Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)
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Bowyer got it so wrong with McGeady .... class player at this levelkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?4 - 
            
It’s 18k.RonnieMoore said:
He on 32k a weekMaccn05 said:
With the new multi billionaire owner? I can’t see that unless it’s getting rid of big earners like McGeady - he’s apparently on £20k a week stillcovered_end_junior said:Lee Johnson’s said Sunderland will likely have a reduced budget next season.0 - 
            
Makes zero difference to anything.Valley27000 said:Window opens in June.1 - 
            
In fairness Bowyer never had McGeady at this level.RonnieMoore said:
Bowyer got it so wrong with McGeady .... class player at this levelkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?12 - 
            Have the finalised SCMP budget limits been confirmed yet?
Last I read the wage bill must be no more than 60% of the Clubs turnover.1 - 
            
That is correct, however there are no restrictions on what you can spend on transfer fees. However the definition of turnover is much more liberal than the championship and Premier league.Addickted said:Have the finalised SCMP budget limits been confirmed yet?
Last I read the wage bill must be no more than 60% of the Clubs turnover.Under the SCMP rules, the definition of 'Turnover' is particularly important as Turnover is used to determine the maximum wage-spend. Within a traditional accounting perspective, there are usually only three elements of turnover:
- Match-day Income
 - Commercial Income (such as sponsorship)
 - TV revenue (and any 'merit payments' based on league position)
 
However the Football League use a is broader definition of Turnover. Crucially, the FL Turnover figure includes donations from the owners to the club and injections of equity. Loans from club owners are understandably not included in the Turnover figure as these would result in growing club debts. up club debts. In League 1 and League 2, a wealthy owner can therefore fund the club spending in a way that is not permitted in other divisions. Manchester City and Leicester for example seem set for punishment for their excessive losses (from UEFA and the Championship respectively) despite the fact that the owners have injected hard cash into the club to finance the spending
Assuming, post salary cap, it's defaulted to the status quo.
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            Valley27000 said:Window opens in June.
Should be open now, if you are letting someone in where you live.1 - 
            
18k,..20k,..32k???... Lets face it whatever it is,..it is too much..imoCovered_End_Lad said:
It’s 18k.RonnieMoore said:
He on 32k a weekMaccn05 said:
With the new multi billionaire owner? I can’t see that unless it’s getting rid of big earners like McGeady - he’s apparently on £20k a week stillcovered_end_junior said:Lee Johnson’s said Sunderland will likely have a reduced budget next season.
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            Johnnysummers5 said:Valley27000 said:Window opens in June.
Should be open now, if you are letting someone in where you live.
Surely the door’s easier?0 - 
            
And? You don’t have to wait until the window opens to sign players, they just can’t play until then.Valley27000 said:Window opens in June.3 - 
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Maybe it's just me, but i didn't think he was good enough in our league to suggest he will excel at championship level. He was ok, and the talent is there but you wouldn't class him as particularly special.Scoham said:Just shared this on the Millar thread, relevant here too. Means we’ll need 2 ideally 3 new wingers.
Looks certain that he’s not coming back.
I’m not subscribed so can’t see the full article but it says Liverpool are receiving a lot of interest from Championship clubs:
https://theathletic.com/2588533
The 21-year-old Canada international’s parent club have already received a significant number of enquiries about him from sides in the second tier.
He'll definitely need to improve his consistency and decision making if he's stepping up a league.
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Stepping up a league as part of his football schooling will be designed to do exactly that. Improve his consistency and decision making.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Maybe it's just me, but i didn't think he was good enough in our league to suggest he will excel at championship level. He was ok, and the talent is there but you wouldn't class him as particularly special.Scoham said:Just shared this on the Millar thread, relevant here too. Means we’ll need 2 ideally 3 new wingers.
Looks certain that he’s not coming back.
I’m not subscribed so can’t see the full article but it says Liverpool are receiving a lot of interest from Championship clubs:
https://theathletic.com/2588533
The 21-year-old Canada international’s parent club have already received a significant number of enquiries about him from sides in the second tier.
He'll definitely need to improve his consistency and decision making if he's stepping up a league.1 - 
            Classic Charlton Life, one page where people are convinced of one player being on three different wages!1
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            I've just read 100 comments and not one related to a Charlton rumour. Fml9
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            This is all hotting up nicely...1
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            Tucker from Gillingham linked with Peterborough and Hull today, however the source is Nixon.1
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I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?4 - 
            
