2022 World Cup draw (1st April, 5pm UK)
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I’m just thankful that the announcement of next season’s League One fixtures don’t involve so much fuffing about.0
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Real lack of interest in this WC, maybe that will change nearer the time.Would not get too complacent with that group. Yes we are looking stronger these days but history shows we’re more than capable of making very hard work of it none-the-less.1
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The_Organiser said:Real lack of interest in this WC, maybe that will change nearer the time.Would not get too complacent with that group. Yes we are looking stronger these days but history shows we’re more than capable of making very hard work of it none-the-less.0
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The_Organiser said:Real lack of interest in this WC, maybe that will change nearer the time.Would not get too complacent with that group. Yes we are looking stronger these days but history shows we’re more than capable of making very hard work of it none-the-less.
But fully expect all three Nations that we play to sit behind the ball grab a point and if the opportunity is there, take all three - They'll then play more expansive against each other to get through
Its why I'm not overly a fan of potentially having Wales in our Group, as its pretty much what they did @ Euro 2016 against us - Especially in the second half of that game
Thankfully under Southgate it feels as though we've learnt to deal with that sort of defensive approach from opponents, so am a little more confident than I would have been in previous years.0 -
MrOneLung said:All the clubs will have something to play for - it is November0
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If things go well in Qatar, and we don’t fluff our lines in the Group stage, the Q/F are as far as we can reasonably expect to go. As soon as we meet any Top 10 team in a major competition we must lose, it’s the law0
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Callumcafc said:Siv_in_Norfolk said:Has anybody seen a guide to the second round (onwards) match ups?
I.e. If we win the group, which 2nd place tram do we play? Group A?
I assume there is now a clear 2 sides to the draw to see who we can't meet until the final?
The winner would play Group D winner or Group C runner up in a quarter final.
Any potential semi final would be against Group F winner, Group H winner or Group E runner-up, Group G runner-up.
If England finish runners up, flip everything above into reverse.
- Group A winner in round of 16, Group C winner or Group D runner-up in quarter-final. Semi final against Group E winner, Group G winner or Group F runner-up, Group H runner-up.
In terms of Pot 1 teams, you have England, France, Belgium and Portugal on one "side" of the knockout. Then Qatar, Argentina, Spain and Brazil on the other.
Assume all Pot 1 teams win groups and make it to the QF, you would have the following games:
Qatar v Argentina
Spain v Brazil
England v France
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I feel like the outside of Europe World Cups always have some really strange results, so I wouldn't be predicting any QF fixtures just yet. It wasn't long ago that Costa Rica topped a group containing England, Italy and Uruguay. Saying that, We should be very happy with the draw on paper and I have full confidence in Southgate and this group of players getting the job done.4
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Andyessgee90 said:Am I the only one who doesn’t understand; how can Scotland/Wales be drawn in our group. But Iran v Saudi Arabia can’t happen and Brazil v Uruguay can’t happen?
FIFA already been tipped off.
What will Mr Johnson say when he eventually finds out?
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The opening game has been switched.Senegal v Netherlands will open the show now instead. Qatar will kick off in the 7pm slot for prime time local viewing.1
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1PM for Iran
7PM for USA
7PM for final game
actually prefer they have chosen times after the games. Would make no sense for us to play USA at 10AM, which is rubbish for European and American viewers.4 -
Manic_mania said:RoanRedNY said:Watching this in the US and with their flag waving only USA slant, that catweazle guy who used to play center back of sorts for US about 30 years ago has answered the presenters question about a “path to the World Cup” saying he is very pleased with the draw and, with references to ‘98, states that every match in the group is easily winnable. I never feel that way about the England team, and this is the claptrap we have to listen to over here, remembering that they secured qualification behind Mexico and Canada by avoiding a 6 goal defeat to Costa Rica…..the hung on for a 2-0 loss……
I hope we absolutely stuff themhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXjCKwBtG0I
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Spain v Germany and France v Denmark are the games I'm looking forward to that don't involve us.0
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Impossible not to look forward to Ghana v Uruguay after the last time too. Still some real hatred after Suarez and one of those ‘World Cup moments’ for the ages7
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RoanRedNY said:If things go well in Qatar, and we don’t fluff our lines in the Group stage, the Q/F are as far as we can reasonably expect to go. As soon as we meet any Top 10 team in a major competition we must lose, it’s the law
That's because the FA continuously appointed managers who were either tactically inept, or they simply didn't give a shit (Fabio capello)
Gareth Southgate, on the other hand, isn't a bad manager and I believe he is still learning, and learning well.
We beat the Germans in the knockout stage last year. At least that's something.
Italy were just about the better side on the day and we blew it, but I believe this squad is still growing and is capable of more.
My only fear is the Harry Maguire situation. Fans booing him is really stupid.
He's obviously not good enough for Man United and it's not going well, but that's no one else's problem.
He certainly was good enough at the euros. If he gets completely drained of confidence, he will need full replacing asap.
