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  • se9addick
    se9addick Posts: 32,059
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Isnt Juventus' ground only 41,500 (staggering for a club of their size) because attendances have been dropping quite a bit in Italian Football over recent years?

    i.e. they've deliberately built a smaller stadium so there arent so many empty seats
    I think it was also to maximise revenue from corporate seats, the old Delle Alpi was a bit ramshackle. 
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Todds_right_hook said:
    North Lower Neil said:
    Pegguy Arphexad only ever played 39 games despite having a 16 year long career.
    21 for Leicester 
    And managed to pick of 7 winners medals (6 at Liverpool and 1 at Leicester)
  • Mrs. Brightside
    Mrs. Brightside Posts: 127
    George Best and Jeff Astle both played for Dunstable Town
  • randy andy
    randy andy Posts: 5,457
    edited April 2020
    se9addick said:
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Isnt Juventus' ground only 41,500 (staggering for a club of their size) because attendances have been dropping quite a bit in Italian Football over recent years?

    i.e. they've deliberately built a smaller stadium so there arent so many empty seats
    I think it was also to maximise revenue from corporate seats, the old Delle Alpi was a bit ramshackle. 
    Plus the fans hated it , so never attended in large numbers. Look at any old footage, it was always deserted. They campaigned for years to get the club to move grounds.

    The Stadio Della Alpi has a capacity of 69,000, yet the best average attendance was in their 2nd season there (91/92) when they got just over 51k. By the time it closed it was less than half full. Looking at their attendances over the last 50 years it's hard to argue they ever needed a stadium that big. The new stadium hold just over 41k, which is probably about 10k too small, but will be filled most of the time at least.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,882
    Addick90 said:
    happyvalley said:
    MrOneLung said:
    St Johns wood
    Yes that's the one.
    One tube station doesn’t contain any of the letters from coronavirus in it
    this took me ages and I bloody go through this station on my way home - Temple
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,882
    MrOneLung said:
    Addick90 said:
    happyvalley said:
    MrOneLung said:
    St Johns wood
    Yes that's the one.
    One tube station doesn’t contain any of the letters from coronavirus in it
    this took me ages and I bloody go through this station on my way home - Temple
    Pre-Lockdown obviously
  • milo
    milo Posts: 388
    Addick90 said:
    Phil Neville made more premier league appearances than gary Neville 

    Behind San Siro and stadio olimpico, the third biggest Stadium in Italy belongs to Bari.

    two random unrelated facts which I learned from my quiz tonight 


    and Bari have only ever filled the stadium once in their history in 2014 for a Serie B playoff match (having said that 58,000 for a second division game is pretty good).

  • ReeCAFC15
    ReeCAFC15 Posts: 145
    In 1993/94 season, AC Milan won Serie A scoring just 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season Udinese and Atalanta were both relegated whilst scoring 35 goals each.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,975
    ReeCAFC15 said:
    In 1993/94 season, AC Milan won Serie A scoring just 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season Udinese and Atalanta were both relegated whilst scoring 35 goals each.
    If you've got Panucci, Baresi, Costacurta and Maldini in defence, with Desailly in front of them, one goal is normally a 1-0 win.
  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,239
    ReeCAFC15 said:
    In 1993/94 season, AC Milan won Serie A scoring just 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season Udinese and Atalanta were both relegated whilst scoring 35 goals each.
    How many did they concede?

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  • ValleyGary
    ValleyGary Posts: 37,995
    ReeCAFC15 said:
    In 1993/94 season, AC Milan won Serie A scoring just 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season Udinese and Atalanta were both relegated whilst scoring 35 goals each.
    I remember seeing that league table before. There were ALOT of draws that season. I do recall watching Football Italia in the 90’s and thinking these teams love a draw.
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,975
    edited April 2020
    iaitch said:
    ReeCAFC15 said:
    In 1993/94 season, AC Milan won Serie A scoring just 36 goals in 34 games. In the same season Udinese and Atalanta were both relegated whilst scoring 35 goals each.
    How many did they concede?
    15.

    They only conceded 6 goals away all years, a lot of 0-0s and 1-0 wins away.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited April 2020
    Alan Curbishley still hasn't been "former Charlton manager" as long as he was Charlton manager!

    Seems like a life time ago he left. 
  • FSLN1
    FSLN1 Posts: 263
    At the age of 16 Peter Beardsley went to Gillingham for a week's trial and was released from it after three days.
  • colthe3rd
    colthe3rd Posts: 8,486
    FSLN1 said:
    At the age of 16 Peter Beardsley went to Gillingham for a week's trial and was released from it after three days.
    Reminds me of this one. 2 players named Warren have played for Newcastle.

