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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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I'd be surprised if they're not a U21 loan signing from the Premier League.Elthamaddick said:We will sign a striker, no idea when but we'll get one before the window shuts.
all depends who/when become available2 -
wmcf123 said:
That was an accurate description ;-). I see the merit in Chuks as a sub if he’s fit but I wouldn’t have re-signed himChunes said:
It was '1 goal Chuks'wmcf123 said:
Thanks . Was it magennis we differed on?Chunes said:
You've always got the best takes on strikerswmcf123 said:
I really wanted us to be 100% big immobile lumps up front ; shameblackpool72 said:
I know Piggott personally and trust me he ain't coming to Charlton.Chunes said:Pigott for me, if Ipswich are letting him go. He's got the technical ability to be a different option to Jayden. I like Stockton but there are too many ifs.
Seems like it's a bad year for strikers, can't think of too many good ones who will be available.
Chuks will be the bargain buy if he can play a part in 36 or so matches like two seasons ago. Playing Chuks for 95 minutes in his first game back last season wasn't a great idea.
With the right support and service Aneke would score about 24 goals in those 36 matches he was involved in. I would try to play him 30 to 45 minutes every match and with luck he wouldn't miss many games. Not ideal to have a player who isn't confident in his own body but he could rip League 1 apart.1 -
He has only recently moved up to the under 23’s and personally I don’t expect to see him in the first team squad this season.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Playing and scoring for the 23s. He’s only 17 so still young and probably not physically ready to be playing men’s football yet. Imagine will see him at some point in the season, just not yet.Bolderhumphreyreid said:What's going on with Kanu? Has he played yet or is he injured?
TS said there was no urgency in signing a striker, not that he would not be signing one. Saying what he did about Leaburn would be encouraging to him personally and to the rest of the youth players and if we are going to keep getting players to sign there has to be the hope of playing 1st team football here or they may as well go and play u23 football at Chelsea etc and earn more money.2 -
Yes, the thing is, Leaburn can make himself 1st choice. Absolutely it happens. But there should not be an expectation he will do this and it should be seen as a bonus not be part of your planning.Pavoren007 said:Scoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
Give the kid a chance FFS. I absolutely do not think it fair to expect too much of Miles at this point. A hugely exciting prospect, but surely should only be considered as a cameo player and 5th/6th choice back up for the first team for his own development benefit? I thought it unfair on his father that we relied so much on him at his young/similar age at the time and while Carl did become a worthy cult hero, he took a lot of flak for it along the way, particularly through his barren spells in front of goal. Hopefully TS kidology rather than being too serious…5 -
Hard to disagree with any of this.paulfox said:
I think we’d all love to see him succeed, he does try hard and comes across quite popular, however those attributes don’t make you score lots. Judging on what we’ve seen he isn’t good enough to get us promoted, the same applies for Morgan, and now possibly Gilbey whom I thought had something about him but has disappointed. With The forwards we have a lot needs to improve individually, chuks needs to be more consistent and be more available, Stockley needs to improve his all round game, not sure either are able to achieve those things, which is my reasoning for needing probably two more forwards.seth plum said:It is unlikely, but personally I would love it if Davison scored 12 or 15 goals for us next season.
I base that on him being a good lad and a real trier, and some of the criticism has been harsh.
I suppose I am hoping Davison luckily wins some kind of low level strikers lottery.
I doubt it will happen, there is a thought though when some say Stockton and May, and McKirdy are one season wonders and hadn’t done much before, well maybe Josh is in the not doing much stage before being a one season wonder😉0 -
Oh come on, Leaburn grabbed two sensational goals against trialists at National League South Dartford on Saturday. Sandgaard knows what he's talking about.sam3110 said:
Doesn't learn does he? Stockley is very one dimensional, Aneke is always injured or can only play 30 mins at a time, Davison struggled to score regularly in the league below this one, and Leaburn is 18 years old and completely unproven.Scoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
I'm not sure how effective "Garner-ball" is going to be with a squad full of non-scoring midfielders and that 4 up front, time will tell but I have my doubts0 -
How much did we pay for Fraser, just out of interest?0
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Should probably have clarified my comment. I expect we will see Kanu in the cup competition at some point this season. Imagine he will be a part of the Papa Johns squad in the group games.Redrobo said:
He has only recently moved up to the under 23’s and personally I don’t expect to see him in the first team squad this season.SouthWest_Addicks said:
Playing and scoring for the 23s. He’s only 17 so still young and probably not physically ready to be playing men’s football yet. Imagine will see him at some point in the season, just not yet.Bolderhumphreyreid said:What's going on with Kanu? Has he played yet or is he injured?
