Charlton Athletic v West Brom | FA Cup R3 | Sun 5 January | Post-match thread

We were too tentative first half and man of the match Oshilaji seemed to be holding West Brom back single handed.

Second half we were much more positive and took the game to them. We didn't create too much but there was a clear push on Davison in the air and Odoh was brought done on the edge of the box. Oh for VAR albeit Austin thought they should have had a pen at the other end.

Williams and Hemed had little impact but it was more about minutes for them.

Green looked useful and drew a good save from their keeper.

Davison was involved and was very unlucky with an overhead that hit the bar.

Odoh was busy second half, Henry not quite ready but good experience for him.

Vennings has two good feet. Weirdu, who wasn't even listed in the programme, was a physical presence but also had a couple of heavy touches when in good positions.

Sarr made some good tackles and drove forward while Philips made an incredible double save.

Disappointed to lose but to be expected. No blame on any of the players or Bowyer. Needs must.

Won't sit in the west lower again. Squeezed in to too low seats and horrendous food and toilet queues but did see Peter Varney there.

Only two league games now this month and a fortnight's break. Take them away to Dubai for some warm weather training, we can afford it now.

Henry Irving said:

We were too tentative first half and man of the match Oshilaji seemed to be holding West Brom back single handed.

Second half we were much more positive and took the game to them. We didn't create too much but there was a clear push on Davison in the air and Odoh was brought done on the edge of the box. Oh for VAR albeit Austin thought they should have had a pen at the other end.

Williams and Hemed had little impact but it was more about minutes for them.

Green looked useful and drew a good save from their keeper.

Davison was involved and was very unlucky with an overhead that hit the bar.

Odoh was busy second half, Henry not quite ready but good experience for him.

Vennings has two good feet. Weirdu, who wasn't even listed in the programme, was a physical presence but also had a couple of heavy touches when in good positions.

Sarr made some good tackles and drove forward while Philips made an incredible double save.

Disappointed to lose but to be expected. No blame on any of the players or Bowyer. Needs must.

Won't sit in the west lower again. Squeezed in to too low seats and horrendous food and toilet queues but did see Peter Varney there.

Only two league games now this month and a fortnight's break. Take them away to Dubai for some warm weather training, we can afford it now.

Very good assessment on what I witnessed. Especially on Oshilija I’m probably boring people but he deserves a bigger role, think he’s been consistent and in multiple positions. 

Oshiilaja is physically stronger than some of our other players. I would like to see him at CB or RB regularly. 

mendonca said:

Oshiilaja is physically stronger than some of our other players. I would like to see him at CB or RB regularly. 

Said a while ago he should maybe be given a go alongside Lockyer. What with Pearce's performances being below par and Sarr always likely to make an error I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. 

Phillips made an incredible save. 

Solly was rank. So so poor and slow, both mentally & physically.

Oshilaja played well & Sarr was our best attacking threat, even though he was defending. 

Vennings & Henry were ok for kids playing in a man's game.

Wiredu looks the part, but nothing came off for him today. 

Odoh put in the effort, but looked a few years too young.

Green has class, did ok & looks a cut above Leko. 

Davison puts in effort, but 95% of the time passes the ball backwards. He's no threat.

Hemed achieved 30 mins where he barely touched the ball (again).

Morgan was poorish. 

Williams looked decent, got quite stuck in and didn't appear to pick up an injury.

Typically poor cup game & fair score. 

ForeverAddickted said:

cafcfan1990 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

cafcfan1990 said:

ForeverAddickted said:

SouthLondonisRed said:

ForeverAddickted said:

SouthLondonisRed said:

How did Hemed, Williams and our new signing Green play? Did they do alright?

Hemed; Didnt get much service so pretty ineffective

Green; Needs to pass a little better but a threat

Williams; eased his way back, showed glimpses

Thanks mate.
Does Hemed look like a player he could do things when we have key players back?
Glad that I heard Williams left the pitch with no limps which is excellent news.
Good to hear also that Green sounds like a threat, hopefully the next couple games he will ease in properly and show us why we have signed him.
I'm just so happy with how the kids have played recently. We just haven't been battered and they have fought and battled every single minute they have all played.

