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January 2021 Transfer Targets (last minute swoop for Jaiyesimi p184 - NOW it's all over.)
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I know it’s an expensive thing to set up, and you’ve got to be in the right division to to do it, but it’s a shame we can’t have a player farm going on, where we are loaning players out that increase in value, and make the first team or get sold on for a healthy profit.
Maybe at our level it’s just unearthing a few gems of our own and finding some lower down the divisions talent who can make the step up.1 -
+ he has been in the bench for West Brom of late.Leeds_Addick said:
Really liked him for us and no doubt would make a big difference but we wouldn’t be able to afford him on loan and he wouldn’t drop to league 1bolloxbolder said:Doubtful but would love to get Sam Field back. Guess it depends how many big Sam gets to sign this month.0 -
Bielik was very often exquisite for us; the performance against Luton was one of the best I’ve seen from a Charlton midfielder , at any level. I don’t think we quite realised how good him, Cullen and Aribo were collectively - it was a championship plus quality midfield.addick1956 said:
Without the same propensity for getting send off which Bielik has.sam3110 said:Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially10 -
That's a good idea. Maybe Thomas could buy a group of different clubs in other countries. We could move players to other clubs to get fit, and take those clubs best players to strengthen us. We could call it "The Network".Mendonca In Asdas said:I know it’s an expensive thing to set up, and you’ve got to be in the right division to to do it, but it’s a shame we can’t have a player farm going on, where we are loaning players out that increase in value, and make the first team or get sold on for a healthy profit.
Maybe at our level it’s just unearthing a few gems of our own and finding some lower down the divisions talent who can make the step up.
I'm surprised no one has thought of this. I bet it would be an instant success!!18 -
Gunter and Pratley covering Deji. Be massively surprised if we sign a CB.Redrobo said:
If Innis isn’t back for a while we would not have cover right hand side?cafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehowThat said I think he is looking for a mobile defensive midfielder.0 -
So would I.cafcfan1990 said:
Gunter and Pratley covering Deji. Be massively surprised if we sign a CB.Redrobo said:
If Innis isn’t back for a while we would not have cover right hand side?cafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehowThat said I think he is looking for a mobile defensive midfielder.0 -
Good player - no Abdul Razak though.wmcf123 said:
Bielik was very often exquisite for us; the performance against Luton was one of the best I’ve seen from a Charlton midfielder , at any level. I don’t think we quite realised how good him, Cullen and Aribo were collectively - it was a championship plus quality midfield.addick1956 said:
Without the same propensity for getting send off which Bielik has.sam3110 said:Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially2 -
Somewhat like mentioning Mendonca and comparing him to Frank Noublericky_otto said:
Good player - no Abdul Razak though.wmcf123 said:
Bielik was very often exquisite for us; the performance against Luton was one of the best I’ve seen from a Charlton midfielder , at any level. I don’t think we quite realised how good him, Cullen and Aribo were collectively - it was a championship plus quality midfield.addick1956 said:
Without the same propensity for getting send off which Bielik has.sam3110 said:Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially0 -
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow2 -
If we get promoted there's a danger of Derby going down. Sneaky bid for Beliek please Thomas!
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I'd rather Bielik than Belly Ache.BigRedEvil said:If we get promoted there's a danger of Derby going down. Sneaky bid for Beliek please Thomas!1 -
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow10 -
One of the hardest workers on the pitch.cafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow2 -
One of the hardest workers on the pitch. His movement creates space and opportunities for others.cafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow3 -
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow11 -
rubbishDazzler21 said:
One of the hardest workers on the pitch. His movement creates space and opportunities for others.cafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow2 -
In a theoretical world where we did want rid of Washington how exactly do we manage that without paying up his contract1
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6 goals and an assist says otherwise.DOUCHER said:
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow
His confidence may be lacking a touch at the moment but he's shown he has a bit of class there, we need to nurture that as we won't find better for 1.3k a week (which is all that is counted of his salary)8 -
Not this bollocks again, you keep banging the same drum but for the amount we can afford and how many goals he's got so far, there's no one out there that we can bring in, in January, that would be markedly betterDOUCHER said:
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow6 -
We would have done so already if Bowyer was going to sign a CB. It would be odd to sign one now with Famewo and Innis on the road to recoverycafcfan1990 said:
Gunter and Pratley covering Deji. Be massively surprised if we sign a CB.Redrobo said:
If Innis isn’t back for a while we would not have cover right hand side?cafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehowThat said I think he is looking for a mobile defensive midfielder.1 -
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They are all 23 as to is Lookman. Aribo is 24.Covered_End_Lad said:
Thing is we would have had Gomez, konsa and grant as players in that bracket (not sure we can count lookman?) so they are coming through but we have just cashed in on them!killerandflash said:
Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23sCafc43v3r said:
Have we?Redrobo said:
I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.Cafc43v3r said:I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.
Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in.
It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term.
I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.
I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker.
Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
On Tuesday we probably won't have an academy player in the 18. I am not sure AMB counts.
I do wonder if we are starting to see the "being out of the Premier league" effect impact our early years recruitment and we aren't compensating with the likes of Aribo and Lookman as we were.
Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree but, for me, it looks like an area on concern.1 -
Maynard-Brewer joined when he was 16 so in that debatable bracketCafc43v3r said:
They are all 23 as to is Lookman. Aribo is 24.Covered_End_Lad said:
Thing is we would have had Gomez, konsa and grant as players in that bracket (not sure we can count lookman?) so they are coming through but we have just cashed in on them!killerandflash said:
Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23sCafc43v3r said:
Have we?Redrobo said:
I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.Cafc43v3r said:I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.
Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in.
It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term.
I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.
I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker.
Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
On Tuesday we probably won't have an academy player in the 18. I am not sure AMB counts.
I do wonder if we are starting to see the "being out of the Premier league" effect impact our early years recruitment and we aren't compensating with the likes of Aribo and Lookman as we were.
Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree but, for me, it looks like an area on concern.
With the amount of First Team kids we've churned out this last decade or so I always felt that there would come a time when that conveyor belt would slow down a bit eventually, and that we'd go through a bit of a blip
Definitely agree that we're potentially suffering from being out of the Premier League now though; Barker | Henry | Vennings, even Morgan (who like you say will be suspended on Tuesday, hence not having an Academy Player in that squad), are they truly good enough for the Premier League some day, or will they be solid Championship or lower Football League standard?0 -
wrong - give smyth back and get a prem academy loaneesam3110 said:
Not this bollocks again, you keep banging the same drum but for the amount we can afford and how many goals he's got so far, there's no one out there that we can bring in, in January, that would be markedly betterDOUCHER said:
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow2 -
no it doesn't - no pace, no aerial ability, no physicality, lays it off, never attacks / takes anybody on - you are wrong but believe what u wantDazzler21 said:
6 goals and an assist says otherwise.DOUCHER said:
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow
His confidence may be lacking a touch at the moment but he's shown he has a bit of class there, we need to nurture that as we won't find better for 1.3k a week (which is all that is counted of his salary)3 -
we will not go up if bogle, washington or smyth spend much time on the pitch so doesn't matter what we dio with hbim - pop him up your bum if you like - we have 2 forwards + millar and we need another coz as i say, if chucks gets injured, its season overMattF said:In a theoretical world where we did want rid of Washington how exactly do we manage that without paying up his contract3 -
Don't think he'd fitDOUCHER said:
we will not go up if bogle, washington or smyth spend much time on the pitch so doesn't matter what we dio with hbim - pop him up your bum if you like - we have 2 forwards + millar and we need another coz as i say, if chucks gets injured, its season overMattF said:In a theoretical world where we did want rid of Washington how exactly do we manage that without paying up his contract2 -
Love comments like this.DOUCHER said:
no it doesn't - no pace, no aerial ability, no physicality, lays it off, never attacks / takes anybody on - you are wrong but believe what u wantDazzler21 said:
6 goals and an assist says otherwise.DOUCHER said:
same way you'd fund the player u want - he;s useless as an attacking threatcafcfan1990 said:
Washington is far from useless. How are you proposing we fund this striker?DOUCHER said:
because washington, bogle and smyth are useless? if chucks gets injured, its season over - id make it the prioritycafcfan1990 said:
