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Charlie Kirk (p68 - released by Barrow)
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Before he signed for us he was probably on about 100k a year, if that. Try getting a 30 year mortgage on a 2 year contract.North Lower Neil said:0 -
Plus I doubt his Mrs earns much as one of those people painted gold and pretending to be a statue:Cafc43v3r said:
Before he signed for us he was probably on about 100k a year, if that. Try getting a 30 year mortgage on a 2 year contract.North Lower Neil said:
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Strange assumption to make mateNorth Lower Neil said:
Plus I doubt his Mrs earns much as one of those people painted gold and pretending to be a statue:Cafc43v3r said:
Before he signed for us he was probably on about 100k a year, if that. Try getting a 30 year mortgage on a 2 year contract.North Lower Neil said:0 -
Was just a daft throwaway joke based on gold make up, how she's standing, eyes closed, cup out for change etc.000__Jaaaaay__000 said:
Strange assumption to make mateNorth Lower Neil said:
Plus I doubt his Mrs earns much as one of those people painted gold and pretending to be a statue:Cafc43v3r said:
Before he signed for us he was probably on about 100k a year, if that. Try getting a 30 year mortgage on a 2 year contract.North Lower Neil said:
If I had to make an actual guess, I think she's just got some gold make up on and is having a drink at a festival....3 -
Please give it a rest.addick1956 said:SELR_addicks said:
An opinion befitting your username of 1956.addick1956 said:
If you don't see the relevance you are stupid or unwilling to. I think the latter.LargeAddick said:
But how is that relevant? They are different situations, people react differently to loss, none of us can judge how anyone else feels or reacts when they lose a loved one, only the person affected knows how they feel.addick1956 said:
Nothing unusual about me being panned. His loss does deserve sympathy but as I said later his plight was not as bad as others. My father lost his grandfather and father within 2 weeks when he was 9 and at 23 he was in the 2nd wave at D Day....and my dad thought he was lucky because he survived.ElfsborgAddick said:
I see you have been panned for your comments but I do get what you are saying regards his move.addick1956 said:
No cared about my dad's mindset or the others.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In the context of your last paragraph yes compared to Ukraine and Rwanda, no one is going to feel sorry for a footballer, although he certainly deserves some compassion for his dad passing away. But to your overall point you're way off, simply because everyone is different.addick1956 said:
I certainly am . My father lost his father when he was 9 due to gas from the 1st War. He had TB and was brought in poverty, real poverty. The sort that meant getting a coat given by a neighbour meant someone did a mea s test and took away a chair or loose some benefits such as they were.Todds_right_hook said:
Are you actually capable of being nice or showing any signs of actually being human. His dad died at the time of him signing for us, from experience of losing a parent in my early 20's, I can see how the move away from his family may have affected his ability to settle and his ability to perform on the pitch. At the time of me losing a parent, I was due to sit exams for a professional qualification, I wanted to sit them as I wanted to make the lost parent proud but I wasn't in the right place so I put them back a year and passed!!! Or should I have grown up and sat them?addick1956 said:
You should grow up to....it is not antiquated to expect a 23 year old to man up and be responsible for his own decisions.Todds_right_hook said:
Really???? FFS, that's such an antiquated comment!!! How dare a still relatively young man who had just lost his dad not settle away from his family and friends.addick1956 said:He is 23 going on 24 and can't live in the south!
Needs to grow up really.
Naby Sarr was younger and could not speak much English. He was sent to FC Paris for a year and returned. He settled well. He ca.e from Portugal where he was playing and is French.
you do realise that everyone is different and just because one player settled, doesn't mean that all can? The example you gave isn't even a fair comparison.
as you said, sarr lived in Portugal and had experience at living away from parents before he joined us. We signed Kirk from his home town club where he had never been far from his family. Then there was his dads passing to add into the equation. Did his girlfriend come with him or stay up north. That could have been a big factor in him not settling.
a year later, if he comes back, his girlfriend might come with him. A new manager might buddy him up with another player to help him settle.
but yes, that's pretend it's 1956 again and tell him to grow up for not settling.
since you had a little tantrum about a month ago because you wrongly accused someone of calling you an arsehole, I have noticed that every post of yours is either name calling or being derogatory towards someone or something. I think there's only one person here who needs to grow up!!!
His apprenticeship was interrupted by the war. At the age Kirk was last he had his first real taste of war....in the 2nd wave at D Day where he was despatched to disposal of enemy defences ahead of the next push.
He was at Operation Market Garden, stuck in the Battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes and at the crossing of the Rhineland-Palatinate.
