin-transfer
    Signed for AFCW with Jacko, on loan from Huddersfield
  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,206
    Don't underestimate Dobson's footballing ability. He's can be more than just a destroyer and he is a much better passer than he is given credit for. He also doesn't mind receiving the ball when marked. His fantastic strike vs Rotherham also hints he could be a little bit more of a goal threat if encouraged to get forward a bit more. The defensive side will always be his bread and butter, but that doesn't mean he can't be comfortable and contribute in a team that wants to play high up the pitch and retain the ball.
  • AllHailTheHen
    AllHailTheHen Posts: 3,064
    Didn't see loads of games last season but Dobson was very good with his distribution when I watched him. Personally think he could slot into any style of play we have. Just thinking he's a destroyer type is doing him a big disservice.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,817
    And Jack Rudoni has gone the other way, signing for Huddersfield.
  • FishCostaFortune
    FishCostaFortune Posts: 10,780
    ValleyGary said:
    I know Garner has a style etc but George Dobson HAS to play. 
    RodneyCharltonTrotta said:
    Best player we have

    I think Dobson is actually an underrated passer of the ball, probably due to many people focusing on his ability to break up play. Many times he would get the ball back and spread a lovely weighted diagonal out to the wing. 

    Will certainly be interesting to see how he does with BenBall and us hopefully having much of the possession and being more patient and playing shorter passes out from the back. 

    In the limited time during pre-season we saw him in my opinion I don’t think he looked that comfortable. Just because he was the best player under Jackson, does not mean he will be under Garner. Indeed we have already seen l, and I think we will see more of it, that our forward thinking midfielders such as Fraser are looking a lot more promising.

    Obviously though if we can play a high possession attacking style of football and Dobson is still churning out quality performances it will mean we are in a very good place. 





  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,814
    Dobson will be fine, decent passer of the ball, will probably need to be snappier with his passing for Garner, but he's good enough 

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  • Bournesnr
    Bournesnr Posts: 296
    Only on CL would anyone want to convert their best midfielder and player of the year into a a CB
    That’s a no from me.
  • paulfox
    paulfox Posts: 2,356
    Southbank said:
    cabbles said:
    Do we think we’ll bring anyone else in before Accrington?

    If not, be interesting to see how we finally line up

    Mac/Wollacott - haven’t a clue who is first choice 

    Clare Inniss O’Connell Sessegnon

    Morgan Dobson McGrandles (if fit)

    CBT Stockley Kirk

    Haven’t been following pre-season, so educated guess as to what I’ve picked up on here 
    No goals in that line-up
    Ffs, here we go again giving Morgan another chance, will people never  learn.
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    Bournesnr said:
    Only on CL would anyone want to convert their best midfielder and player of the year into a a CB
    That’s a no from me.
    He played the position in at least one EPL academy. Mascherano at Barcelona showed what's possible - perhaps not Dobson's level, but in such a dynamic formation, wouldn't it be good to have someone like that in defence? 
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,261
    Dobson's passing is fine.

    Just need players moving around him to give him options.
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    sam3110 said:
    My nagging question about Dobson has been "did he look that good last season because he was having to cover so many shortcomings of those around him?" 

    Do we need that style of midfielder to play week in week out? He's high energy, combative and excellent at mopping up ahead of the defence, but from what I've seen so far we'll be aiming to win the ball higher up than him, and we need the central midfielders to push on up the pitch and pin teams in their own box when we're in possession, and I'm not sure that's his game 
    He's looked a bit lost in the 2 pre-season appearances I've seen so far. Too early to tell if he'll settle into the new formation and style of play, but he's finding it harder than most of our other midfielders so far.
  • RC_CAFC
    RC_CAFC Posts: 1,760
    seth plum said:
    Indeed.

    The starting eleven should be:

                   Dobson
       Dobson Dobson Dobson
             Dobson Dobson
       Dobson               Dobson
       Dobson Dobson Dobson

    Subs, Dobson, Dobson, Dobson,Dobson, Dobson, Dobson, Gilbey.
    I’d only change one thing about that squad…
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,359
    Gotta say, it would be an insane power move for Garner to have Dobson sold and give Morgan the number 4 shirt. Albie would be his white whale as he was Adkins'
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,704
    Leuth said:
    Gotta say, it would be an insane power move for Garner to have Dobson sold and give Morgan the number 4 shirt. Albie would be his white whale as he was Adkins'
    100 % Agree 
  • LonelyNorthernAddick
    LonelyNorthernAddick Posts: 2,423
    I might've missed something but is there any evidence that Dobson is being benched in favour of other players, other than that he didn't play in the last pre-season game? And wasn't that just due to  a slight  strain? 
  • Pelling1993
    Pelling1993 Posts: 6,720
    LonelyNorthernAddick said:
    I might've missed something but is there any evidence that Dobson is being benched in favour of other players, other than that he didn't play in the last pre-season game? And wasn't that just due to  a slight  strain? 
    There's nothing like a good Charlton Life panic/meltdown at every available opportunity! 

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