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FA Cup 20/21
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Gary Linekar is loving it!0
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Helping yourself to medals - surely you'd take a couple just for a laugh?4
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As many of you know my next door neighbour works for Leicester City as a coach and sports scienctist.
He is a nice geezer and tells me how well the club is run and how the owner is just a guy that wants to bring success but is very unassuming.
I think we saw tonight how much he means to players and supporters alike.
I think our Thomas may well be similar.
Congratulations Leicester, you are a club that shows the greedy bastard's up.
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“And with a loss in the Champion’s League Final, Chelsea’s failure will be complete.”8 -
An accidental handball incident is only called handball if it occurs immediately prior to a goal being scored. The ball hitting a hand in the middle of the pitch doesn't fall into that category. Both decisions were correct according the rules as they currently stand. 1-0 was the right result.Stig said:
So that's 0-0 then.Callumcafc said:
Agree to disagree. I think it's madness to let illegitimate goals stand and rob a team of a trophy like that.Stig said:
I'm well happy with the result and the VAR decision was technically right. But there's two reasons for my why VAR is bad in such circumstances. 1. The fans had celebrated what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal. And the reason it would appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal... 2. Nobody could have perceived that being off side in real time. We have taken decisions to a level that are beyond human perception. It's football, not bloody playstation.Callumcafc said:That's exactly what VAR is there for. Brilliant. Throws the "kills the drama" argument out the window too.
And another thing, if that goal was ruled out because of an imperceptible rule infringement, why wasn't the first goal ruled out for handball?
I'm glad Chelsea lost and I'm glad Leicester won, but it shouldn't have been like that.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/handball-rules-updated-ifab-2020-21-season/1183navehh4tq12x9s126y7mr9A statement from the IFAB reads: “‘Accidental’ handball by an attacking player (or team-mate) is only penalised if it occurs ‘immediately’ before a goal or clear goal-scoring opportunity.
“If an attacking player accidentally touches the ball with their hand or arm and the ball then goes to another attacking player and the attacking team immediately scores, this is a handball offence.
“It is not an offence if, after an accidental handball, the ball travels some distance (pass or dribble) and/or there are several passes before the goal or goal-scoring opportunity.”
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Hahaha that VAR decision was bloody brilliant!
Absolutely delighted for Leicester. The team spirit they have is as good as it gets.
The last few years for them has been an amazing story. Shows just what you can do when you back your manager(s)...unlike another owner/chairman I can think of...
Proper choker seeing the Chairman's son out on the pitch at the end.
Football 1 Money 0
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Would love Rodgers at Spurs but there is fuck all chance of that happening with Levy's wallet.Chris_from_Sidcup said:
Rodgers loves it at Leicester, has a good team, a great owner and might qualify for the CL. Really can't see him leaving yet.NapaAddick said:So how much will Arsenal offer Rodgers to move there once they fire Arteta? Or Tottenham? You just know big offers are coming.
I know he's ambitious but the Leicester owners are more ambitious than Tottenham Hotspur Property Investment FC.3 -
Well done Leicester great stuff,beautiful goal & an absolute stonker of a save from Kasper,oh n well played VAR...😂😂😂2
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Beautiful , I love VAR fuck off Chelsea1
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Great when you have a FA Cup victory that means something, a day that the club and especially the fans will remember forever.
So far this century Arsenal have 7, Chelsea have 6, Liverpool 2, United 2, City 2 but it's the fans of Pompey, Wigan and Leicester who'll really treasure the wins17 - Sponsored links:
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I'd be really fed up if I was Tammy Abraham, seeing Werner being picked for game after game and delivering nothing5
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So pleased for Leicester and their owner after the loss of his father. Great when one of the big teams loses to a club that is properly run.
