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  • Jamal Musiala who is a half english, half german attacking midfielder and has played for England U17s, is on the Bayern bench tonight. He's not 18 until February.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,288
    Bundesliga today

    1 game has 5 goals
    2 games have 4 goals
    1 game has 2 goals
    1 game has 0 goals


    Lets have a guess which one @ForeverAddickted is watching 🤣🤣
    Haha I watched the Dortmund game... I thought there was a goal earlier than the death though as saw one scored just before I went for my run
  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,756
    This weekend so far - 5 away wins and one draw. Yes a lot of these were favourites (though two teams won at 11/4 and 5/2 respectively) but these away sides have to play at home every other week and their so called favouritism is simply not evidenced by their home form

    Since the Bundesliga resumed we have had:

    Home Wins - 10
    Draws -15 
    Away Wins - 27

    If we take out the home games for Bayern and Dortmund this becomes:

    Home Wins - 6
    Draws -15 
    Away Wins - 26

    That is absolutely staggering - excluding the top two, the home side has only won 13% of games (6 out of 47) since the re-start. Once again, excluding those two sides, the home team won 40% of matches (79 from 199) before the break.

    Even including all the teams in the League only 19% (10 out of 52) of games post break have been home wins as compared to 43% before the break (97 out of 224)

    It will be very interesting to see if this is replicated in the Premier League but even more so in the Championship where the gap between the top and bottom sides is much narrower.  
  • EastStand
    EastStand Posts: 4,109
    Wtf was that.
  • Chris_from_Sidcup
    Chris_from_Sidcup Posts: 35,987
    edited June 2020
    Bayern even with half their first team missing still manage to beat 4th placed Monchengladbach. 1 more win needed for yet another title.
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Bayern even with half their first team missing still manage to beat 4th placed Leverkusen. 1 more win needed for yet another title.
    Cor they done well I watched them beat Monchengladbach but they also beat Leverkusen jesus 🤣🤣😉

    Leverkusen are gonna be knackered against Schalke tomorrow 
  • SDAddick
    SDAddick Posts: 14,467
    Was great seeing an Uwe Rosler side playing in the top flight somewhere. Dussesdorf were...aggressive yesterday. Rosler nearly got booked himself. That said, I do rate him more highly than most and think he's a decent manager. Think he'll end up like a Felix Magath-type hardman firefighter. 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    edited June 2020
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
    Went to Mainz v Schalke last season, Mainz won 3-0 and was a great game and day.

    Mateta scored that day when he came off the bench, was a handful. In fact, he done well last season scoring 14 goals. Just not really done it this season and that seems to be what has cost them. 
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Also Moussa Niakhate reminds me so much of Naby Sarr it’s unreal. Both tall, left footed centre backs who are technically very good on the ball.

    Mainz also played the diamond last season.
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  • Addick Addict
    Addick Addict Posts: 39,756
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
    To be fair if you have no goalscorer AND a defence that is equally bad, that is probably the definition of being a relegation candidate
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
    To be fair if you have no goalscorer AND a defence that is equally bad, that is probably the definition of being a relegation candidate
    Apart from the Leipzig game, they’ve created so many chances since the restart yet not taken them. What I meant by equally bad is they can defend well yet make such sloppy mistakes, conceding after 44 seconds today for example. 1 slip up and 8 wasted chances seems to be their downfall.
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Sage said:
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
    Went to Mainz v Schalke last season, Mainz won 3-0 and was a great game and day.

    Mateta scored that day when he came off the bench, was a handful. In fact, he done well last season scoring 14 goals. Just not really done it this season and that seems to be what has cost them. 
    What was the town like? I know it’s a ‘carnival town’. 

    Watched all their games since the restart so if I was go and do a game in Germany it would be in Mainz.
  • Sage
    Sage Posts: 7,277
    Sage said:
    If Mainz had a goalscorer they’d be clear of the relegation zone, even tho their defence is equally bad.

    Latze, Quaison and Oztunali link up well with Mateta, but he just cannot finish. 
    Went to Mainz v Schalke last season, Mainz won 3-0 and was a great game and day.

