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Darren Pratley (Page 25 - Detailed interview with the SLP pre Leyton Orient match )

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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    edited November 2020
    I honestly think that having the experience that both Pratley and Watson bring will be the difference between us and most other sides

    I cant think of many other clubs in League One who have that sort of Midfield General 
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    ForeverAddickted said:
    I honestly think that having the experience that both Pratley and Watson bring will be the difference between us and most other sides

    I cant think of many other clubs in League One who have that sort of Midfield General 
    Add Gunter, Pearce and Matthews to that. Even Williams. It’s a very good squad for this level. 
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,374
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
  • JohnfromNorfolk
    JohnfromNorfolk Posts: 1,324
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    If he times his run properly like we saw at Shrewsbury then I agree with Killer - If he times his run like he did at times last season then hell no... I cant remember the Championship team but there was one game last season where he literally got in the way when we were trying to score
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,374
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Twice, Shrewsbury and Doncaster in the Play-Off semi final
  • blackpool72
    blackpool72 Posts: 23,709
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Twice, Shrewsbury and Doncaster in the Play-Off semi final
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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    Actually three times - Also scored from what I'd argue was open play against Coventry on Boxing Day. It was initially a free kick but the ball was bouncing around so much before Pratley headed it in, its a bit harsh to say he hadnt scored from open play
  • JohnfromNorfolk
    JohnfromNorfolk Posts: 1,324
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Actually scored seven for us since he's been here.


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  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,714
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Actually scored seven for us since he's been here.
    Most of them have been headers from corners though so not really in open play

    Leuth is talking about runs from Midfield from Pratley
  • Leuth
    Leuth Posts: 23,374
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Twice, Shrewsbury and Doncaster in the Play-Off semi final
    Ah yes, of course. 

    Still doesn't justify the idea that you can play him further forwards and he'll be much of a threat. Play him as DM and he can come forward for set-pieces :)
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,962
    ForeverAddickted said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    JohnfromNorfolk said:
    Leuth said:
    killerandflash said:

    I also think he's slightly wasted as a "holding" player as he's super fit and does get into the box to nick the odd goal
    OK look I'm all for the Pratley love-in but no, no, no, no. He looks completely lost every time he plays further forward 
    Apart from when he score's goals.
    Pratley has scored...once for us from open play?
    Actually scored seven for us since he's been here.
    Most of them have been headers from corners though so not really in open play

    Leuth is talking about runs from Midfield from Pratley
    That's not his game though. Bowyer said so.


  • Exiled_Addick
    Exiled_Addick Posts: 17,209
    CAFCsayer said:
    When everyone is fit, I'd rotate him and Watson at the base of the diamond... I think they're similar players, and against the cloggers in this league you don't need both
    I think it’s  when we’re playing the cloggers is exactly when we need both. See the Northampton game. The reason we won that was because players like Pratley are never going to be intimidated by the physical teams in this division. They’ll fight just as hard as the Northampton players and they’re better footballers. 

    We needed two defensively minded midfielders less against a team like Fleetwood because their plan was to try and out football us meaning our ballers had room to play their stuff. It actually made for a much closer competition but in my opinion only because our more skillful players are still finding their peak fluency. 
  • DOUCHER
    DOUCHER Posts: 7,916
    Oggy Red said:
    DOUCHER said:
    He's played really well last year and this (relatively speaking given he doesn't have much football to his game) but won't be in the first choice 11 once we have everybody fit - he's a great player if trying to grind out a win / win ugly but not the answer if we want to start smashing teams and not be hanging on for wins. 
    Pratley is often judged on his ability with the ball. But that's not what he's here for.
    Bowyer, talking at the time Prats first signed:

    "He's definitely something that we need. We have a man coming through the door - someone who is going to compete and fight and we were lacking that towards the end of last season.

    "He's seen it, been there and done it, he's got promotions so he knows what it takes."


    i understand what his game is and stand by my statement.There will be times and games when we need a 'dog' man but he will not feature in the line up when we just go out to win our bread and butter games - as bowyer says, we've just been setting the team up to compete at the moment as he hasn't had tome to work on patterns of play etc going forwards -once all r fit and he has had time to do that, Pratley won't be in the starting line up. I respect and appreciate everything Pratley does but i'm pretty sure he doesn't expect to be first name on the teamsheet either.  
  • Valley11
    Valley11 Posts: 12,005
    DOUCHER said:
    Oggy Red said:
    DOUCHER said:
    He's played really well last year and this (relatively speaking given he doesn't have much football to his game) but won't be in the first choice 11 once we have everybody fit - he's a great player if trying to grind out a win / win ugly but not the answer if we want to start smashing teams and not be hanging on for wins. 
    Pratley is often judged on his ability with the ball. But that's not what he's here for.
    Bowyer, talking at the time Prats first signed:

    "He's definitely something that we need. We have a man coming through the door - someone who is going to compete and fight and we were lacking that towards the end of last season.

    "He's seen it, been there and done it, he's got promotions so he knows what it takes."


    i understand what his game is and stand by my statement.There will be times and games when we need a 'dog' man but he will not feature in the line up when we just go out to win our bread and butter games - as bowyer says, we've just been setting the team up to compete at the moment as he hasn't had tome to work on patterns of play etc going forwards -once all r fit and he has had time to do that, Pratley won't be in the starting line up. I respect and appreciate everything Pratley does but i'm pretty sure he doesn't expect to be first name on the teamsheet either.  
    That’s your opinion. Not fact. I think he plays even when all are fit. 
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    I think you’re both wrong... he’ll mainly rotate with Watson and sometimes we’ll play both of them.
  • sinceiwasyoung
    sinceiwasyoung Posts: 1,040
    Really missed in today's game  .
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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,947
    shirty5 said:

    Some decent pros in that list
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,074
    Looking good for a red card i reckon.  How many over 35s have done that for us?
  • Senpai
    Senpai Posts: 901
    Is his contract up this summer? If it is we should be releasing him.
  • IR94
    IR94 Posts: 775
    Never understood the love in for this guy, yes his a trier, but he can barely pass the ball, feet are at 10 and 2
  • Scoham
    Scoham Posts: 37,432
    edited February 2021
    Senpai said:
    Is his contract up this summer? If it is we should be releasing him.
    Yes. The fact that he’s a regular shows how we’ve gone backwards over the last 2 years.
  • stoneroses19
    stoneroses19 Posts: 7,235
    IR94 said:
    Never understood the love in for this guy, yes his a trier, but he can barely pass the ball, feet are at 10 and 2
    He was superb in the run up and during the play offs. MOTM in Donny second leg. Had a great season for us last season. Admittedly, he’s not been good this season.
  • cafcfan1990
    cafcfan1990 Posts: 12,811
    Slows the game down. Agree about the red too, if he turns out for the second half he's off. 
  • Nicholas
    Nicholas Posts: 7,638
    Supposed to be captain and he does shit like that. Every game it feels like he should be sent off.  Absolute disgrace fuck him off.  
  • WattsTheMatter
    WattsTheMatter Posts: 371
    cafcfan1990 said:
    Slows the game down. Agree about the red too, if he turns out for the second half he's off. 
    This aged well, far sooner than I expect even you thought it would!
  • magic1999
    magic1999 Posts: 469
    Should not be playing !!!! period makes too many mistakes cannot turn on the ball cannot control the ball cannot pass the ball surely there are kids in the U23's who would do a better job ! absolute disgrace of a player, should be stripped of the captain's armband.    

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