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Thanks for telling us the 'rules' on how VAR is used. Now let's have a look at the laws of the game:Callumcafc said:
An accidental handball incident is only called handball if it occurs immediately prior to a goal being scored. The ball hitting a hand in the middle of the pitch doesn't fall into that category. Both decisions were correct according the rules as they currently stand. 1-0 was the right result.Stig said:
So that's 0-0 then.Callumcafc said:
Agree to disagree. I think it's madness to let illegitimate goals stand and rob a team of a trophy like that.Stig said:
I'm well happy with the result and the VAR decision was technically right. But there's two reasons for my why VAR is bad in such circumstances. 1. The fans had celebrated what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal. And the reason it would appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal... 2. Nobody could have perceived that being off side in real time. We have taken decisions to a level that are beyond human perception. It's football, not bloody playstation.Callumcafc said:That's exactly what VAR is there for. Brilliant. Throws the "kills the drama" argument out the window too.
And another thing, if that goal was ruled out because of an imperceptible rule infringement, why wasn't the first goal ruled out for handball?
I'm glad Chelsea lost and I'm glad Leicester won, but it shouldn't have been like that.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/handball-rules-updated-ifab-2020-21-season/1183navehh4tq12x9s126y7mr9A statement from the IFAB reads: “‘Accidental’ handball by an attacking player (or team-mate) is only penalised if it occurs ‘immediately’ before a goal or clear goal-scoring opportunity.
“If an attacking player accidentally touches the ball with their hand or arm and the ball then goes to another attacking player and the attacking team immediately scores, this is a handball offence.
“It is not an offence if, after an accidental handball, the ball travels some distance (pass or dribble) and/or there are several passes before the goal or goal-scoring opportunity.”
"A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:- a handball offence (except for the goalkeeper within their penalty area)
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Pleased for them but they’re no bigger than us as a club. If only Murray hadn’t gone with his ego and appointed that clown Dowie, that could be us.2
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Me too but got nowhere near the wealth of Leicester's ownership. TS is a millionaire and Leicester's lot multi billionaires.ForeverAddickted said:
Great owners as well... Would be delighted if Thomas turned out to be like the Thai family that run LeicesterNapaAddick said:Congrats to Leicester, who have proven they are the best run club in England. With a top 4 finish also likely this season they have proven 2015-16 was no fluke. They are a template for any lower league club to show how to rise to the top. And with one of the most beautiful Academies in England, they will be attracting all sorts of talent for years to come.3 -
Quite a lot of other things would probably have had to of happened too!DaveMehmet said:Pleased for them but they’re no bigger than us as a club. If only Murray hadn’t gone with his ego and appointed that clown Dowie, that could be us.2 -
Maybe not the premier league but we we should have been in the final the year we played Middlesbroughse9addick said:
Quite a lot of other things would probably have had to of happened too!DaveMehmet said:Pleased for them but they’re no bigger than us as a club. If only Murray hadn’t gone with his ego and appointed that clown Dowie, that could be us.0 -
Agreed. If it had been the other way round I'd be seething had Leicester had a goal ruled out like that as would most the country I reckon.Stig said:
I'm well happy with the result and the VAR decision was technically right. But there's two reasons for my why VAR is bad in such circumstances. 1. The fans had celebrated what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal. And the reason it would appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal... 2. Nobody could have perceived that being off side in real time. We have taken decisions to a level that are beyond human perception. It's football, not bloody playstation.Callumcafc said:That's exactly what VAR is there for. Brilliant. Throws the "kills the drama" argument out the window too.
And another thing, if that goal was ruled out because of an imperceptible rule infringement, why wasn't the first goal ruled out for handball?
I'm glad Chelsea lost and I'm glad Leicester won, but it shouldn't have been like that.
But it was Chelsea so tough titty and the one good VAR decision in an otherwise wholly redundant system.5 -
Literally made my day, roared with laughter when the VAR decision came through. Horrible, corrupt, entitled, scummy, plastic club.
Was great seeing the proper fans in a mixture of utter joy and disbelief - well done Leicester. As @JohnBoyUK said above, a victory for football over (dirty) money.
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Some of the Chelsea fans on sky sports news tonight:
”lucky goal, absolute fluke, better team lost”
”disgraceful decision by VAR, this should be reviewed but of course it won’t because it’s the FA and all they care about is the money”
Now the first one made me chuckle. The second comment, I’ve never hated someone whom I’ve never met before SO much. Does he even realise who the Chelsea owner is...