After the war he went back to his apprenticeship aged 25.
His early life was hard . There was a depression as well .He lived in Charlton. His paternal grandfather died a couple of weeks after his dad. He was one of 4 children
Because of his hard work in improving himself I never had to the deprivation he had endured, or many like him. Others suffered more in the war in places like Burma , Palestine or POW camps in Hitlers factories.
These men never complained and it took us years to get out of them what they did in the war.
And you worry about his move from Crewe to Charlton. Dear God.
So take your nasty remarks and stuff them up your rear ends...
It is mot about showing compassion. I reserve that for the poor sods in Ukraine or being shipped off to Rwanda or struggling here. Not an overpaid footballer who things a move to London in a well paid job is terrible.
Some people worry about everything, some people breeze through life without letting anything trouble them.
Some people can have a few drinks and go home, some people need to go into rehab.
Some people like getting off their tits at weekends, some people won't touch drugs.
Some men love women, some men love men.
Some people want kids, some people don't.
Some people are very career focused and work all hours, others want a good work-life balance and are happy just getting by in 9-5 role.
I could go on all day here. But the point is what works for one person, doesn't mean it applies to all.
So you can't say what Kirk should or should not be feeling and thinking. How do you know what his mindset is?
He is not in the worst place ever and Crewe is not far away .
To be honest I find it hard to think a person of 23 doesn't understand the implications of moving somewhere else , particularly after his tragic loss. Unless he was forced to go by Crewe .
A shame about his father which deserves sympathy.
Out of interest at which beach did your Dad land? Surprised you have not commented on the Normandy thread.
What is easier. Driving round in a Range Rover on loads of dosh and sadly losing your father or being in a world slump in 1930 and losing your grandfather and father within 2 weeks and having no income whatsoever.
At 23 on should find it easier as an adjusted adult. As a child this is so much harder.
As 23 year old going to Charlton from Crewe is a lot easier than going to Normandy from Charlton. He could hardly nip home at weekends to see his mum . As it happened he didn't get back for 11 months and had to help in the death camps after the fighting.
Get real.
Explain your silly emark....and explain why all those guys who fought for this country deserve lee sympathy than a bloke who appears to think Charlton is a long way from Crewe. Sympathy is one thing. Being backed by weak wets is certainly another. And while you are at it explain why your tuned in thinking is necessarily better than the past.
I doubt anyone has the slightest interest in your outdated views.13 -
It’s called evolutionaddick1956 said:SELR_addicks said:
An opinion befitting your username of 1956.addick1956 said:
If you don't see the relevance you are stupid or unwilling to. I think the latter.LargeAddick said:
But how is that relevant? They are different situations, people react differently to loss, none of us can judge how anyone else feels or reacts when they lose a loved one, only the person affected knows how they feel.addick1956 said:
Nothing unusual about me being panned. His loss does deserve sympathy but as I said later his plight was not as bad as others. My father lost his grandfather and father within 2 weeks when he was 9 and at 23 he was in the 2nd wave at D Day....and my dad thought he was lucky because he survived.ElfsborgAddick said:
I see you have been panned for your comments but I do get what you are saying regards his move.addick1956 said:
No cared about my dad's mindset or the others.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In the context of your last paragraph yes compared to Ukraine and Rwanda, no one is going to feel sorry for a footballer, although he certainly deserves some compassion for his dad passing away. But to your overall point you're way off, simply because everyone is different.addick1956 said:
I certainly am . My father lost his father when he was 9 due to gas from the 1st War. He had TB and was brought in poverty, real poverty. The sort that meant getting a coat given by a neighbour meant someone did a mea s test and took away a chair or loose some benefits such as they were.Todds_right_hook said:
Are you actually capable of being nice or showing any signs of actually being human. His dad died at the time of him signing for us, from experience of losing a parent in my early 20's, I can see how the move away from his family may have affected his ability to settle and his ability to perform on the pitch. At the time of me losing a parent, I was due to sit exams for a professional qualification, I wanted to sit them as I wanted to make the lost parent proud but I wasn't in the right place so I put them back a year and passed!!! Or should I have grown up and sat them?addick1956 said:
You should grow up to....it is not antiquated to expect a 23 year old to man up and be responsible for his own decisions.Todds_right_hook said:
Really???? FFS, that's such an antiquated comment!!! How dare a still relatively young man who had just lost his dad not settle away from his family and friends.addick1956 said:He is 23 going on 24 and can't live in the south!
Needs to grow up really.