As much chance as me finding El Dorado or Shangri-La.SoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?5 - 
            
Not at his age, he’s 35.SoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?2 - 
            
That's like me looking to leave my wife for a Swedish supermodelSoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?27 - 
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No doubting his ability but he did SFA at Wembley.Scoham said:
In fairness Bowyer never had McGeady at this level.RonnieMoore said:
Bowyer got it so wrong with McGeady .... class player at this levelkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?0 - 
            
He can, League one rules allow an owner to put in whatever they like as equity it just cannot be a loan(I.e adding to club debt).SoundAsa£ said:
Very very important matter.Addickted said:Have the finalised SCMP budget limits been confirmed yet?
Last I read the wage bill must be no more than 60% of the Clubs turnover.
Basically, it means that Thomas cannot throw as much at the transfer market as he may wish!
So technically if he wanted to he could throw a hundred million at it and still not break the rules if he wanted.6 - 
            
He was playing with pain injections the whole time so no surpriseSoundAsa£ said:
No doubting his ability but he did SFA at Wembley.Scoham said:
In fairness Bowyer never had McGeady at this level.RonnieMoore said:
Bowyer got it so wrong with McGeady .... class player at this levelkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?1 - 
            
Mmmmm......that’s assuming he is prepared to do that, which if I may say so, may not be the case.Covered_End_Lad said:
He can, League one rules allow an owner to put in whatever they like as equity it just cannot be a loan(I.e adding to club debt).SoundAsa£ said:
Very very important matter.Addickted said:Have the finalised SCMP budget limits been confirmed yet?
Last I read the wage bill must be no more than 60% of the Clubs turnover.
Basically, it means that Thomas cannot throw as much at the transfer market as he may wish!
So technically if he wanted to he could throw a hundred million at it and still not break the rules if he wanted.
Let’s wait and see?0 - 
            
I think I guilded the lily a bit there.Cafc43v3r said:
That's like me looking to leave my wife for a Swedish supermodelSoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?
I think he will be looking for a Championship club and “if lucky“ a top one.....his age is of course against him, but he may pick up a years contract somewhere.0 - 
            
You maybe right but I think he will stay at Sunderland on reduced terms.SoundAsa£ said:
I think I guilded the lily a bit there.Cafc43v3r said:
That's like me looking to leave my wife for a Swedish supermodelSoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?
I think he will be looking for a Championship club and “if lucky“ a top one.....his age is of course against him, but he may pick up a years contract somewhere.0 - 
            
I think he will stay at the SOL.Cafc43v3r said:
You maybe right but I think he will stay at Sunderland on reduced terms.SoundAsa£ said:
I think I guilded the lily a bit there.Cafc43v3r said:
That's like me looking to leave my wife for a Swedish supermodelSoundAsa£ said:
I think McGeady will be looking to move on and be looking for a top Championship club.Maccn05 said:
Based on 19-20 zero for Chuks, he was so useless I questioned whether McGeady had a twin brother that they sent to us insteadkillerandflash said:Not exactly a long term signing, but how many goals would McGeady create for Stockley or Chuks if you play him in the right position?
I think he will be looking for a Championship club and “if lucky“ a top one.....his age is of course against him, but he may pick up a years contract somewhere.
He transformed Sunderland this season and it seems he is settled in the area. He is an outstanding L1 player.
He played for us in the Championship and was good without being outstanding. I suspect if his shot against Birmingham had crept in rather than hit the post he would have been more fondly remembered
Also lets remember that he played after lockdown and lived away from his family for a couple of months . He could have refused to return and been paid by the Mackems.
For that reason I remember him fondly and wish him well (apart from when he plays us).7 - 
            
It would be worth spending the money on upwardly mobile young players this year as a total re-build next year would not be possible.SoundAsa£ said:
Mmmmm......that’s assuming he is prepared to do that, which if I may say so, may not be the case.Covered_End_Lad said:
He can, League one rules allow an owner to put in whatever they like as equity it just cannot be a loan(I.e adding to club debt).SoundAsa£ said:
Very very important matter.Addickted said:Have the finalised SCMP budget limits been confirmed yet?
Last I read the wage bill must be no more than 60% of the Clubs turnover.
Basically, it means that Thomas cannot throw as much at the transfer market as he may wish!
So technically if he wanted to he could throw a hundred million at it and still not break the rules if he wanted.
Let’s wait and see?0 - 
            If McGeady is going to stay at Sunderland, why would he waive his contract extension which apparently was going to be activated when playing yesterday.0
 










