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Charlie Kirk (p68 - released by Barrow)
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It happened at the wrong time insofar as Adkins got the boot shortly after and Jackson is stuck on playing wing backs. Of all our wingers, he looked the least likely to offer much defensively shortly followed by Leko, DJ and CBT, none of whom are particularly great at it either.thickandthin63 said:The Kirk to Charlton transfer happened at the wrong time,he had lost his father,and then to ask a young lad to uproot and live 200 miles away with a bunch of strangers ,no family around him,was completely wrong,and it showed in his play.I think there is a good player there,if he does come back to us under more settled circumstances,he could prove a lot of people wrong.
If we played with traditional wingers, he may have done better (although I’m not convinced) but, whilst JJ is manager he won’t be playing and I can see him being moved on back up north in the summer.
To think of the excitement when he did join! Very disappointing and very much in keeping with the season as a whole…..0 -
That's DJ slander! He's a very accomplished defender nowadays. He's even concentrating on it so much he doesn't really attack any more5
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Blackpool if indeed they do want to sign Kirk will be looking for cut price transaction.
What Jackson has said is the only thing you can say to counter, we will use him rather than take a silly offer.
It also hands out an olive branch to the player if no one is willing to meet our valuation. In reality he probably doesn't want to come back and neither does JJ want him and could do with money coming back in to the budget.1 -
Was at their game yesterday, i'm confident they won't sign him.0
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Not what their own fan said aboveJ BLOCK said:Was at their game yesterday, i'm confident they won't sign him.0 -
My understanding is that the option to buy is set at £500k.StrikerFirmani said:Blackpool if indeed they do want to sign Kirk will be looking for cut price transaction.
What Jackson has said is the only thing you can say to counter, we will use him rather than take a silly offer.
It also hands out an olive branch to the player if no one is willing to meet our valuation. In reality he probably doesn't want to come back and neither does JJ want him and could do with money coming back in to the budget.0 -
Yeah it was set at the same amount we paid for him I think (?). That being said, doesn’t mean Blackpool can’t attempt to renegotiate the transfer fee.Redrobo said:
My understanding is that the option to buy is set at £500k.StrikerFirmani said:Blackpool if indeed they do want to sign Kirk will be looking for cut price transaction.
What Jackson has said is the only thing you can say to counter, we will use him rather than take a silly offer.
It also hands out an olive branch to the player if no one is willing to meet our valuation. In reality he probably doesn't want to come back and neither does JJ want him and could do with money coming back in to the budget.0 -
Isn't that what they did with Owen Dale in Jan? Went back to Crewe briefly whilst Blackpool renegotiated the price?
Personally would kind of like to see Kirk get another chance but if we're only ever going to play 352 , I'd expect a deal to be struck with someone.1 -
So was the option to buy of a Crew player they took on loan but they tried to get him cheaper at the end of it.Redrobo said:
My understanding is that the option to buy is set at £500k.StrikerFirmani said:Blackpool if indeed they do want to sign Kirk will be looking for cut price transaction.
What Jackson has said is the only thing you can say to counter, we will use him rather than take a silly offer.
It also hands out an olive branch to the player if no one is willing to meet our valuation. In reality he probably doesn't want to come back and neither does JJ want him and could do with money coming back in to the budget.1 - Sponsored links:
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se9addick said:
Yeah it was set at the same amount we paid for him I think (?). That being said, doesn’t mean Blackpool can’t attempt to renegotiate the transfer fee.Redrobo said:
My understanding is that the option to buy is set at £500k.StrikerFirmani said:Blackpool if indeed they do want to sign Kirk will be looking for cut price transaction.
What Jackson has said is the only thing you can say to counter, we will use him rather than take a silly offer.
It also hands out an olive branch to the player if no one is willing to meet our valuation. In reality he probably doesn't want to come back and neither does JJ want him and could do with money coming back in to the budget.
Sorry posted previously before reading to the end but exactly these comments.MarcusH26 said:Isn't that what they did with Owen Dale in Jan? Went back to Crewe briefly whilst Blackpool renegotiated the price?
