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Match Thread: Northampton v Charlton |24th October 2020

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  • bigstemarra
    bigstemarra Posts: 5,098
    From one extreme to another.....an overly defensive midfield now becomes one that appears to a banzai all-out-attack job.

    Should be a lively game!

    P.S How many times will JW be fouled this game do you think?  I'll start the bidding at twenty!
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,961
    Addick Addict said:
    Aneke has started 4 of the 58 games that we've played since he joined the Club and scored just 3 goals.

    I think we know why LB suggested he might not get 20 goals this season!
    Aneke played 40 games, scoring 19 goals, for MKD the season before joining Charlton.


  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,265
    I suspect Bowyer sees this game as easier than Oxford, so would rather make sure Watson does not miss Tuesday through suspension. He thinks we can win this game through attacking  early and bring Pratley on when we have gone ahead to shut the game down in midfield.
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,917
    FishCostaFortune said:
    killerandflash said:
    Puzzled why we picked 2 experienced defensive midfielders (and the more experienced Purrington at LB) on Tuesday, yet have gone for neither tonight. Pratley only played half the match on Tuesday as well, so shouldn't be tired

    A very progressive midfield, a lot depends on Levitt sitting back to provide cover to the back 4, as it would be waste for JFC to be stuck doing the defensive duties
    I would guess Bows has Tuesdays fixture with Oxford in mind as well. 
    But it's not as if Tuesday is the crunch, tough fixture in which we have to play our "best" team, as Pompey next Saturday is the harder match
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,265
    Oggy Red said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Aneke has started 4 of the 58 games that we've played since he joined the Club and scored just 3 goals.

    I think we know why LB suggested he might not get 20 goals this season!
    Aneke played 40 games, scoring 19 goals, for MKD the season before joining Charlton.


    The only full season in his whole career
  • eastterrace6168
    eastterrace6168 Posts: 22,696
    Garrymanilow said:
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Someone like Aneke, who has barely averaged 20 games a season in his career, is not at the age of 27 going to become a reliable player.
    It's what can happen to any player who's not match fit. easily done when you've over stretched.


    Why would he not be match fit?
    He never will be again. I don't know what's happened to make him this way but Chuks has become someone who has to be carefully managed through and between games because it seems that any part of him can ping off at any time. It's frustrating but I don't think he'll ever be a player you can rely on to be consistently part of the first team
    How many times have we had this scenario regarding players
    breaking down after injury too early, or continuously seeming
    to get injuries far too easily.
    Remember last season there was talk around a possible problem
    with fitness regime, and treatment, I don't know, but it does seem
    to be rearing it's head again already this season

  • Rob
    Rob Posts: 11,818
    I agree that JFC is better in a more advanced position.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,369
    near total change in midfield, let's hope it works
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,592
    killerandflash said:
    FishCostaFortune said:
    killerandflash said:
    Puzzled why we picked 2 experienced defensive midfielders (and the more experienced Purrington at LB) on Tuesday, yet have gone for neither tonight. Pratley only played half the match on Tuesday as well, so shouldn't be tired

    A very progressive midfield, a lot depends on Levitt sitting back to provide cover to the back 4, as it would be waste for JFC to be stuck doing the defensive duties
    I would guess Bows has Tuesdays fixture with Oxford in mind as well. 
    But it's not as if Tuesday is the crunch, tough fixture in which we have to play our "best" team, as Pompey next Saturday is the harder match
    I reckon they'll be as hard as each other; dont forget that Oxford were third until the PPG last season
  • ross1
    ross1 Posts: 51,006


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  • mid_life_crisis
    mid_life_crisis Posts: 3,265
    Off_it said:
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Someone like Aneke, who has barely averaged 20 games a season in his career, is not at the age of 27 going to become a reliable player.
    It's what can happen to any player who's not match fit. easily done when you've over stretched.


