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2022 World Cup draw (1st April, 5pm UK)

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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    RoanRedNY said:
    Watching this in the US and with their flag waving only USA slant, that catweazle guy who used to play center back of sorts for US about 30 years ago has answered the presenters question about a “path to the World Cup” saying he is very pleased with the draw and, with references to ‘98, states that every match in the group is easily winnable.  I never feel that way about the England team, and this is the claptrap we have to listen to over here, remembering that they secured qualification behind Mexico and Canada by avoiding a 6 goal defeat to Costa Rica…..the hung on for a 2-0 loss……

    I hope we absolutely stuff them
    Alexi Lalas is a knob.
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    RoanRedNY said:
    Watching this in the US and with their flag waving only USA slant, that catweazle guy who used to play center back of sorts for US about 30 years ago has answered the presenters question about a “path to the World Cup” saying he is very pleased with the draw and, with references to ‘98, states that every match in the group is easily winnable.  I never feel that way about the England team, and this is the claptrap we have to listen to over here, remembering that they secured qualification behind Mexico and Canada by avoiding a 6 goal defeat to Costa Rica…..the hung on for a 2-0 loss……

    I hope we absolutely stuff them
    Will be an interesting game, wonder if it will be decided by a penalty shot in the fourth quarter...? 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    edited April 2022
    Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Scotland will probably have a vigorous warm up against Andorra u15’s and nick a 0-0 win.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited April 2022
    Scotland and USA fans are already incredibly excited.

    Scotland will be hoping to make it through their play-off for a chance at another 0-0 win while the US will be wanting the 1-1 win they achieved in 2010.


  • Last WC with 32 teams, just seen that 2026 will have 48 teams, fucking hell!

    23 teams from CONCACAF, Africa and Asia (up from the current 12) means there's going to be some really shit teams there.
  • RoanRedNY
    RoanRedNY Posts: 1,147
    Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Hopefully, wins against Iran And Euro plus at least 6 against the USA are our warm ups!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited April 2022
    Last WC with 32 teams, just seen that 2026 will have 48 teams, fucking hell!

    23 teams from CONCACAF, Africa and Asia (up from the current 12) means there's going to be some really shit teams there.
    They’re going back to groups of three teams, sixteen of them - with the top two from the three qualifying for the knockout phase. 

    Knockout phase begins with 32 teams. The group stage is effectively an irrelevant play-off round for the top nations.
  • Manic_mania
    Manic_mania Posts: 2,257
    Last WC with 32 teams, just seen that 2026 will have 48 teams, fucking hell!

    23 teams from CONCACAF, Africa and Asia (up from the current 12) means there's going to be some really shit teams there.
    The draw alone will take days 
  • GMT kick off times; 10AM, 1PM, 4PM and 7PM.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited April 2022
    GMT kick off times; 10AM, 1PM, 4PM and 7PM.
    Yes for the group stages. Knockout rounds will be 3pm and 7pm daily.

    The final will be at 3pm on a Sunday. Would imagine the semi finals will also be 3pm but could be 7pm…
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  • Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Hardly any time. Premier league ends on 13 November, our first game is 21st.
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited April 2022
    The last international break before the World Cup is 19-27th September. Is any Nations League scheduled for that window or can it be used for WC warm up?

    Edit: just checked, it’s being used for Nations League matchday five and six after matchdays 1-4 are played in June.

    England schedule for September:

    Italy (A) 23rd
    Germany (H) 26th
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,841
    Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Hardly any time. Premier league ends on 13 November, our first game is 21st.
    The final round of club matches across Europe will be a joke, with players desperately trying to avoid getting injured

    Because of the short turnaround time, any injured players are likely to be replaced before it starts, unless they're essential.
  • GMT kick off times; 10AM, 1PM, 4PM and 7PM.
    Yes for the group stages. Knockout rounds will be 3pm and 7pm daily.

