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Wayne Rooney's Derby County - not any more (p41)

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  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,348
    relegation or survival, he'll be sacked in the close season ;.. sad that a grand old club, a F L founder has been allowed by owners, managers and players to get into such a state .. and yes I know this is not the first example and certainly won't be the last 
  • dicktracey
    dicktracey Posts: 318

  • msomerton
    msomerton Posts: 2,972
    They have already sold the ground, to another company of the current owner. 
  • hoof_it_up_to_benty
    hoof_it_up_to_benty Posts: 22,443
    Despite being utterly woeful I think they'll stay up - would love Rotherham to overhaul them.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,225
    edited April 2021
    Fixtures:-

    Derby
    Swansea (A), Swansea in the playoffs just depends what position they finish in, probably go into them on a winning run? 
    Sheffield Wednesday (H) Shit or bust game maybe?

    Rotherham
    Brentford (A) see Swansea above.
    Blackburn (H) Blackburn safe in midtable.
    Luton (A) Luton safe in midtable.
    Cardiff (A) Cardiff missed the playoffs.

    Sheffield Wednesday aka The Massives
    Nottingham Forest (H) Forest safe.
    Derby (A) Hopefully Rotherham have got their finger out and other results mean they both go down regardless of the result.
     



  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    msomerton said:
    They have already sold the ground, to another company of the current owner. 
    They could sell it again. EFL wouldn't do anything.
  • Chippycafc
    Chippycafc Posts: 14,142
    Cant see Rotherham winning any games, they have had plenty of chances to do so. Think Derby will survive.
  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,071
    I think Rotherham will beat Blackburn and Luton. I recall Blackburn last season losing against I think Luton when they had nothing to play for. 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,677
    msomerton said:
    They have already sold the ground, to another company of the current owner. 
    Hmm, is that so. Let's see ...

    That company sells the ground back to the club for the price of a multi-pack of pickled onion Monster Munch ...

    The club gets the ground re-valued (independently, of course) at £120m (claiming land value etc has increased since last time) ...

    The club then sells the ground to a different company (pure coincidence that it's also a related party) for £150m (seeing as they got away with selling at way above the fair value disclosed in the stats last time, why not do it again?).

    Meanwhile, at Football League HQ ...



  • Talal
    Talal Posts: 11,484
    It would be nice if Derby go down as well but as long as the Wendies go I'm happy. 
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  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    A now deleted tweet


  • Athletico Charlton
    Athletico Charlton Posts: 14,273
    Briston_Addick said:
    msomerton said:
    They have already sold the ground, to another company of the current owner. 
    Hmm, is that so. Let's see ...

    That company sells the ground back to the club for the price of a multi-pack of pickled onion Monster Munch ...

    The club gets the ground re-valued (independently, of course) at £120m (claiming land value etc has increased since last time) ...

    The club then sells the ground to a different company (pure coincidence that it's also a related party) for £150m (seeing as they got away with selling at way above the fair value disclosed in the stats last time, why not do it again?).

    Meanwhile, at Football League HQ ...



    Maybe the EFL would do that but I doubt HMRC, missing out on Stamp Duty on the sale into the club due to a sale at undervalue would turn a blind eye!

  • SantaClaus
    SantaClaus Posts: 7,651
    Cafc43v3r said:
    A now deleted tweet


