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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)

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  • Your posts over the last page or two don’t come across as just having reservations. Closer to actively campaigning against the club and it’s recruitment process.

    What about Callum Johnson has provoked such a strong reaction? You say it’s only having reservations but your posts do not read that way. You or I have absolutely no idea how good he may or may not be unless he pulls on the shirt. Why not reserve judgement until then?

    What are you expecting and what would realistically satisfy your expectations?
    Also interested in reading the reply to this
  • Scoham said:
    Jonny Williams signing tomorrow according to Facebook


    We are signing a bloke dressed as a laughing emoji?
  • Scoham said:
    Jonny Williams signing tomorrow according to Facebook


    Don't want a player who eats a McDonald's..


    Gotta be a Burger King instead.
  • it can be surprising how naive some can be and how they are willing to accept and follow someone blindly, cannot accept when faced with someone who merely asks for proof and evidence. Surely proof is the minimum required before believing in something?

  • Cafc43v3r said:
    At the same time you, and others, have said signing players like Marquis and Bostock are repeating the mistakes of last season.

    I would agree if we had actually signed Marquis and Bostock.  We haven't, there is no credible rumour that we even might.
    But we've been heavily linked with them.  And not a lot of other players.   Apart from the new right back (potentially) and a 37 year old centre half.


  • No and it wasn't the point I was making if the subs bench was ready or not, it clearly wasn't and I'd be surprised if it's ready this season but we still put out a first team strength team who started the game that was more my point even if I didn't word it right. My main point is whoever we play first game we always have a first team strength team on the pitch even if it's nowhere near ready now, lack of players right now isn't going to worry me now, I'll worry about it first game when the first team is picked because whatever the circumstances whoever the owners it's something we always manage to do.
    Your expectations are on the floor. Not all of us feel the same as we'd like a a complete squad for the start of the season.
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  • No and it wasn't the point I was making if the subs bench was ready or not, it clearly wasn't and I'd be surprised if it's ready this season but we still put out a first team strength team who started the game that was more my point even if I didn't word it right. My main point is whoever we play first game we always have a first team strength team.
    What’s your surname…?
    Do you have a really hard shot?
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  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Before we signed them Hollands, Stephens, Taylor (M) and Wiggins would have been greatful for 4 solid seasons in league 1.  They had all had at least one year in league 2 and even lower.

    Each player needs to judged on how good they actually are now.  Other wise we end up in the pardox of not being actually able to sign anyone.

    Don't want league 1 players
    Don't want players on the way down
    Don't want other clubs rejects

    Who exactly should a mid table league 1 club be signing?

    Is our aim to be a mid table league one club?
  • Cafc43v3r said:
    Before we signed them Hollands, Stephens, Taylor (M) and Wiggins would have been greatful for 4 solid seasons in league 1.  They had all had at least one year in league 2 and even lower.

    Each player needs to judged on how good they actually are now.  Other wise we end up in the pardox of not being actually able to sign anyone.

    Don't want league 1 players
    Don't want players on the way down
    Don't want other clubs rejects

    Who exactly should a mid table league 1 club be signing?

    Players on the way up would be nice, can we have them?
  • That’s exactly what Callum Johnson is. A player in his mid twenties that has plenty of experience at this level, about to hit his prime years.

    Unfortunately, he’s not a flashy name in high demand which what I think some people actually want. Those people wet themselves with excitement over signing Charlie Kirk and Harry Arter.
    Again."Those" people.  

    Callum Johnson may have a higher bar than he currently plays at.  Nobody knows. We trust the manager and recruitment team think he will.

    We spend time digging out people who remain sceptical that things will get better.

    I don't agree with the doom and gloom merchants but questioning is within everybodies' rights.


  • Don’t see anyone being naive. I think Dazzler has made the most well reasoned post here which sums up the situation from my perspective nicely. 

    Unless people are privy to the workings of our recruitment process, no one knows what has or hasn’t changed. And we won’t know if that process has been successful until September at the earliest.

    So why the incessant whining every time someone is linked? We are a couple of weeks into a window that lasts 3+ months.

    To me, having reservations means reserving judgement. If it has a different definition elsewhere, let me know.
    Naive in the sense of the “club” (Thomas) has said mistakes were made and lessons learned, therefore this season is going to be amazing with a squad full of playmakers signed and we’ll walk to success this season.
    That’s  ok on here, what isn’t ok it would seem is to ask for where the evidence is for this optimism, or to bemoan a potential signing; a perfectly legitimate past time given it’s a football forum.
  • supaclive said:
    Nobody knows so you MAY be right you MAY be wrong.