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A terrible cup final but I’m glad Leicester won it. City and Chelsea been in 4 of the last 5 semi finals, makes a mockery of it it.
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A telling comment post match for me was from Wrighty when he said he was envious of Leicester having great owners. The big clubs may have the £ but they dont have owners that care1
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I need the rest of that video badly !9
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That would be great if it was actually a handball offence but it wasn’t. You’ve presumed it is an offence without defining what handball actually is in 2021.Stig said:
Thanks for telling us the 'rules' on how VAR is used. Now let's have a look at the laws of the game:Callumcafc said:
An accidental handball incident is only called handball if it occurs immediately prior to a goal being scored. The ball hitting a hand in the middle of the pitch doesn't fall into that category. Both decisions were correct according the rules as they currently stand. 1-0 was the right result.Stig said:
So that's 0-0 then.Callumcafc said:
Agree to disagree. I think it's madness to let illegitimate goals stand and rob a team of a trophy like that.Stig said:
I'm well happy with the result and the VAR decision was technically right. But there's two reasons for my why VAR is bad in such circumstances. 1. The fans had celebrated what appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal. And the reason it would appeared to be a perfectly legitimate goal... 2. Nobody could have perceived that being off side in real time. We have taken decisions to a level that are beyond human perception. It's football, not bloody playstation.Callumcafc said:That's exactly what VAR is there for. Brilliant. Throws the "kills the drama" argument out the window too.
And another thing, if that goal was ruled out because of an imperceptible rule infringement, why wasn't the first goal ruled out for handball?
I'm glad Chelsea lost and I'm glad Leicester won, but it shouldn't have been like that.
https://www.goal.com/en-gb/news/handball-rules-updated-ifab-2020-21-season/1183navehh4tq12x9s126y7mr9A statement from the IFAB reads: “‘Accidental’ handball by an attacking player (or team-mate) is only penalised if it occurs ‘immediately’ before a goal or clear goal-scoring opportunity.
“If an attacking player accidentally touches the ball with their hand or arm and the ball then goes to another attacking player and the attacking team immediately scores, this is a handball offence.
“It is not an offence if, after an accidental handball, the ball travels some distance (pass or dribble) and/or there are several passes before the goal or goal-scoring opportunity.”
"A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences:- a handball offence (except for the goalkeeper within their penalty area)
https://www.theifab.com/news/annual-general-meeting-2021
“ Following this clarification, it is a handball offence if a player:- deliberately touches the ball with their hand/arm, for example moving the hand/arm towards the ball;
- touches the ball with their hand/arm when it has made their body unnaturally bigger. A player is considered to have made their body unnaturally bigger when the position of their hand/arm is not a consequence of, or justifiable by, the player’s body movement for that specific situation. By having their hand/arm in such a position, the player takes a risk of their hand/arm being hit by the ball and being penalised; or
- scores in the opponents’ goal:
- directly from their hand/arm, even if accidental, including by the goalkeeper; or
- immediately after the ball has touched their hand/arm, even if accidental.
Accidental handball that leads to a team-mate scoring a goal or having a goal-scoring opportunity will no longer be considered an offence.”
You could perhaps argue the “unnaturally bigger” condition applies here but clearly it was determined by the referee and the video assistant to be an accidental handball due to the ball deflecting off the knee and onto the hand.
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There are plenty of instances that make VAR look silly but this wasn’t one of them.0
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What it means to have an owner who cares.11
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I still hate it and would dispose of it yesterday. The singular best thing in football is the joy given in the 30 seconds after your team score a goal. If you cannot let yourself go with that because it might be wiped out by computer lines three minutes later, the game has lost its appeal imo.Callumcafc said:There are plenty of instances that make VAR look silly but this wasn’t one of them.
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Couple of interviews with Chelsea fans after the game:
”Absolutely disgraceful VAR, FA needs to review that...but obviously they’re not because they only care about the money”.
Irony not lost on you mate.
”We should have won the game, a lucky goal”.
Yep, luckiest goal I’ve ever seen.4