    The final will be at 3pm on a Sunday. Would imagine the semi finals will also be 3pm but could be 7pm…
    Wiki says semi finals are 10pm local time in Qatar, which i think will be 7 in the UK.
  • Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Hardly any time. Premier league ends on 13 November, our first game is 21st.
    The final round of club matches across Europe will be a joke, with players desperately trying to avoid getting injured

    Because of the short turnaround time, any injured players are likely to be replaced before it starts, unless they're essential.
    Chris Gunter started doing that about two years ago.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,300
    edited April 2022
    Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Wonder if there will be any warm up games.
    Hardly any time. Premier league ends on 13 November, our first game is 21st.
    The one thing I notice from the England fixtures is the fact there are no fixtures currently scheduled for October - Maybe thats because of the placement of the World Cup, but also wonder if we'll play two games in that month

    The Nations League after all takes place in June and September

    Edit: Nope, forget that idea of friendlies being in October - There isnt an International Break

    https://digitalhub.fifa.com/m/15b0e15fd2271292/original/FIFA-International-Match-Calendar-2020-2024.pdf

    Getting it right in the Nations League will be very important then

  • Group E, G and H look the most interesting.
  • Rothko
    Rothko Posts: 18,801
    amusing what’s the Scots and Welsh assuming they are the two going for that place, the Ukrainians will be on a mission, and will stuff both on the way
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,374
    Rothko said:
    amusing what’s the Scots and Welsh assuming they are the two going for that place, the Ukrainians will be on a mission, and will stuff both on the way
    You forgot Wales have The Gunter.
  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Has anybody seen a guide to the second round (onwards) match ups?

    I.e. If we win the group, which 2nd place tram do we play? Group A?

    I assume there is now a clear 2 sides to the draw to see who we can't meet until the final?
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  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,759
    edited April 2022
    Has anybody seen a guide to the second round (onwards) match ups?

    I.e. If we win the group, which 2nd place tram do we play? Group A?

    I assume there is now a clear 2 sides to the draw to see who we can't meet until the final?
    Group B winner v Group A runner up in round of 16.

    The winner would play Group D winner or Group C runner up in a quarter final.

    Any potential semi final would be against Group F winner, Group H winner or Group E runner-up, Group G runner-up.



    If England finish runners up, flip everything above into reverse.
    - Group A winner in round of 16, Group C winner or Group D runner-up in quarter-final. Semi final against Group E winner, Group G winner or Group F runner-up, Group H runner-up.





    In terms of Pot 1 teams, you have England, France, Belgium and Portugal on one "side" of the knockout. Then Qatar, Argentina, Spain and Brazil on the other.

    Assume all Pot 1 teams win groups and make it to the QF, you would have the following games:

    Qatar v Argentina
    Spain v Brazil

    England v France
    Belgium v Portugal


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  • Siv_in_Norfolk
    Siv_in_Norfolk Posts: 4,057
    Thanks for above. V useful. 

    I like the way that there is no complete division between 2 halves of the draw at this stage. I.e. we can potentially play any other team in the semi and final (if we get there!)

    We know we have team from A-D in QF (if we get there)
  • shine166
    shine166 Posts: 13,916

  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Dave2l said:
    I more so warm to the idea that whoever wins the competition....will host the next one.

    If that country wins it again, then they host it again.

    Sounds a bit unfair on poorer countries etc, but it is a simple solution to a resolvable money grabbing boring problem 
    I only earlier this evening said something similar (again) to my son. I would limit it to one every 20/24 years for any one country however. 
    If the winners by this rule can't host it then it goes to the country with the best coefficient of progress in the tournament over the last 20 years (5 or 6 competitions).
    I simply don't like countries getting the tournament who haven't earnt the right. Imagine if the last five World Cups had been held by Brazil, Italy, Spain, Germany and now this year in France. For organisation purposes an 8 year rather than 4 year wait may be needed but in any case bollocks to South Africa, Russia and Qatar.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Couldn’t care who we play. Care more about the timings than the opposition. Personally would hope we get Germany or Scotland to make the build up to a game more exciting. 
    Four games daily through the knockout rounds with kick off times: 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm

    Knockout stage kick offs: 3pm, 7pm
    They are shit kick off times.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    Have ordered bulk load of US flags for their game against Iran. One set to wave and one set to be burned 
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,763
    Going to be quite a different WC experience, rather than an endless build up and hype over a month where players have to get match fit again, the players will have a week between playing for their clubs and the WC
    Or not playing for their clubs. Wonder how many players that are at teams that have nothing to play for will conveniently have a twinge or two!
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,835
    All the clubs will have something to play for - it is November 
  • Danepak
    Danepak Posts: 1,628
    Couldn’t care who we play. Care more about the timings than the opposition. Personally would hope we get Germany or Scotland to make the build up to a game more exciting. 
    Four games daily through the knockout rounds with kick off times: 10am, 1pm, 4pm, 7pm

    Knockout stage kick offs: 3pm, 7pm
    They are shit kick off times.


    Try living in NZ then:
    11pm, 2am, 5am and 8am