    Ridiculing anybody for wanting to see evidence of the changes is plain daft.

    WHEN things change I'll be on board (for the third time of repeating)

    But you are saying I'm not reasonable.  I don't think you are reasonable for saying that.

    It's all about opinions.  My point is anybody questioning what we see is ridiculed.

    You appear adamant of what isn't happening and reject that anything may be being done differently.

    That's not being reasonable at all.

    I didn't say that we're doing everything differently, but it sounds as though we are taking a slightly different approach. If that is even 1% different then my point around the likelihood being in the middle is correct and your point of nothing being done differently is incorrect.

    I am not ridiculing you, I'm pretty pissed that it took so long to get Garner done & that we have no new signings ahead of our overseas camp. 

    I'm not going to assume the worst without evidence, just as you won't assume the best without it.


  • And regarding reserving judgment I agree, I refrain from bemoaning potential signings until they’re fully Charltonised…
  • Dazzler21 said:
    You appear adamant of what isn't happening and reject that anything may be being done differently.

    That's not being reasonable at all.

    I didn't say that we're doing everything differently, but it sounds as though we are taking a slightly different approach. If that is even 1% different then my point around the likelihood being in the middle is correct and your point of nothing being done differently is incorrect.

    I am not ridiculing you, I'm pretty pissed that it took so long to get Garner done & that we have no new signings ahead of our overseas camp. 

    I'm not going to assume the worst without evidence, just as you won't assume the best without it.


    It SOUNDS
    I have been at pains to say I reserve judgement until I SEE it
    Until then I remain unconvinced

    I'm allowed to remain unconvinced without ridicule

    As is anybody else

    If you think a 1% change puts you in.the middle, I'd hate to do your accounts!
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  • supaclive said:
    But we've been heavily linked with them.  And not a lot of other players.   Apart from the new right back (potentially) and a 37 year old centre half.


    Have we?  By Cawley, by proven ITK on here or twitter?  Or by some random name and 6 numbers on twitter?

    It's certainly produced a lot of traffic on here but I have yet to see a credible source for any of them.  Have you?
  • Would be nice to see some credible evidence of ANY transfer activities 😆
  • supaclive said:
    It SOUNDS
    I have been at pains to say I reserve judgement until I SEE it
    Until then I remain unconvinced

    I'm allowed to remain unconvinced without ridicule

    As is anybody else

    If you think a 1% change puts you in.the middle, I'd hate to do your accounts!
    It puts us somewhere in between completely different and completely the same. I should be able to give my opinion without ridicule if you're demanding to give yours without it.
  • supaclive said:
    It SOUNDS
    I have been at pains to say I reserve judgement until I SEE it
    Until then I remain unconvinced

    I'm allowed to remain unconvinced without ridicule

    As is anybody else

    If you think a 1% change puts you in.the middle, I'd hate to do your accounts!
    I agree with superclive.

    ”Missouri” or if you prefer WIOTOS.
  • Dazzler21 said:
    It puts us somewhere in between completely different and completely the same. I should be able to give my opinion without ridicule if you're demanding to give yours without it.

    No ridicule.  Just said 1% isn't in the middle.   Simple maths.
  • Assuming that nothing has changed is no more sensible or likely than assuming that something has changed. It's Schrodinger's paradox at this point.

    But basing opinions on the links to the like of Marquis and Bostock etc is utterly pointless given that there's been no genuine indication we have any interest in them at all. Tucker at least got a Cawley "understanding" that we'd tried but probably not succeeded. Anyone and everyone else linked is pure Twitter speculation at best and utter nonsense at worst.
  • edited June 2022
    I stated originally "Likelihood is that it's somewhere in between... And any reasonable person could appreciate that. "

    So you admit that you cannot accept 1% different puts us somewhere between 0% change and 100%. Got it. Good to know. 

    Instead you ridicule a simply poorly worded recount in a later post. Then say you're not. 

    Whatever man, if you're enjoying wallowing in misery, you go for it. Just know whilst misery loves company, company does not love misery. It becomes tiresome for everyone and drags us all down.
  • “I remain to be convinced and so does my wife!”
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