Football arrests 'highest in years' & disorder on the rise - police

randy andy · February 2022

The problem is that making people angry is just too profitable. You have right-wing media (Mail, Express, Fox News, etc.) who have always profited from riling up their readers/viewers, but they had a limited reach, Most people only read the paper once a day for a short period of time, if they even read the paper every day, whilst Fox News viewers (mostly) aren't watching it 24/7.

Now with the reach of the internet and mobile technologies allowing those serial anger generators into our pockets and Facebook (having been proven to deliberately antagonise their users because upset users engage longer and generate bigger revenues), society is become anger saturated. Look at a lot of modern advertising. It's designed not to convince us to use the product, but to be as annoying and anger-inducing as possible so that the brand sticks in our head.

The human psyche just isn't designed to cope with that amount of anger. Outbursts and violence are inevitable when a society is permanently angry.

Though we do have to avoid hyperbole and overstating that stats. Violent crime has risen, but is still way below it's peak in previous decades. In 1995 the violent crime rate in the UK was 64 incidents per 1000 adults. By 2017 it had dropped to 13! So whilst we seen it rise since then, it is still far lower than the peak in 1995. I'd love to say it's dropped due to our society improving, but most of the drop is due to lead being removed from fuel.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-27067615

colthe3rd · February 2022

bolloxbolder said:

rananegra said:

Long piece in The Athletic on this:

https://theathletic.com/3120032/2022/02/11/rise-football-crowd-trouble/

Includes some pushback on the Chief Constable who's head of Football-related stuff from others involved and a lot of interviews with people at Stoke City.

Behind a payroll so pointless posting

Wasn't pointless for me, thanks @rananegra

clive · February 2022

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

jimmymelrose · February 2022

Shared from BBC:Is violence programmed into your genes?

https://www.bbc.com/reel/playlist/a-fairer-world?vpid=p09syvq0&ocid=ww.social.link.email

YTS1978 · February 2022

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

clb74 · February 2022

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

ElfsborgAddick · February 2022

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

There was a Charlton fan around 7'1 and 25 stone leading a charge.

clb74 · February 2022

ElfsborgAddick said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

There was a Charlton fan around 7'1 and 25 stone leading a charge.

Not 4'¹10 and 18 stone?

Lincsaddick · February 2022

Grimsby, yes Grimsby fans were reportedly the first in the country to be forced to run a gauntlet of drug sniffer dogs as they got off the train after their recent game at Notts County .. 'several arrests were made for the possession of Class 1 drugs' .. this was reported in THE 'Times' but I haven't seen any mention on the Grimsby Telegraph' website ..
like many small cities/large towns in quite remote, poorer areas, drugs are a problem amongst the young .. this report covers all the Humberside area, Grimsby, Hull and the near by seaside resort of Hornsea and Bridlington ..

QUOTE 'Humberside Police say they are punching above their weight after taking more than 10kg of cocaine, thousands of ecstasy tablets and five tonnes of cannabis off the streets in just one year.

The new Road Crime Team and targeted raids have helped to catch dealers across the area.

1,773 seizures of illegal drugs were carried out by Humberside Police between April 2020 and March 2021, new Home Office figures show. UNQUOTE

killerandflash · February 2022

Going on in non league football as well, with Wealdstone fans causing major damage to the seating and the toilets (and racial abuse of 2 stewards)

https://www.barnetfc.com/barnet-fc-vs-wealdstone-fc-away-support

shine166 · February 2022

killerandflash said:

Going on in non league football as well, with Wealdstone fans causing major damage to the seating and the toilets (and racial abuse of 2 stewards)

https://www.barnetfc.com/barnet-fc-vs-wealdstone-fc-away-support

The link I posted a few back, has a video of a ru k at Dartford last week

YTS1978 · February 2022

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

Shrewsbury scored, they got on the pitch, some charlton got on the pitch, there was a surge towards the corner by charlton and the spray was used to stop fans getting at each. I wasn't there, but saw the videos on twitter.

shirty5 · February 2022

ElfsborgAddick said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

There was a Charlton fan around 7'1 and 25 stone leading a charge.

Does he command his 18 yard box. Need a keeper of his size who does that

DOUCHER · February 2022

I don't like to praise Millwall generally but fair play to them - in their new ground scheme they are providing an 800 seat auditorium where pre and post match fighting will be undertaken by those wanting to 'get involved'. Its hoped that it might cut down on a lot of bottle throwing, posturing and throat slashing type signals as there will be no line of stewards or police to hide behind. I think its a progressive move - a bit like legalising certain drugs maybe.

ElfsborgAddick · February 2022

shirty5 said:

ElfsborgAddick said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

There was a Charlton fan around 7'1 and 25 stone leading a charge.

Does he command his 18 yard box. Need a keeper of his size who does that

We need a keeper who can leave his goal line and be mobile.

Chippycafc · February 2022

killerandflash said:

Going on in non league football as well, with Wealdstone fans causing major damage to the seating and the toilets (and racial abuse of 2 stewards)

https://www.barnetfc.com/barnet-fc-vs-wealdstone-fc-away-support

Thats a real shame, nice stadium, went there a few seasons ago to see Ebbsfleet win 3-0, only gripe was you couldn't use the clubs facilities ie home bar, as the one allocated for away fans to use had a wedding reception in it, so had to use the bars near cannons park station.

Plus they don't do a match day programme, you have to download it.

Valleysarr · February 2022

YTS1978 said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

Shrewsbury scored, they got on the pitch, some charlton got on the pitch, there was a surge towards the corner by charlton and the spray was used to stop fans getting at each. I wasn't there, but saw the videos on twitter.

Caused by the Ginger Shrews fan who was then banned for life or 10 years or something!