    Mateta scored that day when he came off the bench, was a handful. In fact, he done well last season scoring 14 goals. Just not really done it this season and that seems to be what has cost them. 
    What was the town like? I know it’s a ‘carnival town’. 

    Watched all their games since the restart so if I was go and do a game in Germany it would be in Mainz.
    We stayed in Frankfurt but jumped on the train to Mainz. Big rivalry, more than people probably think

    Their ground is a way off the main road, you have to walk for around 5 minutes or so to get to it. There is a shuttle that takes the supporters to and from the ground and the station, all transport was included in the match ticket too.

    The town around the station was very similar to what you might find here in England, maybe somewhere more up north. Supporters mixed that day and were very good with each other. The police also were very good and you saw a lot of people laughing and joking with them.

    Inside the ground, you have to put all bags into a cloakroom and it’s all very open, but if you want to go to the toilet you need your match ticket to be allowed back into the stands, even though it’s only place you could have just come from. I stood behind the goal where the supporters have a platform with a microphone and huge flags to create the atmosphere. They sing You’ll Never Walk Alone, in English, before the game.

    Very much recommend going. This is a pano picture I took when I first walked out.


  • Did anyone see the very odd way the ref ended the Mainz v Augsburg game?
  • oohaahmortimer
    oohaahmortimer Posts: 34,143
    I can just see ValleyGary booming out You’ll Never Walk Alone plastic scouser that he is 
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    I can just see ValleyGary booming out You’ll Never Walk Alone plastic scouser that he is 
    As soon as I read they sing that my heart sunk. 

    I’ll stick with the goosebumps of C....A.....F.....C...
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Bayern Munich are champions 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Paderbon relegated as well
  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,970
    Mainz currently winning 2-0 away at Dortmund.

    Should be enough to keep them up.
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  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Mainz currently winning 2-0 away at Dortmund.

    Should be enough to keep them up.
    Makes the next game interesting definitely.

    Werder Bremen need to win the last 2 and hope that Mainz lose the last 2.

    They also need to overturn an 8 goal deficit. 

    Next game is Mainz v Werder Bremen
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Also with Stuggart winning today they have now moved ahead of Hamburg with 2 games to go.

    So todays results have massively increased the likelihood of Bremen v Hamburg in the relegation/promotion play off

    What a massive game between those 2 that would be
  • Fortuna Dusseldorf have 2 winnable games remaining, Augsburg at home then Union Berlin away so they have a good chance of staying above Bremen.
  • Also saw that after winning last night, Bayern's reserve side are now top of the 3rd tier. Just shows how strong Bayern are when their kids are top of a division that features sides like Duisburg, Ingolstadt (who were in the Bundesliga 3 years ago) and Kaiserslautern.
  • johnnybev1987
    johnnybev1987 Posts: 11,410
    Leipzig cost me some wonga lol 2-0 up i thought pretty much done was a freebet and the other team scored 87th and 92nd minute
  • Timo Werner to Chelsea for 47.5m in todays market is an absolute bargain.

    Lampard is building a very good young side there. 
  • stackitsteve
    stackitsteve Posts: 12,102
    Timo Werner to Chelsea for 47.5m in todays market is an absolute bargain.

    Lampard is building a very good young side there. 
    Incredible signing at that price. Chelsea making some very good moves.
  • Timo Werner to Chelsea for 47.5m in todays market is an absolute bargain.

    Lampard is building a very good young side there. 
    Incredible signing at that price. Chelsea making some very good moves.
    Indeed. Werner and Ziyech in for a total of around 80m to replace Willian and Pedro is great business. 

    Chelsea are also said to be making a move for Kai Havertz too as the other big players for him are out of the running this summer. Real Madrid can't afford him as they're lining up a huge move for Mbappe next year and they need to sell players and Bayern have prioritised Leroy Sane and also can't afford him. 
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Bremen losing massive game against Mainz

    Puts them in big big trouble
  • paulie8290
    paulie8290 Posts: 23,344
    Leverkusen losing as well a game that if they win they have a massive chance of Champions League next season