Naby Sarr was younger and could not speak much English. He was sent to FC Paris for a year and returned. He settled well. He ca.e from Portugal where he was playing and is French.
you do realise that everyone is different and just because one player settled, doesn't mean that all can? The example you gave isn't even a fair comparison.
as you said, sarr lived in Portugal and had experience at living away from parents before he joined us. We signed Kirk from his home town club where he had never been far from his family. Then there was his dads passing to add into the equation. Did his girlfriend come with him or stay up north. That could have been a big factor in him not settling.
a year later, if he comes back, his girlfriend might come with him. A new manager might buddy him up with another player to help him settle.
but yes, that's pretend it's 1956 again and tell him to grow up for not settling.
since you had a little tantrum about a month ago because you wrongly accused someone of calling you an arsehole, I have noticed that every post of yours is either name calling or being derogatory towards someone or something. I think there's only one person here who needs to grow up!!!
His apprenticeship was interrupted by the war. At the age Kirk was last he had his first real taste of war....in the 2nd wave at D Day where he was despatched to disposal of enemy defences ahead of the next push.
He was at Operation Market Garden, stuck in the Battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes and at the crossing of the Rhineland-Palatinate.
After the war he went back to his apprenticeship aged 25.
His early life was hard . There was a depression as well .He lived in Charlton. His paternal grandfather died a couple of weeks after his dad. He was one of 4 children
Because of his hard work in improving himself I never had to the deprivation he had endured, or many like him. Others suffered more in the war in places like Burma , Palestine or POW camps in Hitlers factories.
These men never complained and it took us years to get out of them what they did in the war.
And you worry about his move from Crewe to Charlton. Dear God.
So take your nasty remarks and stuff them up your rear ends...
It is mot about showing compassion. I reserve that for the poor sods in Ukraine or being shipped off to Rwanda or struggling here. Not an overpaid footballer who things a move to London in a well paid job is terrible.
Some people worry about everything, some people breeze through life without letting anything trouble them.
Some people can have a few drinks and go home, some people need to go into rehab.
Some people like getting off their tits at weekends, some people won't touch drugs.
Some men love women, some men love men.
Some people want kids, some people don't.
Some people are very career focused and work all hours, others want a good work-life balance and are happy just getting by in 9-5 role.
I could go on all day here. But the point is what works for one person, doesn't mean it applies to all.
So you can't say what Kirk should or should not be feeling and thinking. How do you know what his mindset is?
He is not in the worst place ever and Crewe is not far away .
To be honest I find it hard to think a person of 23 doesn't understand the implications of moving somewhere else , particularly after his tragic loss. Unless he was forced to go by Crewe .
A shame about his father which deserves sympathy.
Out of interest at which beach did your Dad land? Surprised you have not commented on the Normandy thread.
What is easier. Driving round in a Range Rover on loads of dosh and sadly losing your father or being in a world slump in 1930 and losing your grandfather and father within 2 weeks and having no income whatsoever.
At 23 on should find it easier as an adjusted adult. As a child this is so much harder.
As 23 year old going to Charlton from Crewe is a lot easier than going to Normandy from Charlton. He could hardly nip home at weekends to see his mum . As it happened he didn't get back for 11 months and had to help in the death camps after the fighting.
Get real.
Explain your silly emark....and explain why all those guys who fought for this country deserve lee sympathy than a bloke who appears to think Charlton is a long way from Crewe. Sympathy is one thing. Being backed by weak wets is certainly another. And while you are at it explain why your tuned in thinking is necessarily better than the past.0 -
Yeah not saying it isn't nice, but if it's in Crewe it's worth about £300kNorth Lower Neil said:0 -
One zero too many there mate.Croydon said:
Yeah not saying it isn't nice, but if it's in Crewe it's worth about £300kNorth Lower Neil said:3 -
😴addick1956 said:
Explain...I always have tooSoundAsa£ said:
Some weird stuff going on here.🤔addick1956 said:
If you don't see the relevance you are stupid or unwilling to. I think the latter.LargeAddick said:
But how is that relevant? They are different situations, people react differently to loss, none of us can judge how anyone else feels or reacts when they lose a loved one, only the person affected knows how they feel.addick1956 said:
Nothing unusual about me being panned. His loss does deserve sympathy but as I said later his plight was not as bad as others. My father lost his grandfather and father within 2 weeks when he was 9 and at 23 he was in the 2nd wave at D Day....and my dad thought he was lucky because he survived.ElfsborgAddick said:
I see you have been panned for your comments but I do get what you are saying regards his move.addick1956 said:
No cared about my dad's mindset or the others.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
In the context of your last paragraph yes compared to Ukraine and Rwanda, no one is going to feel sorry for a footballer, although he certainly deserves some compassion for his dad passing away. But to your overall point you're way off, simply because everyone is different.addick1956 said:
I certainly am . My father lost his father when he was 9 due to gas from the 1st War. He had TB and was brought in poverty, real poverty. The sort that meant getting a coat given by a neighbour meant someone did a mea s test and took away a chair or loose some benefits such as they were.Todds_right_hook said:
Are you actually capable of being nice or showing any signs of actually being human. His dad died at the time of him signing for us, from experience of losing a parent in my early 20's, I can see how the move away from his family may have affected his ability to settle and his ability to perform on the pitch. At the time of me losing a parent, I was due to sit exams for a professional qualification, I wanted to sit them as I wanted to make the lost parent proud but I wasn't in the right place so I put them back a year and passed!!! Or should I have grown up and sat them?addick1956 said:
You should grow up to....it is not antiquated to expect a 23 year old to man up and be responsible for his own decisions.Todds_right_hook said:
Really???? FFS, that's such an antiquated comment!!! How dare a still relatively young man who had just lost his dad not settle away from his family and friends.addick1956 said:He is 23 going on 24 and can't live in the south!
