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Wayne Rooney's Derby County - not any more (p41)
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Serious point of order.
If the majority of the 72 have taken these monitored loans/grants can't they vote to waiver embargos?0 -
Not excusing the disgraceful way Derby have fiddled the system, but to be fair this is the problem caused by specific EFL rule restricting the squad number BUT including players who shouldn't actually be included by any "realistic" criteria.
We were similarly stuffed a year ago when our allowed squad size was restricted and the 23 included academy players over 18 who had played in makeshift EFL Cup and FA Cup sides, and further meant that if we gave a 19 year old a game, he'd be part of the 23 but someone younger like Charlie Barker wouldn't be
Derby shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, because we weren't, but I don't think the rules as it stands is entirely right.
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Remember when Derby played Chorley in the FA Cup and there whole squad and u23s had to isolate?killerandflash said:Not excusing the disgraceful way Derby have fiddled the system, but to be fair this is the problem caused by specific EFL rule restricting the squad number BUT including players who shouldn't actually be included by any "realistic" criteria.
We were similarly stuffed a year ago when our allowed squad size was restricted and the 23 included academy players over 18 who had played in makeshift EFL Cup and FA Cup sides, and further meant that if we gave a 19 year old a game, he'd be part of the 23 but someone younger like Charlie Barker wouldn't be
Derby shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, because we weren't, but I don't think the rules as it stands is entirely right.
Well all those under 18s now count as "players" due having played in that game. If they didn't have them they would be able to sign a few free agents now.
I wonder what a club will do in that situation next time?3 -
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I wonder what the EFL would judge as a fair wage for a Championship club ?
Also - only a years contract. I wonder how many players will go for that.0 -
So the cheats have been bitten in the arse by a loop hole…..goodCafc43v3r said:
Remember when Derby played Chorley in the FA Cup and there whole squad and u23s had to isolate?killerandflash said:Not excusing the disgraceful way Derby have fiddled the system, but to be fair this is the problem caused by specific EFL rule restricting the squad number BUT including players who shouldn't actually be included by any "realistic" criteria.
We were similarly stuffed a year ago when our allowed squad size was restricted and the 23 included academy players over 18 who had played in makeshift EFL Cup and FA Cup sides, and further meant that if we gave a 19 year old a game, he'd be part of the 23 but someone younger like Charlie Barker wouldn't be
Derby shouldn't be allowed to get away with it, because we weren't, but I don't think the rules as it stands is entirely right.
Well all those under 18s now count as "players" due having played in that game. If they didn't have them they would be able to sign a few free agents now.
I wonder what a club will do in that situation next time?2 -
No they havent. Read the BBC article, and surprise, the EFL have given them an exception
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If it wasn't Derby I would think it was a good decision.1
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I wonder what other clubs subject to the embargo thinkIdleHans said:No they havent. Read the BBC article, and surprise, the EFL have given them an exception0 -
In this case i think its good the efl have done that, with the provisions in place, the wage restrictions and 1 years contracts.IdleHans said:No they havent. Read the BBC article, and surprise, the EFL have given them an exception
The squad limit was harsh on Derby, at least they played their FA Cup game, there was another game i remember were a team was hit with covid and pulled out, Derby could have done the same wouldnt have played the under 18 team and wouldnt have been in this position.
But because they actually played the game it put them in this position, so as i say think efl have shown a bit of common sense with this one actually.5 -
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if anyone has had to include u18s previously they will surely be furious?PrincessFiona said:
I wonder what other clubs subject to the embargo thinkIdleHans said:No they havent. Read the BBC article, and surprise, the EFL have given them an exception0 -
Blasphemy! Havent you got stuff to do, Paulie?(actually I am inclined to agree with you, but such a shame it's Derby)Hope its all going well for you today0
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Still got an hour to i get the keys lol, sat here trying to pass the time 🤣🤣IdleHans said:Blasphemy! Havent you got stuff to do, Paulie?(actually I am inclined to agree with you, but such a shame it's Derby)Hope its all going well for you today0 -
IdleHans said:No they havent. Read the BBC article, and surprise, the EFL have given them an exception
Just a shame that was a reason we werent allowed to add to our squad this time last year.Cafc43v3r said:If it wasn't Derby I would think it was a good decision.
I cant remember how many first team players we had, but presume it was more than nine, hence the difference in decision?0 -
Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!19 -
That's exactly why you would sign Ravel, it will be a bloody good few hours.ForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!10 -
I doubt he comes cheap, so presume the limit on spending is actually quite high.ForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!0 -
Or Rooney is giving him free access to his 'stash'.0
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Morrison's into granny porn?Addickted said:Or Rooney is giving him free access to his 'stash'.12 -
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I don’t get your point here. Surely the example given is a no brainier 😂ForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!7 -
The problem would be explaining to the wife why theres not a lot of shoppingForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!1 -
Interesting that the other 2 are out of contract players who were there last season0
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Managers will always want to take the gamble, especially in Derby's position when they are skint.ForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!
If he gets his head down and plays to his ability, then he'll be one of the best players in the division. Obviously that's a very big 'if' though.1 -
Yeah I think its too big an "if" now sadly... But we've all made mistakes in our lives that we all probably look back on and regretChris_from_Sidcup said:
Managers will always want to take the gamble, especially in Derby's position when they are skint.ForeverAddickted said:Honestly, why would you sign Ravel Morrison if you're limited as to who you can buy?
Its like being told you have £1,000 left to spend on food for a year but you spend £900 on a hooker for a few hours!!
If he gets his head down and plays to his ability, then he'll be one of the best players in the division. Obviously that's a very big 'if' though.
Just hope that Rooney (someone he'd have been with @ Man Utd) can be the help that he needs.
He'd have scared the Italians shitless had he reached his potential - Will never forget that West Ham goal @ Spurs0 -
Oh dear. What a shame17
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I thinks the least of his problems when he gets home tonight 👀👀14
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What's he done now?Cafc43v3r said:I thinks the least of his problems when he gets home tonight 👀👀0
