ECB’s “The Hundred”

Callumcafc said:

killerandflash said:

I was thinking that maybe the best way would have been to have a 2 phase Blast. Group matches played amongst the 18 counties, with the best 8 qualifying for the "Big Blast" competition - a tight 2 or 3 week format -  which can have coverage shared with the BBC and all the ECB hype. And maybe the chance for the 8 successful counties to "bid for" 2 players from the remaining counties or a list of overseas stars who agree to come over for the 3 weeks, but won't know which teams they'll play for.

That way you still have an elite 8 team competition, but it's democratic, and if Leics and Sussex qualify, while Yorkshire and Notts don't, well so be it.

I like this format suggestion too. 

No reason why we couldn’t have had an eight team league for 2021 of Kent, Somerset, Sussex, Hampshire, Notts, Yorkshire, Lancashire and Birmingham.

Each of the eight teams get to “loan” a full England international for a few weeks and also have a separate pool of 20 odd international stars - each team gets two more players from that pool. 

Each year the loans and the pool is reset so the ECB can put together a “draft day” where first picks go to the teams with the best group stage record (to reward better performance).

Think that would make for a very fun league while still incorporating the flashier elements of IPL/Big Bash/Hundred style franchise cricket.

This is interesting an interesting idea , the BBL is going to an overseas draft next year too 

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

I wasn't aware of this but await others' views on this. Why are they having to give away so many comps for the Hundred? As they are, maybe they won't make as much on ticket sales as predicted?

I guess the tv revenue is a key component - one of the only things I see as good about the Hundred is it is on terrestrial tv and it might attract a few newcomers. But I think the attendances are higher than they would be had it not been for covid restrictions depriving us of attending cricket/reduced attendances at games post lockdown

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

£1.2 billion broadcasting contract and that's without the other sponsors' contributions. Why didn't the ECB improve the Blast and then negotiate such a lucrative contract on behalf of the Counties? Because more of that money would have to go to the non Test venue Counties perhaps? 

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

I wasn't aware of this but await others' views on this. Why are they having to give away so many comps for the Hundred? As they are, maybe they won't make as much on ticket sales as predicted?

I guess the tv revenue is a key component - one of the only things I see as good about the Hundred is it is on terrestrial tv and it might attract a few newcomers. But I think the attendances are higher than they would be had it not been for covid restrictions depriving us of attending cricket/reduced attendances at games post lockdown

Comps are promotional. The idea being they'll result in more paying spectators in future. 

The TV revenue is one stream. Lucrative sponsorships from KP, Vitality, Masuri and others, over new, multi-season deals. 

I can't answer your suggestion that the crowds are higher because there are Covid restrictions, because I don't understand it. 

I guess you don't want to like it, and that's fair enough. No-one is forced to like it. And there are other formats for fussy fans. The thing is, it's started, it's started well, it will bring in new fans as well as significant extra revenue and it is very likely to result in more people joining the pathway into becoming cricketers. All of these are good fit the game, in my view. 

Addick Addict said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

£1.2 billion broadcasting contract and that's without the other sponsors' contributions. Why didn't the ECB improve the Blast and then negotiate such a lucrative contract on behalf of the Counties? Because more of that money would have to go to the non Test venue Counties perhaps? 

£40m a year of that is related to the Hundred, that's the value to Broadcasters, they weren't interested in paying for more county cricket 

Rothko said:

The comps thing is a bit of a red herring, part of the ticketing strategy was to give tickets to local youth groups and those involved in kids cricket to come along. 

A lot of comps to sales ratio - one game at the Oval was over 6,000 comps to 2,500 sales

Chizz said:

I can't answer your suggestion that the crowds are higher because there are Covid restrictions, because I don't understand it.



Because of PREVIOUS covid restrictions, people haven't been able to go to live sport for over a year. Even recent games since lockdown have been so restricted. I know people who wouldn't have bothered but for not being to live sport for so long plus the recent good weather

Addick Addict said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

I wasn't aware of this but await others' views on this. Why are they having to give away so many comps for the Hundred? As they are, maybe they won't make as much on ticket sales as predicted?

I guess the tv revenue is a key component - one of the only things I see as good about the Hundred is it is on terrestrial tv and it might attract a few newcomers. But I think the attendances are higher than they would be had it not been for covid restrictions depriving us of attending cricket/reduced attendances at games post lockdown

Comps are promotional. The idea being they'll result in more paying spectators in future. 

The TV revenue is one stream. Lucrative sponsorships from KP, Vitality, Masuri and others, over new, multi-season deals. 

I can't answer your suggestion that the crowds are higher because there are Covid restrictions, because I don't understand it. 

