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  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,788
    Blean Woods are a very good example of ancient woodland. When I worked for Kent Wildlife Trust they were planning this project and I'm glad to see that they have got the funding to go ahead. We need these wild areas to mitigate the effects of climate change and to improve biodiversity, which is essential as so many habitats are being destroyed.
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,788
    More craziness,  Medway & Maidstone will soon be completely joined up into one massive conurbation. Have you seen this @Carter?

    Kent is the 6th most densely populated county in the country.

    https://www.kentonline.co.uk/maidstone/news/garden-village-what-garden-village-238017/?fbclid=IwAR2AxIxm7j8ryco0biGiYqQ9V6YTVItpjXWmGr4swQxACuHrKINd13EsU0Y

  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    Nope, no consultation seen for that. I know the people who own that land are desperate to cash in on it though. 

    That will really destroy a lovely area and massively piss me off 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,788
    Me too, having lived in that area myself. 

    Is this land owned by the Atw.....s?
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    Yes, they are not all horrible just the ones who don't live anywhere near who are causing this problem 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,788
    Carter said:
    Yes, they are not all horrible just the ones who don't live anywhere near who are causing this prob




    I worked with KA's wife many years ago.
  • Currently living with my missus parents in Hempstead and they havent heard about this. Its an absolute joke if it happens
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    Currently living with my missus parents in Hempstead and they havent heard about this. Its an absolute joke if it happens
    First I heard was on this thread, I've since seen the planning application and have lodged my objection. I moved to where I live now for the greenery and open space. I nearly ended up moving to Hempstead recently. Those roads that link Lordswood, Hempstead and Bredhurst are not planned to be widened (not that they can be) or any other road infrastructure is included in the consultation documents. This is a fucking 2000 dwelling development in the middle of somewhere that is already pretty inaccessible 
  • ME14addick
    ME14addick Posts: 9,788
    It is sheer madness. The problem is that as it is in the north of the borough of Maidstone, they won't be worried, because it will be Medway's problem. 

    I've lived in both Lordswood & Hempstead and the roads most definitely won't cope. 

    Soon there wont be any green spaces left and only huge housing estates. 
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    Thing is, the new builds are the equivalent of modern slums. Gaffs bang on top of each other with postage stamp sized overlooked gardens, no parking, narrow roads. Like the places they keep trying to tell us are no good (pretty much every property in Luton and the white road estate) 

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  • Valiantphil
    Valiantphil Posts: 6,418
    Some of the ones around Ashford have been numbered using the Vorderman/Riley method. 
    The streets go like 2-10 - 5 -7 - 25 - 50
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    I'm delivering some of those leaflets tomorrow 
  • JohnBoyUK
    JohnBoyUK Posts: 9,067
    This seems like the best place to raise this...

    A lovely area in the London Borough of Bromley, Aperfield Green and Strawberry Fields, just south east of Biggin Hill, proper Green Belt is now under threat from developers who are scoping opinion to build 650 houses in the area.

    If you're against the development on Green Belt, we really could do with as many oppose comments on this document as we can get.

    https://planningaccess.bromley.gov.uk/pr/s/detail/a0lTv000002TjgXIAS?c__r=Arcus_BE_Public_Register&fbclid=IwY2xjawN6so5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlUE9xWGI2NVQxQUljV1Jqc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuxq9PBtPpmb3-Tkuwb6OnochdiINiBw9Og6-oKJgNqpYIP1yHpTZTPaagcx_aem_CNtvGA6cZD3ZSpfU0I9C8Q

    I attended the Action Group meeting on Wednesday night and there was a massive turn out, all of whom oppose the development.

    We recently moved between Biggin Hill and Westerham to enjoy the benefits of the Green Belt and Village life yet it looks like formal planning will be sought once the scoping is completed.

    If you can spare a couple of minutes, please sign and oppose.

    Much love
    JB x
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,757
    Good luck @JohnBoyUK, you are going to need it. The odds are all stacked on the side of the developers these days. We have opposed two developments in our small village over the last five years and despite our best efforts and a lot of hard work we got nowhere. Now another is planned and I don't think anyone has the inclination to fight it now. If it goes ahead that would have been 200 new homes in a small village with a small stores, a doctors and a pub. The village school is oversubscribed as it is with parents having to drive up to ten miles for the nearest available school and the surgery is on its knees. In most cases unless its huge development there is no improvements to info structure.