TS said there was no urgency in signing a striker, not that he would not be signing one. Saying what he did about Leaburn would be encouraging to him personally and to the rest of the youth players and if we are going to keep getting players to sign there has to be the hope of playing 1st team football here or they may as well go and play u23 football at Chelsea etc and earn more money.1 -
Isn't there "another" Jack Payne who signed for Crawley. I thought somebody mentioned it on here a week or two ago ?MarcusH26 said:There's no chance Jack Payne would be playing in what was basically a Crawley Trialists side at Isthmian League East Grinstead last night.0 -
It was undisclosed, but reckon high six figures - Reckon Ipswich managed to either get back what they paid, or they managed to sell him on for a little bit more than what they paid... Hence that could be one of their tactics in the market, given their owners.mendonca said:How much did we pay for Fraser, just out of interest?0 -
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charltonbob said:
Isn't there "another" Jack Payne who signed for Crawley. I thought somebody mentioned it on here a week or two ago ?MarcusH26 said:There's no chance Jack Payne would be playing in what was basically a Crawley Trialists side at Isthmian League East Grinstead last night.Jack Payne
FootballerJack Stephen Payne is an English professional footballer who plays as a midfielder for EFL League Two club Crawley Town, signed June 20210 -
Re Miles is exactly how I see it, but would add that Garner, as he likes working with younger players, may have told TS that he sees him potentially breaking through and wants him around the 1st team squad. Also TS has not said we won't be signing another striker but that it is not an immediate priority. I hope this means that other positions will be filled first eg a winger and another LB. Re another striker I wouldn't be surprised if he comes in towards the end of the window, possibly on loan.swordfish said:
I don't recall Airman saying TS appears to be doing this season on the cheap, but I'm not disputing it if you say he did. However, as I've mentioned several times before, the compensation payments he's made are evidence of him spending where needed.SouthLincsAddick said:Airman did warn us that TS appears to be doing this season on the cheap. I don’t want to believe it but it’s looking that way. TS has splashed out the last couple of seasons but our form has got worse. Roland is still our problem, because we don’t own our assets we are only going to attract crooks or owners like TS, great intentions but not very shrewd when it comes to football. If he was shrewd then he wouldn’t have bought us. I hope it’s just a statement to cool of the agents.
I think his comments regarding Miles are quite shrewd, serving as a boost to the lads confidence, instilling belief that he has breakthrough potential, whilst also cooling off agents, or so I hope, as do you.
I'm not saying TS has suddenly become a master of deceit, but I doubt he's playing this one with a particularly straight bat and wouldn't be surprised if a new striker is still a prime target, even if a fee is involved2 -
I would be ok with that. I think what we have is ok to start the season with as long as Stockley and Aneke are fit. But we need more to get us through the season if we are going to challenge, but that doesn't need to happen today. The problem is, until it does happen, some may worry that it won't. I can understand that and we just have to watch and hope really.Clarky said:
Re Miles is exactly how I see it, but would add that Garner, as he likes working with younger players, may have told TS that he sees him potentially breaking through and wants him around the 1st team squad. Also TS has not said we won't be signing another striker but that it is not an immediate priority. I hope this means that other positions will be filled first eg a winger and another LB. Re another striker I wouldn't be surprised if he comes in towards the end of the window, possibly on loan.swordfish said:
I don't recall Airman saying TS appears to be doing this season on the cheap, but I'm not disputing it if you say he did. However, as I've mentioned several times before, the compensation payments he's made are evidence of him spending where needed.SouthLincsAddick said:Airman did warn us that TS appears to be doing this season on the cheap. I don’t want to believe it but it’s looking that way. TS has splashed out the last couple of seasons but our form has got worse. Roland is still our problem, because we don’t own our assets we are only going to attract crooks or owners like TS, great intentions but not very shrewd when it comes to football. If he was shrewd then he wouldn’t have bought us. I hope it’s just a statement to cool of the agents.
