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Summer 2022 transfer rumours (Gilbey loan confirmed p513, a signing falls through last minute p541)
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That's the stuff of nightmares.Callumcafc said:Marquis and Davison up front first game of the season.2 -
Marquis is a good signing if he’s going to be 4th choice. New Striker, Stockley, Aneke and Marquis would be fine but if it’s Davison and the other 3 then that’s not good enough3
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Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.
He may moan on the pitch when balls fly over his head but he is a great bloke and family man and nearly took the title of nicest Cafc Charlton player I have met but Johnnie Williams just shades it. A gentle giant off the pitch but will play with an edge on it. He has obvious limitations but in League 1 he can really be an asset in both boxes.
I'm a great believer in replacing your most ineffective players first ? Both Gunter and Watson have had good careers but for various reasons they were mainly ineffectual for Cafc and both had one season too long at Charlton ( it could be argued longer but contracts can complicate matters.)11 -
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
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I just want to mirror this, one of the nicest blokes I've ever met and I've met him a several times.soapboxsam said:Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.
He may moan on the pitch when balls fly over his head but he is a great bloke and family man and nearly took the title of nicest Cafc Charlton player I have met but Johnnie Williams just shades it.3 -
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....3 -
If we sign him and only him I would be worried.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....1 -
Tbh mate I can, think at the very least he is tailor made to be a false 9. He is strong, can keep it and when he gets it he makes the players trying to win it back look like u13s. If he could play all 46 and for at least 80 mins, wingers and full backs would thrive cause they would have more freedom.wmcf123 said:
Can you really see Chuks playing up front on his own ? Clare at right back, I will give you . Dobson and CBT, yes , with the right players around them.Braziliance said:
I would argue we have 5 in Dobson, CBT, JFC, Fraser and Clare, maybe 6 if Chuks could stay fit.wmcf123 said:
We don’t have the players for 433.Braziliance said:Tbf he suits the 433 system and offers more as a lone striker than Stockley imo. He can pass and play a bit with it on the ground, would be a far better lone striker from what I’ve seen of him, only watched him in person around 5 times mindThen again what players do we have the obvious formation for?Guess that is why TS has pulled the trigger twice and is going for a manager that has an actual philosophy rather than just getting a nice bloke with a footballing background.Problem is if Chuks could show that kind of fitness he would be top half championship at least0 -
LTKapal said:
I just want to mirror this, one of the nicest bloked I've ever met and I've met him a several times.soapboxsam said:Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.
He may moan on the pitch when balls fly over his head but he is a great bloke and family man and nearly took the title of nicest Cafc Charlton player I have met but Johnnie Williams just shades it.
So you will know that the last thing that Jayden's wants is to go back up north with his young family. If he left Cafc IF not fancied by new manager then Portsmouth in League 1 would be his preferred choice as no way unfortunately for Stockley will Parker at*Bournemouth go for the lad from Poole. (Maybe as a Squad player !)
A big number 9 is a great option to have so it's possible Bristol City could be interested?
*Jayden made his debut for Bournemouth at 16 and Eddie Howe had to get permission from his school as it was exams time.
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I think Danny Cowley, whatever your opinion of him is, is someone better placed to describe Marquis strengths then most people.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....
Also, if you look at databases such as football manager his best role is actually that of pressing forward.4 -
Bristol isn't significantly nearer than Sheffield...both are nearer than Wigan though :-)soapboxsam said:LTKapal said:
I just want to mirror this, one of the nicest bloked I've ever met and I've met him a several times.soapboxsam said:Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.
He may moan on the pitch when balls fly over his head but he is a great bloke and family man and nearly took the title of nicest Cafc Charlton player I have met but Johnnie Williams just shades it.
So you will know that the last thing that Jayden's wants is to go back up north with his young family. If he left Cafc IF not fancied by new manager then Portsmouth in League 1 would be his preferred choice as no way unfortunately for Stockley will Parker at*Bournemouth go for the lad from Poole. (Maybe as a Squad player !)
A big number 9 is a great option to have so it's possible Bristol City could be interested?
*Jayden made his debut for Bournemouth at 16 and Eddie Howe had to get permission from his school as it was exams time.0 -
Stockley to Newcastle for £10m. Loose change for them nowsoapboxsam said:LTKapal said:
I just want to mirror this, one of the nicest bloked I've ever met and I've met him a several times.soapboxsam said:Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.