    Why would he not be match fit?
    Because he's always injured?
    Play them in too many games, they can pick up injuries. If they haven't played enough, they can pick up injuries.I don't buy it mate. They're either injury prone or not. Aneke is a decent player, but he will always miss too many games.
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,482
    Was planning on giving this a miss and getting Tuesday night's game.

    I've wilted and will get both.

    Come on you reds!!
  • Broadstairs_Red
    Broadstairs_Red Posts: 361
    Think in this division you need a Watson or Pratley in the middle otherwise our lightweight midfield will be bullied but don't think Northampton are an Accrington type of side.
  • CAFCsayer
    CAFCsayer Posts: 10,237
    On 1-0 and 1-0 Maddison fgs... Coyr! 
  • Lewis Coaches
    Lewis Coaches Posts: 5,409
    JoshAddick said:
    Maatsen masterclass incoming.
    Hope you are correct..

    I must be one of the few Charlton fans to have seen this Maatsen play.

    Just over 3years ago he was playing left wing against Germany for the Dutch under 15s.

    The guy is young and up and coming but is still a boy in the old 3rd division. Tough league.




  • Garrymanilow
    Garrymanilow Posts: 13,204
    eastterrace6168 said:
    Garrymanilow said:
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Someone like Aneke, who has barely averaged 20 games a season in his career, is not at the age of 27 going to become a reliable player.
    It's what can happen to any player who's not match fit. easily done when you've over stretched.


    Why would he not be match fit?
    He never will be again. I don't know what's happened to make him this way but Chuks has become someone who has to be carefully managed through and between games because it seems that any part of him can ping off at any time. It's frustrating but I don't think he'll ever be a player you can rely on to be consistently part of the first team
    How many times have we had this scenario regarding players
    breaking down after injury too early, or continuously seeming
    to get injuries far too easily.
    Remember last season there was talk around a possible problem
    with fitness regime, and treatment, I don't know, but it does seem
    to be rearing it's head again already this season

    It's the legacy of Roland more than anything else. His underfunding of the squad led to us needing to bring in eitherplayers who were struggling to get deals due to past fitness issues like Matthews, Williams, Kayal etc or players who had been out of contract all summer and never had a pre-season; they all were available to us without other competition because of a patchy injury record and lack of current fitness. We're seeing that again a bit with our late lifting of the embargo but hopefully in future we'll be less affected by it
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,899
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Off_it said:
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Someone like Aneke, who has barely averaged 20 games a season in his career, is not at the age of 27 going to become a reliable player.
    It's what can happen to any player who's not match fit. easily done when you've over stretched.


    Why would he not be match fit?
    Because he's always injured?
    Play them in too many games, they can pick up injuries. If they haven't played enough, they can pick up injuries.I don't buy it mate. They're either injury prone or not. Aneke is a decent player, but he will always miss too many games.
    I'm agreeing with you.

    Some players never seem to get injured. Others are injured all the time. Some just seem to constantly pick up knocks and are always trying to pick up match fitness. Aneke is in the last category.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,961
    edited October 2020
    Southbank said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Aneke has started 4 of the 58 games that we've played since he joined the Club and scored just 3 goals.

    I think we know why LB suggested he might not get 20 goals this season!
    Aneke played 40 games, scoring 19 goals, for MKD the season before joining Charlton.


    The only full season in his whole career
    Er, no. Unless you want to re-write history.

    Aneke has played:

    38 games for Crewe 2012-13 (on loan as a young Arsenal player)
    44 games for Crewe 2013-14

    30 games for Zulte Waregem 2014-15 (JBelgium Juniper Pro League)
    11 games for Zulte Waregem 2015-16 before bad injury sidelined him for 12 months

    18 games for MKD 2016-17
    35 games for MKD 2017-18
    41 games for MKD 2018-19

    There was1 single long term injury at Zulte in Belgium 5 years ago, befor joining Charlton and getting broken by the intensity of Bowyers training sessions. :neutral:


  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,854
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    ForeverAddickted said:

    Hoskins Adams and Rose have been playing for them forever it feels like...
    Danny Rose only signed this summer...
    You're right - I think they had a player called Rose a few years back....
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danny_Rose_(footballer,_born_1988)

    They obviously like players called Danny Rose...
    Being the anorak that I am I came across a similar one yesterday.