I think his comments regarding Miles are quite shrewd, serving as a boost to the lads confidence, instilling belief that he has breakthrough potential, whilst also cooling off agents, or so I hope, as do you.
I'm not saying TS has suddenly become a master of deceit, but I doubt he's playing this one with a particularly straight bat and wouldn't be surprised if a new striker is still a prime target, even if a fee is involved2 -
Is that guesswork on the questionable assumption their owners are more business savvy than TS? I'd be interested to know how much they spent in total last year, including on Cook's compo, given where they eventually finished up. If they were big spenders, it didn't work, no doubt about it.ForeverAddickted said:
It was undisclosed, but reckon high six figures - Reckon Ipswich managed to either get back what they paid, or they managed to sell him on for a little bit more than what they paid... Hence that could be one of their tactics in the market, given their owners.mendonca said:How much did we pay for Fraser, just out of interest?0 -
Bi.Bolderhumphreyreid said:
Bye.addick1956 said:
Buy !addick1956 said:
TS ; OK let's have a whip round and by the next Ronnie Moore .RC_CAFC said:Fans: Play the youngsters, they're one of our own and we want them in the team!!!
TS: We will try and play some our youngsters and put them in the match day teams and squads.
Fans: You cheapskate! You can't rely on youngsters to play any games, they are too young and not ready!0 -
Yeah, let's do it!grumpyaddick said:Is it time to be furious yet?
Anything in particular, or just a sort of unprovoked rage?3 -
We are only going to play one up top .. and we already have three players that can play that role where we should be looking is goals from the wide players and perhaps need to invest in that position … or could Leaburn and others be the answer it’s worth giving them a couple of games to see0
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Good shout. Imagine if Joshs' one wonder-season came with us!seth plum said:
Hard to disagree with any of this.paulfox said:
I think we’d all love to see him succeed, he does try hard and comes across quite popular, however those attributes don’t make you score lots. Judging on what we’ve seen he isn’t good enough to get us promoted, the same applies for Morgan, and now possibly Gilbey whom I thought had something about him but has disappointed. With The forwards we have a lot needs to improve individually, chuks needs to be more consistent and be more available, Stockley needs to improve his all round game, not sure either are able to achieve those things, which is my reasoning for needing probably two more forwards.seth plum said:It is unlikely, but personally I would love it if Davison scored 12 or 15 goals for us next season.
I base that on him being a good lad and a real trier, and some of the criticism has been harsh.
I suppose I am hoping Davison luckily wins some kind of low level strikers lottery.
I doubt it will happen, there is a thought though when some say Stockton and May, and McKirdy are one season wonders and hadn’t done much before, well maybe Josh is in the not doing much stage before being a one season wonder😉0 -
Sorry but.RonnieMoore said:We are only going to play one up top .. and we already have three players that can play that role where we should be looking is goals from the wide players and perhaps need to invest in that position … or could Leaburn and others be the answer it’s worth giving them a couple of games to see
If Stockley gets injured we are in trouble.
Aneke is only going to be used as an impact sub.
Davison ain't good enough.
Leaburn and Kanu although they have great promise are not yet ready.
We definitely need to sign another experienced striker.22 -
Stcokley and Aneke are also prone to the odd red card and multipal yellow, suspensions will effect us too.blackpool72 said:
Sorry but.RonnieMoore said:We are only going to play one up top .. and we already have three players that can play that role where we should be looking is goals from the wide players and perhaps need to invest in that position … or could Leaburn and others be the answer it’s worth giving them a couple of games to see
If Stockley gets injured we are in trouble.
Aneke is only going to be used as an impact sub.
Davison ain't good enough.
Leaburn and Kanu although they have great promise are not yet ready.
We definitely need to sign another experienced striker.2 -
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People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.
