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Does Football have a gambling problem?

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  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    MStuartPerm said:
    To be honest apart from Betway who I know sponsor West Ham as I saw a picture just now. I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who anymore. 
    I used to boycott certain companies due to their choice of team to sponsor but now I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who as I rarely  watch any other football other than Charlton 
    I couldn’t tell you who have sponsored anyone of our opponents to date so far  this season. 

    Our opponents so far this season have been sponsored by:

    PovertyWager
    WongaPLUS
    CDBU
    Winningz
    KiddieBet
    Shark Bailiffs
    Brokelads
  • SuedeAdidas
    SuedeAdidas Posts: 7,731
    Gillingham sponsored by Greggs for the manager
  • MStuartPerm
    MStuartPerm Posts: 611
    Leuth said:
    MStuartPerm said:
    To be honest apart from Betway who I know sponsor West Ham as I saw a picture just now. I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who anymore. 
    I used to boycott certain companies due to their choice of team to sponsor but now I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who as I rarely  watch any other football other than Charlton 
    I couldn’t tell you who have sponsored anyone of our opponents to date so far  this season. 

    Our opponents so far this season have been sponsored by:

    PovertyWager
    WongaPLUS
    CDBU
    Winningz
    KiddieBet
    Shark Bailiffs
    Brokelads
    Never heard of any of them. I can guess what they do.
  • Gribbo
    Gribbo Posts: 8,480
    Leuth said:
    MStuartPerm said:
    To be honest apart from Betway who I know sponsor West Ham as I saw a picture just now. I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who anymore. 
    I used to boycott certain companies due to their choice of team to sponsor but now I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who as I rarely  watch any other football other than Charlton 
    I couldn’t tell you who have sponsored anyone of our opponents to date so far  this season. 

    Our opponents so far this season have been sponsored by:

    PovertyWager
    WongaPLUS
    CDBU
    Winningz
    KiddieBet
    Shark Bailiffs
    Brokelads
    There's another thread for Robot Wars discussions 
  • Stu_of_Kunming
    Stu_of_Kunming Posts: 17,116
    sam3110 said:
    I'll be interested to know how many people on here and in the UK in general have ever used the betting companies on the front of a lot of the shirts. 

    Hollywood Bets
    Spreadex Sports
    W88
    ManbetX
    SBOTOP
    Fun88
    Sportsbet.io
    Stake.com
    Betway

    Are the 9 companies currently sponsoring Premier League teams that will be affected.

    Of the lot, I think I've used Betway a couple of times, but the rest I haven't heard of save for being on the shirts
    I have a feeling Asia is the target audience.
  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,158
    It's about time. I've always felt so uncomfortable seeing betting sponsors on football shirts and I hated it when we had Betdaq. If your sponsor is something you can't put on a child's shirt then they shouldn't be your sponsor.
    There's also the fact that there's a clear link between gambling and the racist abuse players suffer online during and after matches. Not only is there a problem here, but players tend to get a lot of abuse from abroad when they do something that stops someone getting their win, and it's incredibly hard for us to police, meaning the it's on the social media companies, who do next to nothing. Obviously these companies will still advertise abroad and it won't stop abuse, but clubs making money off a system that funnels abuse towards their own players is crazy
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    Above all, gambling and fantasy football have ruined the online football discourse in ways I can only begin to express the soul-crushing banality of
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,312
    (Charlton Life mostly steers clear of that, somehow, which is a blessing)
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Its brilliant news that betting companies could soon no longer be allowed to sponser football teams in the

    SKYBET Football League 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️


    Action should start with you EFL drop skybet 
  • SELR_addicks
    SELR_addicks Posts: 15,442

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  • EricBanterna
    EricBanterna Posts: 1,740
    I bet this never happens 
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
    Garrymanilow said:
    It's about time. I've always felt so uncomfortable seeing betting sponsors on football shirts and I hated it when we had Betdaq. If your sponsor is something you can't put on a child's shirt then they shouldn't be your sponsor.
    There's also the fact that there's a clear link between gambling and the racist abuse players suffer online during and after matches. Not only is there a problem here, but players tend to get a lot of abuse from abroad when they do something that stops someone getting their win, and it's incredibly hard for us to police, meaning the it's on the social media companies, who do next to nothing. Obviously these companies will still advertise abroad and it won't stop abuse, but clubs making money off a system that funnels abuse towards their own players is crazy
    Is there ? 

    Be interested to see that report. 

    Can you link? 
  • Huskaris
    Huskaris Posts: 9,842
    100% yes. It goes hand in hand with sports. 

    It's like alcohol though, the vast majority can do it without any issues (I don't want to use the word "responsibly" as that really is inappropriate) but for those that it does effect, it consumes them. 
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,455
    MStuartPerm said:
    Leuth said:
    MStuartPerm said:
    To be honest apart from Betway who I know sponsor West Ham as I saw a picture just now. I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who anymore. 
    I used to boycott certain companies due to their choice of team to sponsor but now I couldn’t tell you who sponsors who as I rarely  watch any other football other than Charlton 
    I couldn’t tell you who have sponsored anyone of our opponents to date so far  this season. 

