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Optimism for Football's Future ? .. At least for the Premier League

Lincsaddick
Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
edited April 2020 in Other Football and Sports
Not for the first time .. is Newcastle United about to be sold to a consortium of billionaires ?
Ashley wanted £340 Million, he might let it go for a mere £300 Million ((:>) .. Whatever, the potential buyers, especially Staveley are as shrewd as they come and must have a great deal of faith in the future of English football .. OR is this a bit of a bargain landgrab while the market is somewhat depressed due to Coronavirus ?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52284645

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  • sillav nitram
    sillav nitram Posts: 10,163
    And at the other end of the scale https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52275018

    Football has got totally out of hand, the money at the top of the pyramid is absolutely ludicrous and highlights how obscene it has become.

    We pay people more to entertain us, than to save our life!
  • clive
    clive Posts: 19,443
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
  • ShootersHillGuru
    ShootersHillGuru Posts: 50,619
    I exactly know football and in particular The Premier Leagues response to this crisis ending will be.

    Devil take the hindmost.


  • iaitch
    iaitch Posts: 10,219
    Other clubs, what other clubs they will say.
  • ricky_otto
    ricky_otto Posts: 22,600
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    All very valid points. Like him or hate him, he is talking sense. 
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    ricky_otto said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    All very valid points. Like him or hate him, he is talking sense. 
    ricky_otto said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    All very valid points. Like him or hate him, he is talking sense. 

    ignore his 'palace roots' .. Jordan is a very experienced and clever businessman, he would make a terrific chairman/CEO of the EFL
  • stonemuse
    stonemuse Posts: 33,995
    Lincsaddick said:
    ricky_otto said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    All very valid points. Like him or hate him, he is talking sense. 
    ricky_otto said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    All very valid points. Like him or hate him, he is talking sense. 

    ignore his 'palace roots' .. Jordan is a very experienced and clever businessman, he would make a terrific chairman/CEO of the EFL
    That would be interesting ... but they’d never let it happen. 
  • SouthWest_Addicks
    SouthWest_Addicks Posts: 6,307
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    Agree in principle, but should be closed March to June to ensure teams are not trying to stop other teams success by buying their best players with three games to go.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    The Newcastle takeover .. the PL have gone all righteous and not before time. They are concerned that under the present plan the Saudi Public Investment Fund would own 80% of the club. Amnesty International are making a lot of noise about 'Saudi sanctioned abuses' .. I'd wager that if investigations into where the money to purchase a whole host of clubs was made public, the PL and EFL would be investigating for the next 20 years and still get nowhere
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    I hate the transfer window. Jordan's making sense here. Besides, in all the TV footage I've seen the new player always unexpectedly comes through the door, just like a normal person.
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  • North Lower Neil
    North Lower Neil Posts: 22,945
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    Agree in principle, but should be closed March to June to ensure teams are not trying to stop other teams success by buying their best players with three games to go.
    Always used to be a transfer deadline about March didn't there?


  • Sarrf_London
    Sarrf_London Posts: 523
    jimmymelrose said:
    I hate the transfer window. Jordan's making sense here. Besides, in all the TV footage I've seen the new player always unexpectedly comes through the door, just like a normal person.
    There needs to be a transfer cut off, April/May to stop clubs buying way out glory/disaster.
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Buying one's way out of glory. That sounds like Thomas Driesden in action.
  • Lincsaddick
    Lincsaddick Posts: 32,345
    edited April 2020
    North Lower Neil said:
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    Agree in principle, but should be closed March to June to ensure teams are not trying to stop other teams success by buying their best players with three games to go.
    Always used to be a transfer deadline about March didn't there?


    I'm sure the 'window' is a fairly recent innovation, recent could be 10/15 years lol

    EDIT .. just copied this from wiki ...

    The window was introduced in response to negotiations with the European Commission. The system has been used in many European leagues before being brought into compulsory effect by FIFA during the 2002–03 season.[2] English football was initially behind the plans when they were proposed in the early 1990s, in the hope that it would improve teams' stability and prevent agents from searching for deals all year around, but by the time it was eventually introduced they had to be persuaded that it would work.[3] However, the exact regulations and possible exceptions are established by each competition's governing body rather than by the national football association.[4]
  • jimmymelrose
    jimmymelrose Posts: 9,750
    Lincsaddick said:



    I'm sure the 'window' is a fairly recent innovation, recent could be 10/15 years lol

    They go back a lot further than that. The Romans had them.
  • ForeverAddickted
    ForeverAddickted Posts: 94,291
    North Lower Neil said:
    SouthWest_Addicks said:
    clive said:
    Simon Jordan's five point plan for the future,featured in todays 'Sun'.
    • Salary caps across leagues linked to a percentage of turnover — eg 50 per cent. This would reduce Premier League and Championship wage bills by £625million per year.
    • The transfer market also has to change, so clubs get their other major outlay under control. A net allowance of 20 per cent of the previous year’s turnover on transfer spend.
    • The transfer window to be abolished. It has  created a bad business market —  specifically ratcheted-up  January prices. The market should instead be open all year for clubs to trade at times when their cash flow needs it.
    • Agents should only be able to act for one party — clubs or players. They should be reduced to five per cent commission and levies of between three to five per cent placed on that commission. That would put another £15m back into  the football pyramid.
    • The PFA should be stripped of its £27m-a-year GIFT from the Premier League after their divisive and destructive behaviour in this crisis. Instead it should be given to grassroots football, funded by its own members. If players had to pay the £27m, it works out to be 0.75 per cent of their salaries, so the average Premier League player would pay just £27,000 a year.
      https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/11396800/premier-league-coronavirus-simon-jordan-plan/
    Agree in principle, but should be closed March to June to ensure teams are not trying to stop other teams success by buying their best players with three games to go.
    Always used to be a transfer deadline about March didn't there?


    End of March used to be deadline for any Transfers across a season when there wasnt a January Window and players were able to move whenever they wanted

    Then I think that time period was also applicable for any loan deals for Football League clubs until recently

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