    As I say, all the best.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    edited November 7
    I wish you all the best with that @JohnBoyUK. Each morning and evening I get to see the mess being made of what was once a gorgeous green chunk of land now being turned into a modern slum estate for 800 plus houses. No infrastructure improvement for these 800 extra dwelling with another 1200 to follow ensuring there is no green land left in Medway. That had next to no support apart from delusional muppets who think developers have any interest in providing affordable housing and not selling premium rate, shit-builds to anyone stupid enough to get ticked up to live in them. 

    All bets are off now for rationally opposing these developments especially ones this size as councillors roll their eyes and patronise anyone who asks why rhe road network isn’t being improved or any services being provided or why only 1 parking space for a 4 bed house is being supplied or why the roads on the deveoplent are narrow or why, if sustainability is a serious thing, why in the name of all that is holy are solar panels not being put on every single building as standard. Or where all the kids living in these shitholes are meant to be educated, ir where these people are going to see a doctor. All the usual, as the wankers pull sad faces and say "there's a housing crisis, we need these developments" as if I just landed on planet earth that morning. Then the c***s will send me another letter saying my council tax is increasing by the maximum they are able to increase it by. 
  • LargeAddick
    LargeAddick Posts: 32,757
    edited November 7
    Carter said:
    I wish you all the best with that @JohnBoyUK. Each morning and evening I get to see the mess being made of what was once a gorgeous green chunk of land now being turned into a modern slum estate for 800 plus houses. No infrastructure improvement for these 800 extra dwelling with another 1200 to follow ensuring there is no green land left in Medway. That had next to no support apart from delusional muppets who think developers have any interest in providing affordable housing and not selling premium rate, shit-builds to anyone stupid enough to get ticked up to live in them. 

    All bets are off now for rationally opposing these developments especially ones this size as councillors roll their eyes and patronise anyone who asks why rhe road network isn’t being improved or any services being provided or why only 1 parking space for a 4 bed house is being supplied or why the roads on the deveoplent are narrow or why, if sustainability is a serious thing, why in the name of all that is holy are solar panels not being put on every single building as standard. Or where all the kids living in these shitholes are meant to be educated, ir where these people are going to see a doctor. All the usual, as the wankers pull sad faces and say "there's a housing crisis, we need these developments" as if I just landed on planet earth that morning. Then the c***s will send me another letter saying my council tax is increasing by the maximum they are able to increase it by. 
    All spot on. Solar panels should be standard on all new builds. Anything will get passed these days as the Government is desperate for new housing so they don’t break another election pledge. And the lack of associated infrastructure upgrade is both ridiculous but expected.

    We fought a new development in our village of 55 homes and one reason was because the local water supply couldn’t cope. Two years after completion they are still not for sale because  ……… lack of sufficient water pressure for water to the homes. And then, and you couldn’t make this up, they fitted gas central heating to all the houses with gas boilers. One problem, there is no gas supply to our village. So they had to rip them all out and replace them with oil fired boilers. Then, for a reason no one knows yet, they had to knock down one house completely.

    The company that built them then went bust and they are now looking to sell them to a housing corporation.
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,894
    JohnBoyUK said:
    This seems like the best place to raise this...

    A lovely area in the London Borough of Bromley, Aperfield Green and Strawberry Fields, just south east of Biggin Hill, proper Green Belt is now under threat from developers who are scoping opinion to build 650 houses in the area.

    If you're against the development on Green Belt, we really could do with as many oppose comments on this document as we can get.

    https://planningaccess.bromley.gov.uk/pr/s/detail/a0lTv000002TjgXIAS?c__r=Arcus_BE_Public_Register&fbclid=IwY2xjawN6so5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlUE9xWGI2NVQxQUljV1Jqc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuxq9PBtPpmb3-Tkuwb6OnochdiINiBw9Og6-oKJgNqpYIP1yHpTZTPaagcx_aem_CNtvGA6cZD3ZSpfU0I9C8Q

    I attended the Action Group meeting on Wednesday night and there was a massive turn out, all of whom oppose the development.

    We recently moved between Biggin Hill and Westerham to enjoy the benefits of the Green Belt and Village life yet it looks like formal planning will be sought once the scoping is completed.

    If you can spare a couple of minutes, please sign and oppose.

    Much love
    JB x
    Sorry but you wont get me opposing it and I live in Bromley. We need houses to be built....and millions of them. This is why houses never get built. Too many NIMBY's around. 

  • BigRedEvil
    BigRedEvil Posts: 11,096
    We need houses, can't keep building flats 
  • golfaddick
    golfaddick Posts: 33,894
    We need houses, can't keep building flats 
    This.