    Warren Barton and Warren Beardsley an ugly bastard.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
  • Covered_End_Lad
    Covered_End_Lad Posts: 5,728
    In last nights Man City squad the only player with a champions league winners medal was Scott Carson.
  • Spankie
    Spankie Posts: 1,537
    The only undefeated side in the 2010 World Cup was New Zealand
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,598
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    Are there rumours that Moyes might be off then?
  • Six-a-bag-of-nuts
    Six-a-bag-of-nuts Posts: 8,130
    ForeverAddickted said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    Are there rumours that Moyes might be off then?
    He definitely doesn't smell right.
    All those years under the Misty Mountains living on raw fish with only his precious for company

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  • Dave Rudd
    Dave Rudd Posts: 2,867
    May have done this one way back in the earlier days of this thread … but I find it quite interesting, so what the hell ...

    Cambridge United's record home attendance at the Abbey Stadium (current capacity 8,127) was for a friendly.  14,000 against Chelsea in May 1970.
  • MrOneLung
    MrOneLung Posts: 26,882
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    is this Premier League or in the league ever ?
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2020
    MrOneLung said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    is this Premier League or in the league ever ?
    I "think" in the league ever.  It helps when 2 of thier managers never managed anyone as "former Manchester United managers"

    The 2 I thought might have done were Dave Sexton and Tommy Doc.  But I don't think they ever did. 
  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,975
    Cafc43v3r said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    is this Premier League or in the league ever ?
    I "think" in the league ever.  It helps when 2 of thier managers never managed anyone as "former Manchester United managers"

    The 2 I thought might have done were Dave Sexton and Tommy Doc.  But I don't think they ever did. 
    Or Tommy Doherty and Big Ron.

    Though thinking about it, they might have been more likely to meet before Big Ron was at United rather than after.
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    North Lower Neil said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    MrOneLung said:
    Cafc43v3r said:
    Westham v Spurs is the 1st time 2 former Manchester United managers have ever met in the league.   Assuming one doesn't walk today. 
    is this Premier League or in the league ever ?
    I "think" in the league ever.  It helps when 2 of thier managers never managed anyone as "former Manchester United managers"

    The 2 I thought might have done were Dave Sexton and Tommy Doc.  But I don't think they ever did. 
    Or Tommy Doherty and Big Ron.

    Though thinking about it, they might have been more likely to meet before Big Ron was at United rather than after.
    Ron managed against the Doc and Sexton I think, but before Ron was united manager.  Obviously tonight isn't the 1st time Jose has managed against Moyes either. 
  • Powell Is Pleasant
    Powell Is Pleasant Posts: 1,443
    Robin Van Persie was NOT the defining factor that saw Man Utd take the Premier League back from Man City in 2013. It's talked about that Fergie was so annoyed about losing the title on goal difference in 2012, that he went all out to make sure it didn't happen the following season. Everyone seems to remember it that way, but it didn't happen like that:

    In 2012, Man Utd finished on 89 points and scored 89 goals.
    In 2013, Man Utd finished on 89 points and scored 86 goals.
    Their goal difference went from +56 to +43.

    Van Persie was their top scorer, I'm not saying his goals didn't heavily contribute to them winning the title. But they did worse than the year before.
    The defining factor that saw them regain the title, was the fact that Man City went from 89 points to 78 points.
  • Big William
    Big William Posts: 3,846
    A West Ham fan told me that Mark Noble is their longest serving player, no surprise there, but he has been since he was 20.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    Big William said:
    A West Ham fan told me that Mark Noble is their longest serving player, no surprise there, but he has been since he was 20.
    Bit longer than that - he was playing for their reserves at 15. 
  • Cafc43v3r
    Cafc43v3r Posts: 21,600
    edited June 2020
    Big William said:
    A West Ham fan told me that Mark Noble is their longest serving player, no surprise there, but he has been since he was 20.
    Mark Noble has been westham's longest serving player for nearly 15 years.

    Edited I miss read the original post, I think @ricky_otto did as well. 
  • Dazzler21
    Dazzler21 Posts: 51,421
    edited June 2020
    A Championship club has transferred ownership twice in one season and that could rise to potentially 3-4 times in a single 12 month period. Astoundingly the first 2 transfers (one in full ownership and another in change of shareholders of the holding company) could be void by the EFL and a challenge brought about by some old directors owed monies from a sale many years before.

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