    Our opponents so far this season have been sponsored by:

    PovertyWager
    WongaPLUS
    CDBU
    Winningz
    KiddieBet
    Shark Bailiffs
    Brokelads
    Never heard of any of them. I can guess what they do.
    Are you serious??
  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,863
    I've been watching interviews of people who have serious gambling addictions.

    It's very sad and it ruin lives. 

    I don't think it is a problem that is easy for anyone to understand. They cannot stop but are too ashamed to openly admit the problem while it's occurring.

    There will always be counter arguments for everything but I do think the existance of gambling is more of a problem then a benefit for the world we live in.

    Obviously,  the concept of it will never just vanish, but it could gradually get reduced. The money could be spent on better things. Not just filling up rich peoples pockets. 

    I used to spend a proportion of my wages on betting.

    It all adds up. I probably overall chucked thousands away...and for what?

    I'm personally pleased to say I now have no fixation on gambling. It no longer drags me in at all 🤷

    I'm lucky that I used to lose on it quite often...so it made me give up early!

  • Wellred
    Wellred Posts: 1,118
    There has been time's I have watched our defense & thought they have got to be at it 

  • Dave2l
    Dave2l Posts: 8,863
    An industry that profits on people who have natural brain disorders.

    Perhaps there is a way to detect it and stop the problems before it erupts.

    Probably a bit far fetched to give everyone who has a betting app on their phone an mri scan but someone might have the answers!
  • Callumcafc
    Callumcafc Posts: 63,749

  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,203
    https://insidersport.com/2025/05/16/premier-league-clubs-betting-sponsor/
  • Hal1x
    Hal1x Posts: 4,265
    edited May 17
    Henry Irving said:
    https://insidersport.com/2025/05/16/premier-league-clubs-betting-sponsor/
    listened to Talksport yesterday, their whole output now seems to be geared only towards promoting sports betting- and their adverts are just for tools, vans and even more betting. I hope the Americanos resist the lure of the betting sponsorship- BETDAQ was enough.
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  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    I've been getting offers from gambling companies to sponsor my stuff on YouTube. I've resisted them over the years but nobody else is as interested as they are. I think the PL ban means they're looking at other places to get involved. We get the same amount of footballing eyeballs as Championship clubs so it makes sense. 

    It's such a headache because the money is huge to me, and could finance my work for a year and help me stop working 60-70 hour weeks. But on the flip side, the blowback could be really damaging. It's really easy to say "don't take their money, have principles!" or whatever, but far harder to have that perspective when it's your life and livelihood that's at play. 

  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,827
    Take the money Jimmy. 

    No one is gonna stop viewing just because sponsored by bet 365 
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    JiMMy 85 said:
    I've been getting offers from gambling companies to sponsor my stuff on YouTube. I've resisted them over the years but nobody else is as interested as they are. I think the PL ban means they're looking at other places to get involved. We get the same amount of footballing eyeballs as Championship clubs so it makes sense. 

    It's such a headache because the money is huge to me, and could finance my work for a year and help me stop working 60-70 hour weeks. But on the flip side, the blowback could be really damaging. It's really easy to say "don't take their money, have principles!" or whatever, but far harder to have that perspective when it's your life and livelihood that's at play. 

    Seems like an easy decision to make really.
  • clb74
    clb74 Posts: 10,824
    JiMMy 85 said:
    I've been getting offers from gambling companies to sponsor my stuff on YouTube. I've resisted them over the years but nobody else is as interested as they are. I think the PL ban means they're looking at other places to get involved. We get the same amount of footballing eyeballs as Championship clubs so it makes sense. 

    It's such a headache because the money is huge to me, and could finance my work for a year and help me stop working 60-70 hour weeks. But on the flip side, the blowback could be really damaging. It's really easy to say "don't take their money, have principles!" or whatever, but far harder to have that perspective when it's your life and livelihood that's at play. 

    Jimmy, would you have any input as to how they advertise on your site?
  • JiMMy 85
    JiMMy 85 Posts: 10,189
    Yes it would probably be my choice as to how we present the sponsor, within reason. 

    For Hello Fresh I get the manager to cook a meal and people think it’s funny and don’t care that it’s an advert. So we’d be aiming for something like that. Like Paddy Power. They’d be a great partner for us! 
  • aliwibble
    aliwibble Posts: 26,269
    I think the difference between Hello Fresh and a gambling co is that you'd need to be careful about checking the requirements for warnings associated with gambling advertisements, so you don't inadvertantly fall foul of those. Probably worth checking how the Not The Top 20 boys handle their betting show stuff, and any other content creators that get similar sponsorship, to see if it's something that'll work for you.

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