    It's funny that all the people opposing new housing live in nice semi's or detached properties in the countryside. None live on the 9th floor of a council block in Hackney. 

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  • addix
    addix Posts: 1,192
    JohnBoyUK said:
    This seems like the best place to raise this...

    A lovely area in the London Borough of Bromley, Aperfield Green and Strawberry Fields, just south east of Biggin Hill, proper Green Belt is now under threat from developers who are scoping opinion to build 650 houses in the area.

    If you're against the development on Green Belt, we really could do with as many oppose comments on this document as we can get.

    https://planningaccess.bromley.gov.uk/pr/s/detail/a0lTv000002TjgXIAS?c__r=Arcus_BE_Public_Register&fbclid=IwY2xjawN6so5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlUE9xWGI2NVQxQUljV1Jqc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuxq9PBtPpmb3-Tkuwb6OnochdiINiBw9Og6-oKJgNqpYIP1yHpTZTPaagcx_aem_CNtvGA6cZD3ZSpfU0I9C8Q

    I attended the Action Group meeting on Wednesday night and there was a massive turn out, all of whom oppose the development.

    We recently moved between Biggin Hill and Westerham to enjoy the benefits of the Green Belt and Village life yet it looks like formal planning will be sought once the scoping is completed.

    If you can spare a couple of minutes, please sign and oppose.

    Much love
    JB x

    Good luck with the campaign @johnboyuk

    Another area of Bromley being eyed for development (and it looks like 2000 homes) is around Bromley FC's ground, Norman Park and, what was, Hayes Farm (before that was turned into housing). https://keepbromleygreen.uk/ 

    One that's been put through already is the development of the Blenheim Centre in Penge.  Replacing the multistorey car park and shops with 230 homes, a couple of shops with just 24 commercial parking spaces, but over 400 cycle spaces in total.  The fire brigade raised concerns with the development due to one 6 storey building only having a single staircase but the mayor doesn't seem too interested to intervene.  I know Iceland are due to return to one of the retail units and maybe Poundland will take up one of the others given their store across the road burned down a couple of weeks ago.

    As with so many of these big developments, it's the lack of everything else that's needed when a concentrated location grows by 1000+ inhabitants that always seems to be overlooked.
  • Carter
    Carter Posts: 14,301
    And how many of these semi-rural new builds do you think will go to anyone in that position?

    A few might go to people who own the 9th floor property in the newly gentrified Hackney, who have decided to cash in and buy somewhere in Medway for cash.

    I don't disagree that homes need to be built but not be under any illusion that developers do anything to help that cause and only play lip service. 

    The government could have supported housing associations build affordable housing at pace a long time ago and decided not to. New build estates in Westerham, Bromley, Biggin Hill even Lordswood arent going to help anyone struggling to get on the ladder 
  • gringo
    gringo Posts: 651
    edited November 7
    JohnBoyUK said:
    This seems like the best place to raise this...

    A lovely area in the London Borough of Bromley, Aperfield Green and Strawberry Fields, just south east of Biggin Hill, proper Green Belt is now under threat from developers who are scoping opinion to build 650 houses in the area.

    If you're against the development on Green Belt, we really could do with as many oppose comments on this document as we can get.

    https://planningaccess.bromley.gov.uk/pr/s/detail/a0lTv000002TjgXIAS?c__r=Arcus_BE_Public_Register&fbclid=IwY2xjawN6so5leHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFlUE9xWGI2NVQxQUljV1Jqc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHuxq9PBtPpmb3-Tkuwb6OnochdiINiBw9Og6-oKJgNqpYIP1yHpTZTPaagcx_aem_CNtvGA6cZD3ZSpfU0I9C8Q

    I attended the Action Group meeting on Wednesday night and there was a massive turn out, all of whom oppose the development.

    We recently moved between Biggin Hill and Westerham to enjoy the benefits of the Green Belt and Village life yet it looks like formal planning will be sought once the scoping is completed.

    If you can spare a couple of minutes, please sign and oppose.

    Much love
    JB x
    Sorry but you wont get me opposing it and I live in Bromley. We need houses to be built....and millions of them. This is why houses never get built. Too many NIMBY's around. 

    The ones they are building on the A20 roundabout is on a golf course, how do you like those apples? no objection to building more homes but they need to be more sympathetic to their environment, with adequate infrastructure (sewage, water, transport, roads, doctors etc), built to a decent standard, with adequate parking and green spaces, and not just a huge number of little boxes that are a future sink estate in the making, for the maximum profit to the developer.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    edited November 7
    Sure, there's a housing crisis.