    There is a former Morecambe and Swindon striker called Paul Mullin who is now 46 and of course has retired. The current top scorer in League 2 is called Paul Mullin too and he plays for Cambridge United. But he used to play for both Morecambe and Swindon. 

    An unbelievable coincidence. You'll be pleased to learn that I am here all day!

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  • meldrew66
    meldrew66 Posts: 2,563
    Not enough strength up front without Chuks
  • Sillybilly
    Sillybilly Posts: 9,236
    Just bought the stream. Hoping the line up means we will be positive. Didn’t want to know my credit card so had to pay by PayPal. 
  • Briston_Addick
    Briston_Addick Posts: 11,742
    carly burn said:
    The Charlton formation according to Fotmob


    Is Omar Bogle the 20-goal-a-season centre-back our team has been crying out for?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Off_it said:
    mid_life_crisis said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Someone like Aneke, who has barely averaged 20 games a season in his career, is not at the age of 27 going to become a reliable player.
    It's what can happen to any player who's not match fit. easily done when you've over stretched.


    Why would he not be match fit?
    Because he's always injured?
    Play them in too many games, they can pick up injuries. If they haven't played enough, they can pick up injuries.I don't buy it mate. They're either injury prone or not. Aneke is a decent player, but he will always miss too many games.
    I think it's only Williams and Chuks who are injury prone now. The last 2 seasons we have had some proper freak injuries then, due to that, players started getting injured because they had to play "in the red". 
  • carly burn
    carly burn Posts: 19,482
    Thing is. Are we doing all we can to prevent these injuries?

    Probably not due to the piss poor support Bowyer has received from past owners.

    Marginal gains will be huge in a wage capped league. I'm sure TS is aware and is looking to improve things.
  • Mendonca In Asdas
    Mendonca In Asdas Posts: 22,656
    Just managed to get my gas and electric meter readings in, now bring on the footie!!
  • DamoNorthStand
    DamoNorthStand Posts: 10,953
    Lewis Coaches said:
    JoshAddick said:
    Maatsen masterclass incoming.
    Hope you are correct..

    I must be one of the few Charlton fans to have seen this Maatsen play.

    Just over 3years ago he was playing left wing against Germany for the Dutch under 15s.

    The guy is young and up and coming but is still a boy in the old 3rd division. Tough league.




    Other than all the Charlton fans who watched him play for Charlton on Tuesday 
  • Southbank
    Southbank Posts: 5,265
    Oggy Red said:
    Southbank said:
    Oggy Red said:
    Addick Addict said:
    Aneke has started 4 of the 58 games that we've played since he joined the Club and scored just 3 goals.

    I think we know why LB suggested he might not get 20 goals this season!
    Aneke played 40 games, scoring 19 goals, for MKD the season before joining Charlton.


    The only full season in his whole career
    Er, no. Unless you want to re-write history.

    Aneke has played:

    38 games for Crewe 2012-13 (on loan as a young Arsenal player)
    44 games for Crewe 2013-14

    30 games for Zulte Waregem 2014-15 (JBelgium Juniper Pro League)
    11 games for Zulte Waregem 2015-16 before bad injury sidelined him for 12 months

    18 games for MKD 2016-17
    35 games for MKD 2017-18
    41 games for MKD 2018-19

    There was1 single long term injury at Zulte in Belgium 5 years ago, befor joining Charlton and getting broken by the intensity of Bowyers training sessions. :neutral:


    You are including sub appearances. I meant starts.
  • Wheresmeticket
    Wheresmeticket Posts: 17,304
    edited October 2020
    .
  • moutuakilla
    moutuakilla Posts: 7,580
    Wheresmeticket? said:
    carly burn said:
    The Charlton formation according to Fotmob


    They've got bogle as a central defender?
    At least that was the only mistake they made
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