He may moan on the pitch when balls fly over his head but he is a great bloke and family man and nearly took the title of nicest Cafc Charlton player I have met but Johnnie Williams just shades it.
So you will know that the last thing that Jayden's wants is to go back up north with his young family. If he left Cafc IF not fancied by new manager then Portsmouth in League 1 would be his preferred choice as no way unfortunately for Stockley will Parker at*Bournemouth go for the lad from Poole. (Maybe as a Squad player !)
A big number 9 is a great option to have so it's possible Bristol City could be interested?
*Jayden made his debut for Bournemouth at 16 and Eddie Howe had to get permission from his school as it was exams time.
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It could happen!Callumcafc said:Marquis and Davison up front first game of the season.0 -
Would prefer to keep Stockley, and add 2 more forwards.1
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I’ve not seen enough of him or watched him closely enough to know how effectively presses.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....
Washington presses well but he’s also not a lone striker which is how I expect we’ll line up most of the time.1 -
Already appointed Simon Grayson …Cafc43v3r said:
Ex Blackpool player so passes the Blackpool Life sat nav test.Callumcafc said:Ian Evatt 2/1 next Blackpool manager. Would be a big blow for Bolton if he left.
Really high potential rating in champman99/00 as well........3 -
Elliot Lee 😬😬0
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Marquis is the Stockley replacement, Stockton and a pacy striker in too please, leaving Davison the 4th choice behind those 3 and Aneke used more as a second striker0
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Says the bloke moaning incessantly that MS isn't best qualified in his role.supaclive said:
I will take my own opinion in front of Danny Cowley.Scoham said:
And I shared this the other day in another thread, sounds like his ability or desire to press isn’t an issue.supaclive said:
Agree he’s not the striker we need.
https://www.molineuxmix.co.uk/forum/index.php?threads/danny-cowley-gives-his-verdict-on-misfiring-john-marquis-at-portsmouth.588829/
“He tried so hard for the team, defended from the front brilliantly and did great for Marcus’ (Harness) goal, but he missed some chances – that’s the life of a number nine, I guess.
But nevertheless we both agree he's not the centre forward we need, but I fear he IS the centre forward we are getting....
You couldn't make it up.5 -
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And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.0 -
I’m not convinced by Marquis either but I’ll be very concerned if every single signing is in their early 20s. Even Roland didn’t go that far.golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.0 -
And he’s very good at defending our cornersMendonca In Asdas said:Would prefer to keep Stockley, and add 2 more forwards.2 -
The average age of non loan first team player we brought in last season was 26.golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.Wigan, your ‘we should be doing it like this’ team after you spent all of last pre season saying that about Ipswich, brought in plenty of players who were 28/29 +.
Could only imagine your reaction last season if we had purchased Josh Magennis for instance.But you need to build a squad for a long league campaign, and there is a reason pretty much any manager will talk about the worth of having experience in your side.1 -
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.6 -
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.2 -
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
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No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.0 -
A young pacy striker isn’t necessary the best in a 433 though surely?golfaddick said:
No, not every one.FishCostaFortune said:
And you’ve interpreted that to mean that every player we buy from now on must be 25 and under or TS is not true to his word on this?golfaddick said:
I'm just reiterating what we keep on being told.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
If we bought a whole squad of players who were 23-25, you'd be moaning we needed more experience!golfaddick said:
And doesnt fit in with the so called " buy young & then they have value if you want to sell them".supaclive said:If Marquis signs there is no high press coming
He's 30. Should be buying players around 23,24,25.
Its like nothing has been learnt over the past 2 years.
Youth
Saleable
For the future.
But then again, when did Sandgaard's actions match his words.
Among many awful takes by you that’s got to be up there with the worst.
But I'd like to see us bring in a young pacey striker, not a 30 year old lump. Start as you mean to go on.
But hey ho.1 -
A goal every 194 minutes is decent, but you normally find that teams getting promoted will have strikers with better stats than that.Croydon said:I don't like Stockley as a bloke or as a footballer but you can't argue with his goal scoring record for us. Would be absolute madness to let him go.0