Personally would kind of like to see Kirk get another chance but if we're only ever going to play 352 , I'd expect a deal to be struck with someone.0 -
Some Managers pick the best available players that suit a particular system. Other Managers pick a system that suits the best available players. The ones that have the ability to do the latter and get the best out of them in doing so will always be better Managers and have more success in the long term in my opinion.2
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Personally, I wouldn’t like to see Kirk wearing our shirt again.5
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Personally, I think you will get your wish…SoundAsa£ said:Personally, I wouldn’t like to see Kirk wearing our shirt again.1 -
Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/
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Im shockedKarim_myBagheri said:Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/0 -
That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk.2
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Where are you going to get the other £5m from?Hertsseasider said:That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk.
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They've got staff on the Blackpool Promenade as we speak, desperately trying to win pennies from the arcadesricky_otto said:
Where are you going to get the other £5m from?Hertsseasider said:That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk. 0 - Sponsored links:
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Crewe took our pants down in spectacular fashion on CKKarim_myBagheri said:Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/
Expectations of getting a significant 6 figure fee for that one-paced lightweight are cloud cuckoo land.
Our experience with DJ and CK suggests there's quite the gulf between midtable 4th and midtable 3rd division quality2 -
I thought Kirk looked as if he fitted into the Blackpool side nicely 8at a higher level than ours). While he had a miserable time with us, our 3-5-2 meant he was basically locked out of the team, but a new manager may feel there is a useful player there in a different formation.
Of course, he may feel the whole 'down south/Charleto experience was enough, but personally, I's like to see if we can get a performance out of him before writing off. Blackpool seemed to be able to do so.0 -
He was never rubbish for an us, he just wasn't good either. And yet a Championship club is interesting in buying him so clearly we didn't see his best.Billy_Mix said:
Crewe took our pants down in spectacular fashion on CKKarim_myBagheri said:Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/
Expectations of getting a significant 6 figure fee for that one-paced lightweight are cloud cuckoo land.
Our experience with DJ and CK suggests there's quite the gulf between midtable 4th and midtable 3rd division quality1 -
Chunes said:
He was never rubbish for an us, he just wasn't good either. And yet a Championship club is interesting in buying him so clearly we didn't see his best.Billy_Mix said:
Crewe took our pants down in spectacular fashion on CKKarim_myBagheri said:Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/
Expectations of getting a significant 6 figure fee for that one-paced lightweight are cloud cuckoo land.
Our experience with DJ and CK suggests there's quite the gulf between midtable 4th and midtable 3rd division quality
Before the Ipswich away game when Gilbey won the award for the crappiest individual performance of the season, Charlie Kirk had the lowest average score from a game where we tried to play him more central in the 8 role which should've been ok for him unless he is a one trick pony who can only play on the left with an attacking full back or Wing backs who overlaps then Charlie either passes to the speedy wing back or else cuts inside on to his right foot.
Please tell me there's more to Charlie's game than that ? Doesn't seem to have much pace and can he tackle ?
Kirk, Fraser and JFC are all one pace, slowish, so where are the legs coming from in midfield. Morgan and Gilbey have good stat for movement but both have other weaknesses. Dobson will in his career turn into a Central midfielder in my opinion after seeing him burst forward against Morecambe at home second half and a good goal in the away game recently at Donny.
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Nice! We’ll take £1m for Kirk please.Hertsseasider said:That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk.2 -
Think we put the price we paid on it. £500k.Callumcafc said:
Nice! We’ll take £1m for Kirk please.Hertsseasider said:That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk.1 -
They haven't taken the option. It's off the table.Dazzler21 said:
Think we put the price we paid on it. £500k.Callumcafc said:
Nice! We’ll take £1m for Kirk please.Hertsseasider said:That's the consensus our end. Expecting Josh Bowler to go to Bournemouth for around £5m and then we'll move for Kirk.1 -
But both were playing well in the 3rd, not the 4th, division?Billy_Mix said:
Crewe took our pants down in spectacular fashion on CKKarim_myBagheri said:Sent him back to us so they can re negotiate buying him for a cheaper price.
https://londonnewsonline.co.uk/blackpool-still-interested-in-summer-deal-for-charlton-athletic-winger/
Expectations of getting a significant 6 figure fee for that one-paced lightweight are cloud cuckoo land.
Our experience with DJ and CK suggests there's quite the gulf between midtable 4th and midtable 3rd division quality
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Did I see a picture of Kirk wearing a syrup recently?0
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The sale of (or retention of)charlie kirk could be the most important transfer business we do in terms of releasing funds or acquiring (and using appropriately)a quality footballer.Is he a young paddy powel.i.e a winger with no pace but effective if used right1
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