Needs to grow up really.
Naby Sarr was younger and could not speak much English. He was sent to FC Paris for a year and returned. He settled well. He ca.e from Portugal where he was playing and is French.
you do realise that everyone is different and just because one player settled, doesn't mean that all can? The example you gave isn't even a fair comparison.
as you said, sarr lived in Portugal and had experience at living away from parents before he joined us. We signed Kirk from his home town club where he had never been far from his family. Then there was his dads passing to add into the equation. Did his girlfriend come with him or stay up north. That could have been a big factor in him not settling.
a year later, if he comes back, his girlfriend might come with him. A new manager might buddy him up with another player to help him settle.
but yes, that's pretend it's 1956 again and tell him to grow up for not settling.
since you had a little tantrum about a month ago because you wrongly accused someone of calling you an arsehole, I have noticed that every post of yours is either name calling or being derogatory towards someone or something. I think there's only one person here who needs to grow up!!!
His apprenticeship was interrupted by the war. At the age Kirk was last he had his first real taste of war....in the 2nd wave at D Day where he was despatched to disposal of enemy defences ahead of the next push.
He was at Operation Market Garden, stuck in the Battle of the Bulge in the Ardennes and at the crossing of the Rhineland-Palatinate.
After the war he went back to his apprenticeship aged 25.
His early life was hard . There was a depression as well .He lived in Charlton. His paternal grandfather died a couple of weeks after his dad. He was one of 4 children
Because of his hard work in improving himself I never had to the deprivation he had endured, or many like him. Others suffered more in the war in places like Burma , Palestine or POW camps in Hitlers factories.
These men never complained and it took us years to get out of them what they did in the war.
And you worry about his move from Crewe to Charlton. Dear God.
So take your nasty remarks and stuff them up your rear ends...
It is mot about showing compassion. I reserve that for the poor sods in Ukraine or being shipped off to Rwanda or struggling here. Not an overpaid footballer who things a move to London in a well paid job is terrible.
Some people worry about everything, some people breeze through life without letting anything trouble them.
Some people can have a few drinks and go home, some people need to go into rehab.
Some people like getting off their tits at weekends, some people won't touch drugs.
Some men love women, some men love men.
Some people want kids, some people don't.
Some people are very career focused and work all hours, others want a good work-life balance and are happy just getting by in 9-5 role.
I could go on all day here. But the point is what works for one person, doesn't mean it applies to all.
So you can't say what Kirk should or should not be feeling and thinking. How do you know what his mindset is?
He is not in the worst place ever and Crewe is not far away .
To be honest I find it hard to think a person of 23 doesn't understand the implications of moving somewhere else , particularly after his tragic loss. Unless he was forced to go by Crewe .
A shame about his father which deserves sympathy.
Out of interest at which beach did your Dad land? Surprised you have not commented on the Normandy thread.
What is easier. Driving round in a Range Rover on loads of dosh and sadly losing your father or being in a world slump in 1930 and losing your grandfather and father within 2 weeks and having no income whatsoever.
At 23 on should find it easier as an adjusted adult. As a child this is so much harder.
As 23 year old going to Charlton from Crewe is a lot easier than going to Normandy from Charlton. He could hardly nip home at weekends to see his mum . As it happened he didn't get back for 11 months and had to help in the death camps after the fighting.
