Rumours Rumours - Summer 2021 edition (Deadline Day from p814)

AndyG said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

AndyG said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafc4life said:

Would be a shame to lose Chuks and especially to them mutants

I honestly can't see it happening but if our top scorer decided to leave us to sign for an absolute basket case of a club then it wouldn't exactly be a positive sign for our promotion hopes next season. 

I actually think the opposite. If we are letting him leave then maybe we expect to sign better 

He’s out of contract. We can’t stop him leaving. 

Have we offered him a new contract ?

As far as I’m aware yes.

LargeAddick said:

Cafc43v3r said:

LargeAddick said:

Cafc43v3r said:

Aneke is not going to Sheffield Wednesday 

what's he going to do then?

Firstly Wednesday are under a transfer embargo and secondly he hasn't signed the contract we offered him, yet, because he wants another shot at the championship.

Of course hypothetically he could go there if he doesn't get a championship offer and we say "sorry to late". 

so 'Aneke is not going to Sheffield Wednesday' which is a definitive statement actually means he could maybe, possibly go to Sheffield Wednesday.

OK I'll rephrase that then.  He isn't leaving us to go to Wednesday.  He may, at some unspecified date, in the future, end up there. 

In the same way we might sign Haaland. 

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

AndyG said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

AndyG said:

ShootersHillGuru said:

AndyG said:

Chris_from_Sidcup said:

cafc4life said:

Would be a shame to lose Chuks and especially to them mutants

I honestly can't see it happening but if our top scorer decided to leave us to sign for an absolute basket case of a club then it wouldn't exactly be a positive sign for our promotion hopes next season. 

I actually think the opposite. If we are letting him leave then maybe we expect to sign better 

He’s out of contract. We can’t stop him leaving. 

Have we offered him a new contract ?

As far as I’m aware yes.

Then if he has and IF the rumour is correct that he is talking to Sheffield Wednesday you would need to question the blokes sanity ! why on earth would a player choose them over us ? it would be plain stupid unless there were geographical reasons as in the player is already based near there which Chucks isnt. Apart from the threat of not being paid on time what have they got to offer him ?

If he were to go there after we'd offered him a contract, I'd presume they'd offered more money.

sammy391 said:

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

The players seemingly already know!

This does strike me as odd. Even if you’re still negotiating contracts with a few it makes no difference to announce the players that have been released 

ElliotCAFC said:

sammy391 said:

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

The players seemingly already know!

This does strike me as odd. Even if you’re still negotiating contracts with a few it makes no difference to announce the players that have been released 

Either the Comms team are sitting around with the list not bothering to post it in social media because they enjoy getting hassled by fans or there is a reason Adkins, Roddy, Gallen and Sandgaard haven't given the go ahead to release for a reason.

I strongly suspect the latter.

If player A has been offered a new deal but a lower wage but has said they want to stay at a slightly higher than offered wage then Nigel might be happy with that but Roddy and Thomas need to sign it off.

If a loan player has been offered a deal and he wants to come but his current club, whose CEO is a notorious negotiator, wants more money then that too has to be signed off by Thomas.

I'm speculating but the club have said the protocol is to make one statement, not piecemeal leaks.

4 new pages? Any rumours before I bother?

Dazzler21 said:

4 new pages? Any rumours before I bother?

Don't be daft. None to be read on this thread.

Henry Irving said:

ElliotCAFC said:

sammy391 said:

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

The players seemingly already know!

This does strike me as odd. Even if you’re still negotiating contracts with a few it makes no difference to announce the players that have been released 

Either the Comms team are sitting around with the list not bothering to post it in social media because they enjoy getting hassled by fans or there is a reason Adkins, Roddy, Gallen and Sandgaard haven't given the go ahead to release for a reason.

I strongly suspect the latter.

If player A has been offered a new deal but a lower wage but has said they want to stay at a slightly higher than offered wage then Nigel might be happy with that but Roddy and Thomas need to sign it off.

If a loan player has been offered a deal and he wants to come but his current club, whose CEO is a notorious negotiator, wants more money then that too has to be signed off by Thomas.

I'm speculating but the club have said the protocol is to make one statement, not piecemeal leaks.

I don’t believe the permutations you’ve suggested would impact a released and retained list. It’s a very simple page highlighting who’s been offered a new deal and who hasn’t - ongoing negotiations have no bearing on it’s release, unless we operate completely differently to the other clubs in England.

LargeAddick said:

Henry Irving said:

ElliotCAFC said:

sammy391 said:

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

The players seemingly already know!

This does strike me as odd. Even if you’re still negotiating contracts with a few it makes no difference to announce the players that have been released 

Either the Comms team are sitting around with the list not bothering to post it in social media because they enjoy getting hassled by fans or there is a reason Adkins, Roddy, Gallen and Sandgaard haven't given the go ahead to release for a reason.

I strongly suspect the latter.

If player A has been offered a new deal but a lower wage but has said they want to stay at a slightly higher than offered wage then Nigel might be happy with that but Roddy and Thomas need to sign it off.

If a loan player has been offered a deal and he wants to come but his current club, whose CEO is a notorious negotiator, wants more money then that too has to be signed off by Thomas.

I'm speculating but the club have said the protocol is to make one statement, not piecemeal leaks.

all quite reasonable but don't they normally say x,y,z have been released and a,b,c have been offered new deals. Then in a few weeks we hear whether or not a,b,c have accepted those deals by either signing or not? Also, a loan player wouldn't be part of our retained list, we'd either sign him during this window as you would any signing or not.

Agreed/

At least it would stop the moaning that we've heard nowt - at least for a week or so.

For those of us that would like to keep Aneke, it is probably good news that the only club specifically mentioned so far is Wednesday.  A club that has a job paying its players and is in the same division as us.

ElliotCAFC said:

Henry Irving said:

ElliotCAFC said:

sammy391 said:

How have we not had our retained and released list yet! 

The players seemingly already know!

This does strike me as odd. Even if you’re still negotiating contracts with a few it makes no difference to announce the players that have been released 

Either the Comms team are sitting around with the list not bothering to post it in social media because they enjoy getting hassled by fans or there is a reason Adkins, Roddy, Gallen and Sandgaard haven't given the go ahead to release for a reason.

I strongly suspect the latter.

If player A has been offered a new deal but a lower wage but has said they want to stay at a slightly higher than offered wage then Nigel might be happy with that but Roddy and Thomas need to sign it off.

If a loan player has been offered a deal and he wants to come but his current club, whose CEO is a notorious negotiator, wants more money then that too has to be signed off by Thomas.

I'm speculating but the club have said the protocol is to make one statement, not piecemeal leaks.

Nobody has suggested the club is sitting on the list.

To make myself clear, I’m not bothered about seeing it, I just find it very odd that the club would shoot themselves in the foot by setting a deadline of Friday and not meet it.

I don’t believe the permutations you’ve suggested would impact a released and retained list. It’s a very simple page highlighting who’s been offered a new deal and who hasn’t - ongoing negotiations have no bearing on it’s release, unless we operate completely differently to the other clubs in England.

I thought they said the list would be this Friday and people then missinterpreted to last Friday, may be wrong.