Next year Charlton chants along the lines of where’s your Ginger mate … ?

SoundAsa£ · February 2022

ElfsborgAddick said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

There was a Charlton fan around 7'1 and 25 stone leading a charge.

And we all know who that is.😉

YTS1978 · February 2022

Valleysarr said:

YTS1978 said:

clb74 said:

YTS1978 said:

clive said:

Merseyside Police say the use of pepper spray towards Leeds fans at Everton on Saturday was "proportionate and necessary" during an incident where a man was arrested for assaulting an officer.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/60380518

I think the 1st recorded use of pepper spray inside a ground was againt our fans at the Shrewsbury playoff semi? Happy to be corrected. Way over the top.

Why were the police using pepper spray?

Shrewsbury scored, they got on the pitch, some charlton got on the pitch, there was a surge towards the corner by charlton and the spray was used to stop fans getting at each. I wasn't there, but saw the videos on twitter.

Caused by the Ginger Shrews fan who was then banned for life or 10 years or something!
Next year Charlton chants along the lines of where’s your Ginger mate … ?

That's right...haha! He was on the pitch giving it the "biggun" then someone clumped him! His Twitter went mad as he claimed to be a MMA or semi-pro boxer or something, but went down like a sack of shit on the pitch! Not his proudest moment...not that I would condone such violent behaviour from anyone, of course.

soapy_jones · February 2022

DOUCHER said:

I don't like to praise Millwall generally but fair play to them - in their new ground scheme they are providing an 800 seat auditorium where pre and post match fighting will be undertaken by those wanting to 'get involved'. Its hoped that it might cut down on a lot of bottle throwing, posturing and throat slashing type signals as there will be no line of stewards or police to hide behind. I think its a progressive move - a bit like legalising certain drugs maybe.

They really need to take this into the community with workshops available to all, leading to real FS qualifications for every gender, mental and physical ability.

Throat slashing simulation (Entry Level One).

Bowling down the road in a flat cap looking a twat (Pre Entry Level).

Baldybonce · February 2022

soapy_jones said:

DOUCHER said:

I don't like to praise Millwall generally but fair play to them - in their new ground scheme they are providing an 800 seat auditorium where pre and post match fighting will be undertaken by those wanting to 'get involved'. Its hoped that it might cut down on a lot of bottle throwing, posturing and throat slashing type signals as there will be no line of stewards or police to hide behind. I think its a progressive move - a bit like legalising certain drugs maybe.

They really need to take this into the community with workshops available to all, leading to real FS qualifications for every gender, mental and physical ability.

Throat slashing simulation (Entry Level One).

Bowling down the road in a flat cap looking a twat (Pre Entry Level).

I don't know if it's true or not but i was told they have a pebble put in one of their first pairs of shoes.

clive · September 2022

Arrests and reported incidents of disorder at football matches in England and Wales last season were at their highest level for eight years.

There were 2,198 football-related arrests, the highest number since the 2013-14 season, according to Home Office figures.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62989792

Solidgone · September 2022

Its not clear to me whether these figures included the England matches especially the Euro final.

KBslittlesis · September 2022

#cutshaveconsequences

shirty5 · September 2022

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:

QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans)

Lincsaddick · September 2022

shirty5 said:

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:
QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans)

at least we can beat Millwall at something .. copper on the radio blaming post lockdown frustration and increased drug use as major factors .. still not so bad as the seventies though

T_C_E · September 2022

shirty5 said:

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:
QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans for copyright infringements)

Lordflashheart · September 2022

Lincsaddick said:

shirty5 said:

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:
QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans)

at least we can beat Millwall at something .. copper on the radio blaming post lockdown frustration and increased drug use as major factors .. still not so bad as the seventies though

Millwall top for banning orders however, with 33

sam3110 · September 2022

Lordflashheart said:

Lincsaddick said:

shirty5 said:

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:
QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans)

at least we can beat Millwall at something .. copper on the radio blaming post lockdown frustration and increased drug use as major factors .. still not so bad as the seventies though

Millwall top for banning orders however, with 33

Millwall will quote our 16 as being higher than their 15 and try and claim the moral high ground though.

Also the 33 banning orders were West Ham in disguise and people being banned for not wearing Stone Island to a home game

Big_Bad_World · September 2022

sam3110 said:

Lordflashheart said:

Lincsaddick said:

shirty5 said:

The full breakdown of football arrests at London stadiums in the first half of the 2021/22 season can be seen below:
QPR, Loftus Road - 34 arrests (23 home fans)
West Ham, London Stadium - 29 arrests (17 home fans)
Chelsea, Stamford Bridge - 21 arrests (14 home fans)
England, Wembley - 19 arrests (6 England fans)
Charlton Athletic, The Valley - 16 arrests (6 home fans)
Tottenham Hotspurs, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium - 16 arrests (8 home fans)
Millwall, The Den - 15 arrests (6 home fans)
Arsenal, Emirates Stadium - 12 arrests (7 home fans)
Brentford, Brentford Community Stadium - 12 arrests (3 home fans)
Crystal Palace, Selhurst Park - 10 arrests (3 home fans)

at least we can beat Millwall at something .. copper on the radio blaming post lockdown frustration and increased drug use as major factors .. still not so bad as the seventies though

Millwall top for banning orders however, with 33

Millwall will quote our 16 as being higher than their 15 and try and claim the moral high ground though.

Also the 33 banning orders were West Ham in disguise and people being banned for not wearing Stone Island to a home game

The club absolutely will not. What a weird thing to say.

It does seem, however, that we are more proactive when it comes to issuing banning orders. Although that's probably just down to competency and having the required staffing levels to act accordingly.

Football arrests 'highest in years' & disorder on the rise - police

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