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stackitsteve said:Impossible not to look forward to Ghana v Uruguay after the last time too. Still some real hatred after Suarez and one of those ‘World Cup moments’ for the ages0
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I love the group stages of major tournaments - wall to wall football! This year I've packed in work so already relishing the idea of kick offs at 10/1/4/7.
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shirty5 said:NapaAddick said:USA and England in the same group. Love it!0
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sam3110 said:If we can't top a group of USA, Iran (interesting match there...) And one of the minnows of Europe, or Ukraine, who's team will probably be too busy fighting a war to play, then we may as well retire from international football as a nation0
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Have got tickets to the following:
21st. USA VS Wales/Scot/Ukraine
22nd. Argentina vs Saudi Arabia
23rd. Morocco vs Croatia
24th. Brazil vs Serbia
26th. Argentina vs Mexico
27th. Spain vs Germany
28th. South Korea vs Ghana
29th. Iran vs USA
30th. Poland vs Argentina
1st. Japan vs Spain
2nd. Ghana vs Uruguay
No England games, but shouldn’t be too much of an issue as we get closer to the tournament. Iran/USA will clash with England’s 3rd group game, but there is something about that match that feels like it’s one that could be a ‘special’ one to attend, for lack of a better term.
Am going to try and get to see France and Portugal whilst out there too.
Excitement has definitely kicked in again since the draw yesterday.
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cafctom said:Have got tickets to the following:
21st. USA VS Wales/Scot/Ukraine
22nd. Argentina vs Saudi Arabia
23rd. Morocco vs Croatia
24th. Brazil vs Serbia
26th. Argentina vs Mexico
27th. Spain vs Germany
28th. South Korea vs Ghana
29th. Iran vs USA
30th. Poland vs Argentina
1st. Japan vs Spain
2nd. Ghana vs Uruguay
No England games, but shouldn’t be too much of an issue as we get closer to the tournament. Iran/USA will clash with England’s 3rd group game, but there is something about that match that feels like it’s one that could be a ‘special’ one to attend, for lack of a better term.
Am going to try and get to see France and Portugal whilst out there too.
Excitement has definitely kicked in again since the draw yesterday.
Well done for getting those tickets and getting involved
Germany Vs Spain will surely be worth a lot of money later in the year.
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cafctom said:Have got tickets to the following:
21st. USA VS Wales/Scot/Ukraine
22nd. Argentina vs Saudi Arabia
23rd. Morocco vs Croatia
24th. Brazil vs Serbia
26th. Argentina vs Mexico
27th. Spain vs Germany
28th. South Korea vs Ghana
29th. Iran vs USA
30th. Poland vs Argentina
1st. Japan vs Spain
2nd. Ghana vs Uruguay
No England games, but shouldn’t be too much of an issue as we get closer to the tournament. Iran/USA will clash with England’s 3rd group game, but there is something about that match that feels like it’s one that could be a ‘special’ one to attend, for lack of a better term.
Am going to try and get to see France and Portugal whilst out there too.
Excitement has definitely kicked in again since the draw yesterday.
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stackitsteve said:The opening game has been switched.Senegal v Netherlands will open the show now instead. Qatar will kick off in the 7pm slot for prime time local viewing.
Who am I kidding? I was going to do that for Qatar v Ecuador anyway…
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England v Iran at Khalifa International Stadium
https://youtu.be/3hCkWzGYc1M
England v USA at Al Bayt Stadium (this is also where Group B winner will play round of 16, quarter final and semi final)
https://youtu.be/bJavR2NsGF4
Wales or Scotland/Ukraine v England at Ahmad bin Ali Stadium
https://youtu.be/zUSSg81SG8I
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Breakdown of games and the KO times (UK) - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60959746
Its worth noting there are three games on a Saturday @ 3pm (2nd Round | Quarter-Final | 3rd Place)
So if we're home / away on those dates
Be fully prepared for the Charlton game to be moved to 1pm if there is the potential for a clash with England e.g.
the Second Round game definitely involve England if we finish 2nd in the Group
the Quarter-Final game will definitely involve England if we win the Group and get through the 2nd Round
the third place game will obviously involve England if we lose in the Semi-Finals0 -
Or moved to Sunday1
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Potentially England v France at 3pm on a Saturday.
I can’t see many teams keeping their 3pm kickoff time.1 -
There's only one Saturday in the group phase, the 26thGroup C: Poland v Saudi Arabia (13:00), Argentina v Mexico (19:00)
Group D : Tunisia v UAE/Australia/Peru (10:00), France v Denmark (16:00)
The France Denmark game is the only one that clashes with 3pm kickoffs. I imagine clubs will show the 1pm game on TVs and big screens at the grounds1 -
said:Am I the only one who doesn’t understand; how can Scotland/Wales be drawn in our group. But Iran v Saudi Arabia can’t happen and Brazil v Uruguay can’t happen?1