Hemed had one chance at the death, proper snapshot out of nothing which just narrowly went over - Hopefully he's been managed a lot better after having a poor pre-season so can involved properly now

I think beyond doubt that Hemed has technical ability, certainly enough to be a decent Championship player. The concern is by the time he gets up to speed it’s already going to be March. 

Hemed is a finisher, a poacher of a Striker

It worked for Brighton when he got them into the Premier League, just need our midfielders to provide him with the right service

Agreed, but that’s the concern. Getting used to our style, movement etc all takes time. It’s January so he hasn’t got that on his side now. 

Yeah I agree in that sense

Hemed to me looks the sort of player who needs it to his feet in the box, his heading doesnt look brilliant

We're a team that cross it high into the box

Hence why I think he's struggled when he has played

At our best I'd say we try to keep crosses low, or at least we did last season. It was clear it was the way Bowyer wanted us to play.

Henry Irving said:

Odoh didn't start well but was better second half.

Some very harsh comments for a debutant who tried hard and won a dangerous free kick that might have been a pen.

Yep, if Hoof It thinks it was one of the worst performances ever I am presuming they have missed half of Roland reign...

cafcfan1990 said:

RC_CAFC said:

Talal said:

mendonca said:

Oshiilaja is physically stronger than some of our other players. I would like to see him at CB or RB regularly. 

Said a while ago he should maybe be given a go alongside Lockyer. What with Pearce's performances being below par and Sarr always likely to make an error I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. 

It’s because they like the balance of a right and left footer.

Poor management if they insist on that if the best two CBs are right footed though. 

Possibly, but Bowyer has always insisted on playing players in their correct positions though. It’s served him pretty well so far. Thought both Sarr and Oshilaja were superb today.

Just worrying that after defeat.... we get people going "Happy with That" ... well I'm not I'm pissed off bloody losing.

I will never be Happy.... with that. 

RC_CAFC said:

cafcfan1990 said:

RC_CAFC said:

Talal said:

mendonca said:

Oshiilaja is physically stronger than some of our other players. I would like to see him at CB or RB regularly. 

Said a while ago he should maybe be given a go alongside Lockyer. What with Pearce's performances being below par and Sarr always likely to make an error I'm surprised it hasn't happened yet. 

It’s because they like the balance of a right and left footer.

Poor management if they insist on that if the best two CBs are right footed though. 

Possibly, but Bowyer has always insisted on playing players in their correct positions though. It’s served him pretty well so far. Thought both Sarr and Oshilaja were superb today.

I hardly think playing two right footed CBs at CB is playing someone out of position. It has served him well and if he doesn’t rate Oshilija then that’s fair enough to an extent. But given how neither Pearce or Sarr have been particularly good of late, I think Oshilija is very unlucky not to get a chance alongside Lockyer. 

Another game where the kids have come in and given a fantastic account of themselves. Most of them not ready for regular men's football but did themselves and us proud today. Thank god for our academy. 

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

Green looked okay and thought Sarr/Oshilaja had decent games. We were not really in the game but weren't disgraced.

Odoh was shocking - far too small and lightweight to play at this level. No idea why he was left on?

Solly had a poor game.

Most of our players worked hard but nobody stood out. 

Totally unfair. Odoh never stopped trying, showed glimpses of quality and was inches away from winning a penalty with a bit of trickery. 

hoof_it_up_to_benty said:

Henry Irving said:

Odoh didn't start well but was better second half.

Some very harsh comments for a debutant who tried hard and won a dangerous free kick that might have been a pen.

He tried hard and if that's all we want from players then fair enough - he was way out of his depth and shouldn't have started. Physically he's far too small, barely touched the ball in first half and underhit most of his passes. He might be a great player at youth level but he's certainly nowhere near the level of senior football.

I'd blame whoever thought he was ready for selecting him today. 

That'll be Lee Bowyer, then.