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  • Redvaliant
    Redvaliant Posts: 515
    I prefer the Paul Young version.
  • thai malaysia addick
    thai malaysia addick Posts: 18,360
    Saw Joy Division play it live three times. Unbeatable.
  • Friend Or Defoe
    Friend Or Defoe Posts: 18,111
    What about Say Hello To Heaven?

    https://youtu.be/SXOzGY46In0
  • EveshamAddick
    EveshamAddick Posts: 7,024
    This is the real cover of the song from Susanna and the Magic Orchestra:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHhVydgvuAc
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    Henry Irving said:
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
    If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,261
    Covered End said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
    If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
    Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.

    Radio 6 too samey, radio 2, I'm not that old.
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Stick to Abba :-)
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    Henry Irving said:
    Covered End said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
    If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
    Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.

    Radio 6 too samey, radio 2, I'm not that old.
    I prefer Absolute or Radio X.
    Although generally listen to my own stuff on you tube.
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,279
    edited May 2020
    EveshamAddick said:
    This is the real cover of the song from Susanna and the Magic Orchestra:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHhVydgvuAc
    You might like this The Swans (Jarboe) Black version
           https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AMwNYyXDn1E
  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,279
    The Swans Red Version 
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvHXou9P-Qk

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  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,924
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
  • church-lane
    church-lane Posts: 935
    thai malaysia addick said:
    Saw Joy Division play it live three times. Unbeatable.


    I saw them twice - Apparently it's sacrilege to say it, but one of the few bands I preferred recorded to live performance. In my opinion both albums and all their singles were so well produced that they could never be reproduced effectively live. That said Love Will Tear Us Apart sounded great live.
  • Henry Irving
    Henry Irving Posts: 85,261
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
    Can't beat the Pat Boone version.

    It really is so bad nothing can beat it.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,901
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
    Or Frank Sinatra fucking about with this classic .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcIxxP_pOSc

    "You stick around, Jack ....."
  • killerandflash
    killerandflash Posts: 69,924
    Off_it said:
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
    Or Frank Sinatra fucking about with this classic .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcIxxP_pOSc

    "You stick around, Jack ....."
    If the Sex Pistols can do My Way, perhaps Frank should have covered Anarchy in the UK
  • LennyLowrent
    LennyLowrent Posts: 2,705
    Such an inventive composition...
    For some reason it brings back to me the movie
    'Close Encounters of the Third Kind'.
    Why it never had a sequel 
  • lordromford
    lordromford Posts: 7,812
    Covered End said:
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Stick to Abba :-)
      :D
    I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned.
    “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*”
    My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less.
    🙂



    *I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 34,030
    killerandflash said:
    Off_it said:
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
    Or Frank Sinatra fucking about with this classic .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcIxxP_pOSc

    "You stick around, Jack ....."
    If the Sex Pistols can do My Way, perhaps Frank should have covered Anarchy in the UK
    Ahhh Sid and My Way ... I quite enjoyed that one, especially the video
  • rananegra
    rananegra Posts: 3,694
    Joy Division. NP cover was better than I was expecting. One of those songs I don't think people should cover (yes Paul Young,looking at you). 
    I only catch Robert Elms show occasionally but I do like it. He's a fan of music and so is his audience. I've discovered quite a few things from catching it - he's not afraid to play stuff wider than most mainstream radio presenters, mixing up soul, reggae, country and rock 'n' roll. A lot of the audience are ageing soul boys who didn't like Joy Division in 1981, so I'm not at all surprised that NP's version was more popular. 
  • Stig
    Stig Posts: 29,053
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Jeez, even that song title sounds sinister now in the light of the Harris revelations.

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  • charltonbob
    charltonbob Posts: 8,279
    edited May 2020
    Stig said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Jeez, even that song title sounds sinister now in the light of the Harris revelations.
    What do you make of "Two little boys" then ?
  • JaShea99
    JaShea99 Posts: 5,466
    lordromford said:
    Covered End said:
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Stick to Abba :-)
      :D
    I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned.
    “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*”
    My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less.
    🙂



    *I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
    Some of this is true about people needing to be told what and what not to like. But surely you can understand why many people hate bands like Abba and don’t need to be told that?
  • McBobbin
    McBobbin Posts: 12,052
    stonemuse said:
    killerandflash said:
    Off_it said:
    killerandflash said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Followed by Katie Melua vs Litttle Richard doing Tutti Frutti  :D
    Or Frank Sinatra fucking about with this classic .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcIxxP_pOSc

    "You stick around, Jack ....."
    If the Sex Pistols can do My Way, perhaps Frank should have covered Anarchy in the UK
    Ahhh Sid and My Way ... I quite enjoyed that one, especially the video
    Don't remember where, but first I saw that video was in a museum, and only saw the shooting bit. Though it was real for ages! Vicious by nature!