Get real.2 -
Too much focus on the non footballing side of Kirk's life here.
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Kirk might actually suit the garner way of playing.
id keep him until January. We’ll know by then.1 -
We'll probably have about five games between the opening day, and the closing of the window.CafcSCP said:Kirk might actually suit the garner way of playing.
id keep him until January. We’ll know by then.
If Kirk isnt involved in any, or doesnt impress in the League Cup, we can always ship him out before the end.2 -
If nobody is offering to buy him, it makes sense to take a fresh look at him. He was a more than decent player for Crewe at this level.6
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From the limited amount I saw of him on TV at Blackpool, he seems to take a decent corner. But if you look only at the TV highlights you might say the same about Morgan; they don't show the crap ones.
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Unless he's 100% desperate to return up north, it makes sense to look at him, even if there were offers. A new manager and a different style of football might suit him.MuttleyCAFC said:If nobody is offering to buy him, it makes sense to take a fresh look at him. He was a more than decent player for Crewe at this level.2 -
I would love this kid to come good and have a great season with us under Ben.24
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There is 100% a player in Kirk. Hopefully BG will get him playing and he’ll want to stay down here.3
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You’ve got to garner those nuggets where you find em0
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Didn’t a lot of Kirk’s success come about because of his link up with the energetic Crewe full back who played behind him?
Perhaps the new guy signed today might replicate that for Kirk.6 - Sponsored links:
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Egbo is a right-back, Kirk (to my knowledge) has only ever really played down the left. But I think your point is valid, the signing of a decent attacking left-back will determine whether Kirk has a part to play.Valley11 said:Didn’t a lot of Kirk’s success come about because of his link up with the energetic Crewe full back who played behind him?
Perhaps the new guy signed today might replicate that for Kirk.2 -
Didn’t a lot of Kirk’s success come about because of his link up with the energetic Crewe full back who played behind him?
Perhaps the new guy signed today might replicate that for Kirk.
He would have to be a bloody good right back to link up with the left winger.
Hopefully Kirk gets a clear slate and Spain makes or breaks his Charlton career, like a dozen others.0 -
It’ll be interesting to see how he gets on in Spain with the group. He didn’t get that luxury last year, coming in at the end of the window.A training camp abroad can do wonders for team bonding and it might finally help him feel like it’s a place he belongs.If Garner plays 4-3-3 or 3-4-3, Kirk’s playing style of give and go, short and incisive passes in the final third will suit perfectly as part of a trio. When he signed, Artell told us that his best quality was his intelligence and vision around the penalty area. Like a third tier Jack Grealish.He will never be a winger that consistently beats his full back to the byline which is why asking him to fit a 3-5-2 will never work.7
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I assume he has been seen training at Sparrows Lane, no one’s mentioned it?0
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Was photographed arriving at SL on the OS.SoundAsa£ said:I assume he has been seen training at Sparrows Lane, no one’s mentioned it?3 -
No news our end which is no surprise with the new appointment. Guess he'll stay down south.2
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Callumcafc said:It’ll be interesting to see how he gets on in Spain with the group. He didn’t get that luxury last year, coming in at the end of the window.A training camp abroad can do wonders for team bonding and it might finally help him feel like it’s a place he belongs.If Garner plays 4-3-3 or 3-4-3, Kirk’s playing style of give and go, short and incisive passes in the final third will suit perfectly as part of a trio. When he signed, Artell told us that his best quality was his intelligence and vision around the penalty area. Like a third tier Jack Grealish.He will never be a winger that consistently beats his full back to the byline which is why asking him to fit a 3-5-2 will never work.
The Spain camp has indeed seen Kirk coming to SL in a positive frame of mind and he is hopeful of a better season with us.
This news can only be good for us and the lad himself.
Of course a positive frame of mind doesn't automatically convert to success on the pitch. Fingers crossed it does and this also suggests that Garner maybe improving things behind the scenes.
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It was mentioned by some in here granted, but I still think the effects of his dad dying was somewhat understated.
Assuming his dad was in his 50s, I know for sure if that happened to me when I was Kirk’s age it would devastate me to the point where I would not give a single sh1t about my work for some time, because that’s what it is at the end of the day, a job, I don’t think we can read into his 21/22 campaign at all for us especially or really Blackpool.We should be looking at his 20/21 season because that’s the last one where we should even remotely pass any sort of judgement.20 -
Sessegnon sounds like exactly the right kind of player to suit Kirk's preferred position/style of play so hopefully that will be a fruitful partnership3
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