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Do you honestly believe that come the end of the transfer window the forward line will be the same as it is now?blackpool72 said:
Sorry but.RonnieMoore said:We are only going to play one up top .. and we already have three players that can play that role where we should be looking is goals from the wide players and perhaps need to invest in that position … or could Leaburn and others be the answer it’s worth giving them a couple of games to see
If Stockley gets injured we are in trouble.
Aneke is only going to be used as an impact sub.
Davison ain't good enough.
Leaburn and Kanu although they have great promise are not yet ready.
We definitely need to sign another experienced striker.
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My guess is that TS is playing mind games…….if we as fans all feel that Leaburn Mark2 isn’t near first team inclusion yet, then you can be 100% certain that Garner, Gallen and TS are also WELL aware.
I am pretty confident we will see another striker sign in due course.10 -
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.0 -
I think you’re doing Stockley an injustice there…..he’s pretty good with link up play and with the ball on the floor, better than the majority of ‘up top’ League 1 strikers I’d say.sam3110 said:
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.7 -
He's on a hiding to nothing isn't he.RC_CAFC said:Fans: Play the youngsters, they're one of our own and we want them in the team!!!
TS: We will try and play some of our youngsters and put them in the match day teams and squads.
Fans: You cheapskate! You can't rely on youngsters to play any games, they are too young and not ready!
Fans having differing opinions. Pah!7 -
Have we been watching the same Stockley?, the blonde fella right?🤣🤣 I’m afraid I agree with sam3110 on this one. Shockley is good at what he does well, but equally poor at the things he doesn’t.SoundAsa£ said:
I think you’re doing Stockley an injustice there…..he’s pretty good with link up play and with the ball on the floor, better than the majority of ‘up top’ League 1 strikers I’d say.sam3110 said:
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.3 -
On Saturday he tripped over a tap-in from three yards outSoundAsa£ said:
I think you’re doing Stockley an injustice there…..he’s pretty good with link up play and with the ball on the floor, better than the majority of ‘up top’ League 1 strikers I’d say.sam3110 said:
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.0 -
I saw Jimmy Greaves do that as well.Chunes said:
On Saturday he tripped over a tap-in from three yards outSoundAsa£ said:
I think you’re doing Stockley an injustice there…..he’s pretty good with link up play and with the ball on the floor, better than the majority of ‘up top’ League 1 strikers I’d say.sam3110 said:
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.4 -
Baffled by posters I respect saying he's good on the floor. The amount of times he's tried to play a simple bounce pass and it's ended up hitting his boot and flying off his shin!SoundAsa£ said:
I saw Jimmy Greaves do that as well.Chunes said:
On Saturday he tripped over a tap-in from three yards outSoundAsa£ said:
I think you’re doing Stockley an injustice there…..he’s pretty good with link up play and with the ball on the floor, better than the majority of ‘up top’ League 1 strikers I’d say.sam3110 said:
But we need better than Stockley to lead the line. He's too one dimensional, our first choice striker needs to be better on the floor and with his feet than Jayden is nowGarrymanilow said:
People won't be happy until we have 5 first team level strikers better than what we currently have to compete for one spot. If you're playing one up front you need one striker. You need a backup for that striker for injuries or poor form. You then need another striker so that you still have a bit of depth of the bench to cover those injuries and losses of form. After that it's good to have another backup, which will always be a youth player because no-one is coming in to be 4th choice in a one striker team. Stockley is a good first choice. Aneke is the best sub you can have at this level. He'll get injured, which is why we should upgrade on Davison, but we should not pay well above the odds for a third choice. After that of course Leaburn is our fourth choice, it doesn't matter that he hasn't played a league game, he has to start somewhere and we need a pathway for young players. Sandgaard is in no rush because we're looking for the best possible backup striker and we're not going to spaff huge amounts of the budget on bringing in a player who we don't actually need every week.golfaddick said:
Deluded if anyone thinks that those 4 would be good enough to get us into the top 6.ForeverAddickted said:
Gonna to be fun reading the responses to thisScoham said:TS on Leaburn and signing a striker.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/charlton-chief-explains-why-no-pressing-urgency-to-add-to-striker-positions/
One hasn't played a league game in his life
One we loaned out to a lower league club & although did ok hardly set the house on fire
One has a history of not being able to play 90 mins
One had a back injury last season & only played 30 odd games.4