    Back to covers, Rolf Harris' Stairway to Heaven wasn't great, but his Bohemian rhapsody was definitive:

    https://youtu.be/8m0r6V9aXEY
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,819
    charltonbob said:
    Stig said:
    Henry Irving said:
    So I think Joy Division just about edged that vote.

    Next up Led Zeppelin v Rolf Harris doing Stairway to Heaven 🤔
    Jeez, even that song title sounds sinister now in the light of the Harris revelations.
    What do you make of "Two little boys" then ?
    I reckon they’ve got two little toys mate. 
  • Covered End
    Covered End Posts: 52,040
    lordromford said:
    Covered End said:
    lordromford said:
    Friend Or Defoe said:
    charltonbob said:
    Henry Irving said:
    PS and the name Joy Division is very dodgy too.
    Maybe they chose that name to shock, that's what youngsters do :smile: like the ex royal bloke dressing in an SS uniform for a party. Having said that I doubt the general public had the faintest idea on Joy Division
    They used to attract a dodgy crowd, likewise when they were called Warsaw. 

    Another vote for Joy Division, seems only the OP doesn't like them.
    Not Joy Division for me. I think it’s dreadful.
    Ive always found music snobs get really aggressively upset when someone says they don’t like this song. “You don’t have any taste” “You don’t know music” etc. Piss off. I have my own opinion. I’ve never seen what’s supposed to be so good about it. There’s some interesting stuff in there, but it’s overshadowed by the dreary singing and other noises. Maybe I’m not appreciating some subtle nuances, but I don’t care, I still think it’s shit. And I’m pretty sure a lot of people think it’s good because they think they ‘should’ think it’s good.

    Having said all that, if you like it - good for you.
    😎👍🏼
    Stick to Abba :-)
      :D
    I know you’re making a joke, but this is a (very mild) version of the typical music snob reactions mentioned.
    “You must have no taste, I bet you like Abba/Take That/Spice Girls/*Any band that popular opinion tells me is shit although I secretly like some of their stuff but can’t admit it*”
    My music tastes are diverse. I like what I find enjoyable. I don’t rate Joy Division much. It’s just a different view to yours, nothing more, nothing less.
    🙂



    *I’m not saying this bit is you, by the way. I just suspect it’s true for a lot of people.
    To be fair it probably is me, but having said that I'm generally seen as the weirdo liking Indie music & rock & previously punk.

    If you talk to the average person about Stone Roses or The Smiths they wouldn't have a clue, but Abba or Take That would be much more well known.
  • LawrieAbrahams
    LawrieAbrahams Posts: 3,780
    Joy Division.

    That cover version is awful.
  • Alwaysneil
    Alwaysneil Posts: 13,819
    edited May 2020
    Jesus wept I hadn’t summoned up the energy to listen to it before it truly is dire.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,901
    Alwaysneil said:
    Jesus wept I hadn’t summoned up the energy to listen to it before it truly is dire.
    Same here. Just listened.

    As I suspected though, it's just another in a long line of songs that have been "reinvented" by slowing and stripping them down and putting a dire, weak (normally female), vocal over the top that all sounds a bit insipid whilst trying to sound "vulnerable". Totally contrived. Totally shit.
  • Off_it
    Off_it Posts: 28,901
    Check out these absolute abortions

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yb3XAP0c8WU
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CowwMR1hDPM
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mer6X7nOY_o
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2BY21T52oFw

  • Algarveaddick
    Algarveaddick Posts: 21,168
    Henry Irving said:
    Covered End said:
    Henry Irving said:
    Unsurprising response but the new version won on Radio London which did shock me.

    Great chorus but on the original the drum sound is horrible, the singers voice is buried in the mix, not that I like his voice, and you can't hear the words.

    And the cover really isn't Waitrose Xmas.  There's more to it than that. 
    If you love music you're not generally going to be listening to Radio London (you apart).
    Disagree. Robert Elms plays some great and varied stuff. And some jazz but you can't have everything.

    Radio 6 too samey, radio 2, I'm not that old.
    Oh yes you are... 

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