Can’t see we’d been in for another striker when we have 4 plus Smyth. I think it will definitely be a CM. Could be a CB but Deji playing well and Famewo back makes that doubtful.DOUCHER said:if we can only have one player it would be a toss up between another striker (with physical presence and pace ideally or an athletic / physically imposing midfielder - ideally we get both after managing to offload a couple somehow
His confidence may be lacking a touch at the moment but he's shown he has a bit of class there, we need to nurture that as we won't find better for 1.3k a week (which is all that is counted of his salary)
Your wrong
Im right
Despite the fact you said he is useless as an attacking threat but have already been told he has 6 league goals so he clearly isnt useless, but ofcourse they are wrong and you are right 🤣🤣🤣17 -
Remember kids like Timmy Abraham, Jeremy Sarmiento and likely others I have never heard of have been spirited away at 16 and must now be 18-20. I also thought our U18's are meant to be highly thought of.ForeverAddickted said:
Maynard-Brewer joined when he was 16 so in that debatable bracketCafc43v3r said:
They are all 23 as to is Lookman. Aribo is 24.Covered_End_Lad said:
Thing is we would have had Gomez, konsa and grant as players in that bracket (not sure we can count lookman?) so they are coming through but we have just cashed in on them!killerandflash said:
Our academy has actually produced relatively few players in the last 2 or 3 years really, in comparison to some other periods when Charlton have relied on U23sCafc43v3r said:
Have we?Redrobo said:
I think we have promoted so many youngsters that have then left, the cupboard is a bit bare. Sounds like a good idea.Cafc43v3r said:I would love to see 2 or 3 18-20 year olds bought in this window with the view of them being in contention for the 1st team in the summer.
Whether it's a consequence of the last 2 or 3 years or has just happened it seems an area we are short in.
It's hard to get behind a rebuilding project when you only sign players in their late 20s or early (even mid) 30s or loans you have no realist chance of signing medium term.
I think if you look at the 23+ range we have lost a lot of players that would be the core of a half decent championship side.
I think it maybe the rest of other factors at play. If you look at the current u23s there are a lot of "external" players then quite a gap to Henry and Barker.
Morgan and Doughty, but nobody else really knocking on the door in terms of outfield players in the 19-22 year old age group other than perhaps Vennings. No centre backs or strikers who could have done a job during our recent injury problems, indeed it's quite unusual to see a Charlton side with NO home grown defenders at all, when you consider the number who have come through down the years
On Tuesday we probably won't have an academy player in the 18. I am not sure AMB counts.
I do wonder if we are starting to see the "being out of the Premier league" effect impact our early years recruitment and we aren't compensating with the likes of Aribo and Lookman as we were.
Maybe I am barking up the wrong tree but, for me, it looks like an area on concern.
With the amount of First Team kids we've churned out this last decade or so I always felt that there would come a time when that conveyor belt would slow down a bit eventually, and that we'd go through a bit of a blip
Definitely agree that we're potentially suffering from being out of the Premier League now though; Barker | Henry | Vennings, even Morgan (who like you say will be suspended on Tuesday, hence not having an Academy Player in that squad), are they truly good enough for the Premier League some day, or will they be solid Championship or lower Football League standard?
The likes of AMB, Barker and Henry certainly have a chance as well.7 -
Might be missing something here, but Bielik was never sent off for us, as far as I remember. Plenty of yellow cards, but never a red.addick1956 said:
Without the same propensity for getting send off which Bielik has.sam3110 said:Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially2 -
He has only had 1 red in his career and that was for Derbystoneroses19 said:
Might be missing something here, but Bielik was never sent off for us, as far as I remember. Plenty of yellow cards, but never a red.addick1956 said:
Without the same propensity for getting send off which Bielik has.sam3110 said:Basically we need another Bielik, someone equally strong at defensive midfield and centre back, an upgrade on Pratley essentially2