I guess you don't want to like it, and that's fair enough. No-one is forced to like it. And there are other formats for fussy fans. The thing is, it's started, it's started well, it will bring in new fans as well as significant extra revenue and it is very likely to result in more people joining the pathway into becoming cricketers. All of these are good fit the game, in my view. 

What precisely in the Hundred will inspire kids to play cricket that is so different from the Blast - apart from it being on free to watch TV?

And having seen the Hundred on TV, how and where do youngsters learn and play cricket this week, next week and the week after through to the end of the summer?

Apart from the blanket newsmedia coverage, the free-to-air TV, the several hours a day coverage of live and highlights on sky, the main reason some kids might take it up will be that it's the first chance many kids will have had to see and be inspired by some of the world's best cricketers, live. 

As had been pointed out, there have been thousands of free tickets given to kids. Significant numbers, over and above those that might be given free to children to watch county cricket. 

I would imagine that the first place parents of newly-inspired kids would look to find out how and where to get them games would be the ECB website, where they'll find out about the All Stars and the Dominos, and how to enjoy courses being run all over the country. 

I'm pretty sure all of this stuff will have been thoroughly planned out in the ECB's business plan, and considered by the counties when they voted for it. 

Chizz said:

Addick Addict said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

PrincessFiona said:

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

Chizz said:

Cafc43v3r said:

It's amazing, espically on twitter, the cross over of people that are so pro the hundred and were anti the super league.

Of course we need to preserve the structure and need the likes of Burnley in the premier league but Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire well they can all fox trot Oscar because no one carers about them! 

Kent, Somerset and Derbyshire will make millions of pounds out of The Hundred in the same way that Burnley wouldn't have, from the Super League. 

How/why? Currently losing on tickets sales for the 1 day cup?

As I understand it, counties will receive £1.3m a year from the ECB as a direct compensation linked to The Hundred. 

Kent's last full-year income was a £4.77m on which they showed a deficit of over £217k. So, in those terms, The Hundred may well be regarded as the single source of income that prevents Kent CCC (and perhaps others) from slipping into significant debt. 

I wasn't aware of this but await others' views on this. Why are they having to give away so many comps for the Hundred? As they are, maybe they won't make as much on ticket sales as predicted?

I guess the tv revenue is a key component - one of the only things I see as good about the Hundred is it is on terrestrial tv and it might attract a few newcomers. But I think the attendances are higher than they would be had it not been for covid restrictions depriving us of attending cricket/reduced attendances at games post lockdown

Comps are promotional. The idea being they'll result in more paying spectators in future. 

The TV revenue is one stream. Lucrative sponsorships from KP, Vitality, Masuri and others, over new, multi-season deals. 

I can't answer your suggestion that the crowds are higher because there are Covid restrictions, because I don't understand it. 

I guess you don't want to like it, and that's fair enough. No-one is forced to like it. And there are other formats for fussy fans. The thing is, it's started, it's started well, it will bring in new fans as well as significant extra revenue and it is very likely to result in more people joining the pathway into becoming cricketers. All of these are good fit the game, in my view. 

What precisely in the Hundred will inspire kids to play cricket that is so different from the Blast - apart from it being on free to watch TV?

And having seen the Hundred on TV, how and where do youngsters learn and play cricket this week, next week and the week after through to the end of the summer?

Apart from the blanket newsmedia coverage, the free-to-air TV, the several hours a day coverage of live and highlights on sky, the main reason some kids might take it up will be that it's the first chance many kids will have had to see and be inspired by some of the world's best cricketers, live. 

As had been pointed out, there have been thousands of free tickets given to kids. Significant numbers, over and above those that might be given free to children to watch county cricket. 

I would imagine that the first place parents of newly-inspired kids would look to find out how and where to get them games would be the ECB website, where they'll find out about the All Stars and the Dominos, and how to enjoy courses being run all over the country. 

I'm pretty sure all of this stuff will have been thoroughly planned out in the ECB's business plan, and considered by the counties when they voted for it. 

Why couldn't the ECB have utilised those resources to support the Blast instead?

Clearly you've looked on the ECB site for what is available to kids but don't realise that the All Stars and Dynamos (as opposed to Dominos which is a game using tiles or a pizza chain) courses ran for up to four months. These courses are organised by clubs through the use of coaches and volunteers giving up their time and that those courses and they have finished now - as has school cricket? Which is precisely why it is being played at the wrong time for engaging those kids to play and learn about the game. I have no doubt that many of those kids will now, with training already having started for many, turn to playing football.

Is this commentator calling him Jimmy Bairstow or is it a strong NZ accent?