    Better be quick with those invoices Matt.
  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    I suspect he has already submitted the one for her operation last week and also another one for her design skills for the boardroom at Derby. £80k for a couple of coats of magnolia should do it
  • DaveMehmet
    DaveMehmet Posts: 21,596
    Shame to see a famous old club in such a state but if they do go down, would love to look every one of those wankers who took the piss out of us on the pitch after the last game of the season when we we were relegated to the 3rd div and ask how they feel.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    Uboat said:
    The great thing about Derby’s woeful form is that it could well mean that it will be Wednesday’s 6 point deduction that takes them down. 
    Could be fact it was reduced to 6 points that keeps them up.
  • foresthillred
    foresthillred Posts: 1,436
    addick1956 said:
    SomervilleAddick said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Well at least one of Derby/Wednesday are guaranteed to go down which pleases me but makes it a bit tougher to get promotion next season if we don’t go up this one. 
    Just looking at their run out, last game is Derby v Sheffield Wednesday 
    The game of death ?
    Ideal scenario on the last day would be both teams needing a win to have a chance of staying up, with a draw taking both down. 0-0 with 5 minutes to go would make for desperately brilliant football.
  • ElfsborgAddick
    ElfsborgAddick Posts: 29,031
    DaveMehmet said:
    Shame to see a famous old club in such a state but if they do go down, would love to look every one of those wankers who took the piss out of us on the pitch after the last game of the season when we we were relegated to the 3rd div and ask how they feel.
    Never trust a geezer who uses the term duck.
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    Derby County may still be relegated. 

    https://theathletic.com/news/derby-championship-efl-ffp-appeal/1qTsyqHxZtEa
  • Miserableoldgit
    Miserableoldgit Posts: 21,458
    Sorry, should have written 

    Wayne Rooneys Derby County may still be relegated. 
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  • AndyG
    AndyG Posts: 5,906
    Well we all know what will happen here dont we. 12 pts deduction, reduced to 6 on appeal, imposed from the start of next season !
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,304
    AndyG said:
    Well we all know what will happen here dont we. 12 pts deduction, reduced to 6 on appeal, imposed from the start of next season !
    To be honest I hope it is from next season, if its from this then it really does take the absolute piss
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,949
    AndyG said:
    Well we all know what will happen here dont we. 12 pts deduction, reduced to 6 on appeal, imposed from the start of next season !
    Will have to be next.seasom surely given the SW precedent now set.

    Shame as I'd love Wycombe to stay up instead.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 36,010
    Pretty sure that (as with Wednesday) if the verdict and points deduction is decided after the last game then it will only apply from next season.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,220
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Pretty sure that (as with Wednesday) if the verdict and points deduction is decided after the last game then it will only apply from next season.
    Unless you're Macclesfield when it can be applied immediately as the article says.


    But Derby, and Wednesday, aren't Macclesfield so they are OK
  • PrincessFiona
    PrincessFiona Posts: 5,437
    Henry Irving said:
    Chris_from_Sidcup said:
    Pretty sure that (as with Wednesday) if the verdict and points deduction is decided after the last game then it will only apply from next season.
    Unless you're Macclesfield when it can be applied immediately as the article says.


    But Derby, and Wednesday, aren't Macclesfield so they are OK
    Sadly this is the case
  • Redrobo
    Redrobo Posts: 11,330
    Will it be different to SW as the decision has been made and appealed?

    -12 points should apply. Appeal would be pointless - ged it? 😬
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,625
    edited May 2021
    I imagine it will be about the same punishment as for a speeding ticket. 3 points & a £100 fine. Or take a speed awereness course (in the football context - read the rule book) and told to be more careful next time.

    If the "Independent" panel are consistent then they will side with Derby - 12 point deduction which will take place next season (same as SW last season). Wycombe's appeal wont win either.  
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,844
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/57068040

    BBC reporting it now

    Derby County are set to find out that they have lost a battle with the English Football League over the Championship club's accounting policies.
    The Rams were cleared of breaching Financial Fair Play rules last year.
    However, the EFL appealed against the decision to an independent tribunal and it is understood to have won its case, which centres around how new signings are accounted for.
    An announcement is expected soon.
  • Addickted
    Addickted Posts: 19,456
    So the EFL win it's case and announce it the day after the season ends?

    Wigan Athletic on Twitter Four weeks after we were taken over Wigan Athletic have entered administration Congratulations once more to the EFL - fit and proper persons test working well again wafc

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