    But all over the country, houses are being built in huge numbers to satisfy the insatiable quest for mega profits of huge development companies and their passive shareholders.

    How many of these houses are 'affordable' or even for rent?

    Answer: only a tiny percentage.

    It seems that most new houses are being built for people who already have one.

    And the housing crisis continues to grow.






  • Charlton and on
    Charlton and on Posts: 990
    edited November 7
    Oggy Red said:
    Sure, there's a housing crisis.

    But all over the country, houses are being built in huge numbers to satisfy the insatiable quest for mega profits of huge development companies and their passive shareholders.

    How many of these houses are 'affordable' or even for rent?

    Answer: only a tiny percentage.

    It seems that most new houses are being built for people who already have one.

    And the housing crisis continues to grow.






    I live in a four bed new build. I vacated a three bed terrace to buy it. The person who bought from me previously lived in a two bed flat. 

    You get the gist.

    If only one size or type of house is built, it wouldn't alleviate any housing pressure.

    Let's not forget, it was all green belt one and everyone has to live somewhere. Councils extract payments for infrastructure when planning is granted, the fault squarely lays with them if it's lacking.
  • Oggy Red
    Oggy Red Posts: 44,982
    Oggy Red said:
    Sure, there's a housing crisis.

    But all over the country, houses are being built in huge numbers to satisfy the insatiable quest for mega profits of huge development companies and their passive shareholders.

    How many of these houses are 'affordable' or even for rent?

    Answer: only a tiny percentage.

    It seems that most new houses are being built for people who already have one.

    And the housing crisis continues to grow.






    I live in a four bed new build. I vacated a three bed terrace to buy it. The person who bought from me previously lived in a two bed flat. 

    You get the gist.

    If only one size or type of house is built, it wouldn't alleviate any housing pressure.

    Let's not forget, it was all green belt one and everyone has to live somewhere. Councils extract payments for infrastructure when planning is granted, the fault squarely lays with them if it's lacking.
    Yes, of course. 
    You already had a home which you upgraded.

    But you were not part of this housing crisis.

    Anyway, there are too many aspects of this to go into right now.



  • Hex
    Hex Posts: 1,908
    Outline permission has yet to be applied for but 750 properties are planned for the green belt land between Meopham and Sole Street with further smaller developments planned around Meopham.  The 750 properties will be on land currently being farmed and across the railway line from what will inevitably become a large traveller development once the government inspector has finished - ‘their children are settled in school’ - yes, in Dartford !!!
  • Oggy Red said:
    Sure, there's a housing crisis.

    But all over the country, houses are being built in huge numbers to satisfy the insatiable quest for mega profits of huge development companies and their passive shareholders.

    How many of these houses are 'affordable' or even for rent?

    Answer: only a tiny percentage.

    It seems that most new houses are being built for people who already have one.

    And the housing crisis continues to grow.

    Housing starts in London have dropped significantly, with Q1 2025 seeing only 3,248 starts, a 59% drop from the previous year. At this rate, London is projected to have around 5,000 starts for the entirety of 2025. This is the lowest quarterly rate since the 2009 financial crisis and is a fraction of the number needed to meet housing targets. 

    It is a similar story across the entire UK as increases in building costs and interest rates and salaries has meant many development sites have become unviable in recent years, especially given flat House prices, the Labour Governments expectations on affordable requirements for developments and the various other taxes.on developers in the firm of CIL and S106 payments.
  • Jints
    Jints Posts: 3,512
    Oggy Red said:
    Sure, there's a housing crisis.

    But all over the country, houses are being built in huge numbers to satisfy the insatiable quest for mega profits of huge development companies and their passive shareholders.

    How many of these houses are 'affordable' or even for rent?

    Answer: only a tiny percentage.

    It seems that most new houses are being built for people who already have one.

    And the housing crisis continues to grow.






    Hardly any of this is true. Very little housing is being built because developers simply can't make any money from them. Big developers are either pulling out of the UK (e.g. Lendlease) or switching to other forms of development like logistics, life sciences and data centres. 

    A decent percentage of the houses that are being built are either for rent (lots of companies now specialise in that sector e.g Grainger, Greycoat) or are affordable. Not the majority but not a tiny percentage.


  • CPRE's Sevenoaks branch has contacted town and parish councils in the district about the new grey belt policy, which is causing a great deal of concern.

    CPRE Sevenoaks are supporting the petition to urge the government to rethink the grey belt policy, and encouraging residents to sign and support the petition which this group may find interesting.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/725558